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Fruscainte
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4596 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 17:20:44
November 20 2011 14:35 GMT
#1
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/8897662/EU-bans-claim-that-water-can-prevent-dehydration.html

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EU officials concluded that, following a three-year investigation, there was no evidence to prove the previously undisputed fact.

Producers of bottled water are now forbidden by law from making the claim and will face a two-year jail sentence if they defy the edict, which comes into force in the UK next month.

Last night, critics claimed the EU was at odds with both science and common sense. Conservative MEP Roger Helmer said: “This is stupidity writ large.

“The euro is burning, the EU is falling apart and yet here they are: highly-paid, highly-pensioned officials worrying about the obvious qualities of water and trying to deny us the right to say what is patently true
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“If ever there were an episode which demonstrates the folly of the great European project then this is it.”

NHS health guidelines state clearly that drinking water helps avoid dehydration, and that Britons should drink at least 1.2 litres per day.

The Department for Health disputed the wisdom of the new law. A spokesman said: “Of course water hydrates. While we support the EU in preventing false claims about products, we need to exercise common sense as far as possible."

German professors Dr Andreas Hahn and Dr Moritz Hagenmeyer, who advise food manufacturers on how to advertise their products, asked the European Commission if the claim could be made on labels.

They compiled what they assumed was an uncontroversial statement in order to test new laws which allow products to claim they can reduce the risk of disease, subject to EU approval.

They applied for the right to state that “regular consumption of significant amounts of water can reduce the risk of development of dehydration” as well as preventing a decrease in performance.

However, last February, the European Food Standards Authority (EFSA) refused to approve the statement.

A meeting of 21 scientists in Parma, Italy, concluded that reduced water content in the body was a symptom of dehydration and not something that drinking water could subsequently control.

Now the EFSA verdict has been turned into an EU directive which was issued on Wednesday.

Ukip MEP Paul Nuttall said the ruling made the “bendy banana law” look “positively sane”.
He said: “I had to read this four or five times before I believed it. It is a perfect example of what Brussels does best. Spend three years, with 20 separate pieces of correspondence before summoning 21 professors to Parma where they decide with great solemnity that drinking water cannot be sold as a way to combat dehydration.

“Then they make this judgment law and make it clear that if anybody dares sell water claiming that it is effective against dehydration they could get into serious legal bother.

EU regulations, which aim to uphold food standards across member states, are frequently criticized.

Rules banning bent bananas and curved cucumbers were scrapped in 2008 after causing international ridicule.

Prof Hahn, from the Institute for Food Science and Human Nutrition at Hanover Leibniz University, said the European Commission had made another mistake with its latest ruling.

“What is our reaction to the outcome? Let us put it this way: We are neither surprised nor delighted.

“The European Commission is wrong; it should have authorised the claim. That should be more than clear to anyone who has consumed water in the past, and who has not? We fear there is something wrong in the state of Europe.”

Prof Brian Ratcliffe, spokesman for the Nutrition Society, said dehydration was usually caused by a clinical condition and that one could remain adequately hydrated without drinking water.

He said: “The EU is saying that this does not reduce the risk of dehydration and that is correct.

“This claim is trying to imply that there is something special about bottled water which is not a reasonable claim.”


First the Pizza is a vegetable, and (supposedly) this?

Thoughts on this, er....edict? I don't even know what to call it, honestly.

EDIT: Let me clarify the situation. Water bottle companies want to put shit on their bottles that say that the water in the water bottles can help prevent dehydration. The EU is saying that no, Water can not prevent dehydration (or at least it isn't proven to) and therefore it is illegal to put such information on the water bottles.

EDIT 2: To remain unbiased, I'll toss this post in here too

On November 20 2011 23:53 Maenander wrote:
This is obviously not about water but about overpriced bottled water.

While I don't agree with the state patronizing its citizens, it is clear to me that the intention of this "edict" is to prevent advertising that would lead consumers to believe bottled water is somehow better than normal water for preventing dehydration.

Read the advice of "The Telegraph" on the very same subject a year ago:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/8632375/Advice-to-drink-eight-glasses-of-water-daily-nonsense.html

But suddenly when the EU makes a ruling based on a similar opinion it is of course utter bullshit. Typical british anti-EU hysteria.


Wanted to type something up like this. Basically saying that perhaps this is just stopping the companies from saying that "Only OUR water is going to stop dehydration, not anyone else's."

EDIT 3: Do know that this is a very sensationalist article, and may or may not take some things out of context.

The main point of this declaration is not that water does not prevent dehydration (which it does not necessarily all the time), but that water bottle companies can not say "OUR water stops dehydration, so drink it!"
grush57
Profile Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2582 Posts
November 20 2011 14:36 GMT
#2
What are they thinking, lol?
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zeru
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
8156 Posts
November 20 2011 14:39 GMT
#3
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zakmaa
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada525 Posts
November 20 2011 14:40 GMT
#4
This is the most absurd thing ever. Dehydration is not having enough water, obviously having water prevents not-having-enough-water...
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
November 20 2011 14:40 GMT
#5
EU bureaucracy......thank god we joined it TT
FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6182 Posts
November 20 2011 14:41 GMT
#6
it's true, clearly Beer prevent dehydration.

I just don't know what is true and what is not in the world now... Soon they will tell that to give milk to baby is wrong and they should only drink orange juice
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 20 2011 14:42 GMT
#7
think of it this way, if u have a clinical condition that results in dehydration then you might think you are good to go after drinking their specially-labelled bottled water, so you drink 3 bottles of it then dont wake up the next day

thats how im kinda seeing it?
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KoBlades
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria248 Posts
November 20 2011 14:42 GMT
#8
just this morning, on reading the news paper, i thought "lol, look at the americans 'pizza and fries are vegetables'..". now this feels kinda like a slap in the face... this is so useless, they are just wasting time with this stuff that should be used on other stuff...
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Ho0ps
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom216 Posts
November 20 2011 14:42 GMT
#9
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Count9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China10928 Posts
November 20 2011 14:42 GMT
#10
YES! Take that smug euros bashing the U.S. just cause tomato sauce is now considered a vegetable, at least that one was built on a foundation that had a tiny bit of sense in it.

Rules banning bent bananas and curved cucumbers were scrapped in 2008 after causing international ridicule.

Also, what? I've never heard of this but now that I google it it's everywhere.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-20 14:46:00
November 20 2011 14:43 GMT
#11
Nice to see them spend millions on absolutely pointless shit like this. Excuse me, I need to go and punch something. Preferably something cute and fluffy.

Oh and for the next project, how about finding out whether inhaling and exhaling really is delivering oxygen to our internal organs? I hear that's a very grey area.
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GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
November 20 2011 14:43 GMT
#12
This happens when you want governments to regulate stuff they shouldn't.
KroplaBeskidu
Profile Joined June 2011
1093 Posts
November 20 2011 14:43 GMT
#13
This is too dumb to just happen somebody had to pay for this, beer business, coffee business, carbonated shit business something like that.
H0i
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands484 Posts
November 20 2011 14:44 GMT
#14
Water should be a vegetable.
Oakstream
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden240 Posts
November 20 2011 14:44 GMT
#15
i think the politicians is just screwing with us over right now, I mean any person can realize that pizza isn't a vegetable, and the same thing with this.
and how can it not have been proven that is prevents dehydration? what are our scientists doing nowadays?
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
November 20 2011 14:44 GMT
#16
On November 20 2011 23:40 zakmaa wrote:
This is the most absurd thing ever. Dehydration is not having enough water, obviously having water prevents not-having-enough-water...


maybe having water in your gut is not the same as hydrating yourself, thats what the trained scientists agreed upon isnt it? they have very stringent rules because a) medical safety and b) bullshitting from companies. put those 3 things together and you have this result
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Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
November 20 2011 14:44 GMT
#17
Its more an issue of implementing what experts say.


A meeting of 21 scientists in Parma, Italy, concluded that reduced water content in the body was a symptom of dehydration and not something that drinking water could subsequently control.


Than it is an issue of implementing silly stuff. Can't be helped if the experts give a strange ruling. Guess you should talk to more experts.
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Childplay
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada263 Posts
November 20 2011 14:45 GMT
#18
um... are people losing common sense these days? if water dosnt hydrate you, then what does?
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
November 20 2011 14:45 GMT
#19
It's not that they are stupid, it's just that someone stuffed their pockets in exchange for this ruling, and they sufficiently don't give a shit or this is a normal enough thing to do that no one cares that it sounds dumb as fuck.
Frostmister
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden77 Posts
November 20 2011 14:47 GMT
#20
Can't I just move to the internet instead?
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