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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
November 22 2011 22:34 GMT
#221
Whats happening to humanity?
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15660 Posts
November 22 2011 22:57 GMT
#222
You know, if people are looking for the BEST and most purest of water, they should consider drinking De-ionized water. None of the mess of normal tap, or even bottled water. Just pure H2O

The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
November 22 2011 23:10 GMT
#223
On November 22 2011 19:03 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2011 15:03 Supamang wrote:
On November 21 2011 20:33 deconduo wrote:
On November 21 2011 12:10 Supamang wrote:
On November 21 2011 12:03 Azzur wrote:
On November 21 2011 04:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On November 21 2011 03:51 Azzur wrote:
My post in the previous thread on this issue that got closed: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286499#20

Now, if you want to get technical, if someone is suffering from dehydration, then water is not a good (and even potentially dangerous) way of re-hydrating them. It is far better to use an electrolyte drink. Also, people are not reading between the lines of ruling far enough and relying on the tone of the extremely biased article - the ruling was meant to stop drink companies from promoting their water as more healthy, when in reality, simple tap water is probably more effective.

However, what I'll comment is that the world seems to be descending into big brother govt where they seem to want to regulate every bit of life. Which is guess is what the people are asking for as they get fooled by advertising gimmicks and sue/protest when they make stupid decisions. What happened to good old common sense?

That's ridiculous. In layman's terms, water helps flush out your system, there is no way water is worse for doing that than water which already stuff in it.

also, from the OP's spoiler "They applied for the right to state that “regular consumption of significant amounts of water can reduce the risk of development of dehydration” as well as preventing a decrease in performance."
I don't like the fact someone tried to claim that. The moment you stop consuming, the risk is the same as it ever was.

Well, that's where you have not got it right - water is not the best option for someone suffering from dehydration. It is even possible to kill yourself drinking too much water. So, in that sense, the experts have got it right. However, the need to make this kind of ruling to snuff out advertising gimmicks is a sad reflection on humanity and big brother govt.

Anyways, for those not believing me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehydration

Read the part about the treatment for dehydration, where in severe cases a balance of water and electrolytes is needed.

Why are we talking about treatment of dehydration anyway?

On that exact same wikipedia page, go to the "Prevention" section and right at the top it says "Dehydration is best avoided by drinking sufficient water." News Flash: The OP is talking about claims of preventing dehydration, not treating it.

Jesus Christ, I cant believe how many people here actually care so much about these insignificant technicalities. "Well aaaaaactuallly, water isnt the best treatment. You need water AND electrolytes." Are you fucking kidding me?


No, only drinking water will NOT prevent dehydration in cases where you are losing large amounts of fluids. Thats the whole point of this ruling. This is not semantics or insignificant technicalities, its scientific fact.

Its like someone putting a saltwater fish in a tank with fresh water in it and then wondering why the fish died. Sure the fish needs water to live, but it also needs the salt.



oh dear god...sighhhhh

my whole point is who the fuck cares about these technicalities? They ARE semantics and insignificant technicalities even if theyre scientific facts. Were talking about a ruling that will affect an overwhelming majority of people who wont face fatal (or even just serious) dehydration. If someone is facing serious dehydration and losing large amounts of fluids, you think a doctors gonna go "Quick, get the bottled water! I saw in a TV ad that it can prevent dehydration!"

Most of us deal with minor dehydration and what do we do when we feel thirsty? Oh yea, we go drink some water. Oh noes, but its scientifically proven that water isnt as good as other certain other liquids for keeping ourselves hydrated, better stop drinking water! If you dont understand my point by now, its that its a very nearly completely useless issue considering the fact that water is better than nothing when we feel dehydrated. Oh and also because of the fact that no one cared about this little factoid about dehydration until the EU decided to spend time and money to make an official ruling on it.

If you read the article you'll see that the EU brought in a perfectly reasonable law on what was and was not acceptable for promoting a product. Some wise-asses then decided to come up with the "does water stop dehydration" example and demand a ruling on it. What would you have them do? Say "who cares, you're not actually trying to sell a product"? They came up with the law, when someone asks for clarification on a specific case they looked into it and answered it. There really is no issue here.


But Kwark, how does that fit into the media narrative of the EU as a semi-dystopian, anti democratic, bureaucratic, money wasting, anti-common sense nightmare?!
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-22 23:28:05
November 22 2011 23:27 GMT
#224
On November 23 2011 07:57 Mohdoo wrote:
You know, if people are looking for the BEST and most purest of water, they should consider drinking De-ionized water. None of the mess of normal tap, or even bottled water. Just pure H2O


How about sterilized de-ionized water. It is one of the best dillution-agents in a bio-chemical laboratory. If you wanna get really ill, you should go all the way!
Repeat before me
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
November 22 2011 23:36 GMT
#225
Gosh, when did TL turn into a sensationalistic rag?
RIP

Seriously though, this is all BS. The EU does a lot of bad things, but honestly this isn't even worth reading.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
FrodoAndTheSlobStix
Profile Joined September 2011
United States158 Posts
November 22 2011 23:41 GMT
#226
If it's not proven I kind of agree.
You eat meat? Then your evil. Simple as that.
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
November 22 2011 23:49 GMT
#227
On November 23 2011 08:36 Euronyme wrote:
Gosh, when did TL turn into a sensationalistic rag?
RIP

Seriously though, this is all BS. The EU does a lot of bad things, but honestly this isn't even worth reading.

You obviously didnt even read the post so therefore I should tell you that noone likes to listen to (or read for that matter) people that have no clue about what they are talking about.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
November 23 2011 00:04 GMT
#228
On November 23 2011 08:49 Roflhaxx wrote:
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On November 23 2011 08:36 Euronyme wrote:
Gosh, when did TL turn into a sensationalistic rag?
RIP

Seriously though, this is all BS. The EU does a lot of bad things, but honestly this isn't even worth reading.

You obviously didnt even read the post so therefore I should tell you that noone likes to listen to (or read for that matter) people that have no clue about what they are talking about.


Yeah I read the OP, and it said that they banned the immoral use of commercials that exploited poor people in dry areas. Appearantly this stops misleading and biased commercials and slogans. The headline reads "EU bans claim that water can prevent Dehydration", which is completely out of context.
Seems like you're the only one not having a clue, buddy.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
Geovu
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Estonia1344 Posts
November 23 2011 00:21 GMT
#229
On November 22 2011 23:30 TemujinGK wrote:
I don't want to live on this earth anymore.


De-hydra-tion

Without-water.

( ._.)

LOL I just realized that SC2 is De-Hydra-ted!

Normally I'd say it's because there's not enough water on any of the maps (Except Lost Temple) but apparently that claim is illegal now.
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
November 23 2011 00:28 GMT
#230
You better do something about your emerick "pizza = vegetable" law before your kids get even more fat.
I dot't know how retarded someone has to be to think this "commercial law" is in any way irrational or stupid or whatever. I suppose you have to be American to make such assumptions about such simple law.
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 23 2011 00:29 GMT
#231
who cares? why would you want to put on your water bottle "this prevents dehydration" anyways?

what everyone should be arguing about is why--with all the budget issues--government bodies are wasting time and money on stupid issues.... guess how many thousands of euros it cost to get the supposed ruling that water doesnt prevent hydration?
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 00:31:16
November 23 2011 00:30 GMT
#232
Yeah, there's no evidence that water hydrates you, fruit will obviously make you fat and there is no clearly established link between eating animal products and cancer.

And pizza is now a vegetable.

wait, wuttttt

Seriously - we need a law about this? Who raised this question?
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
November 23 2011 00:31 GMT
#233
I don't understand what's wrong with this... ?

Why is this worth a thread? Seems perfectly sensible to me.
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dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 23 2011 00:32 GMT
#234
On November 23 2011 09:30 Piy wrote:
Yeah, there's no evidence that water hydrates you, fruit will obviously make you fat and there is no clearly established link between eating animal products and cancer.

And pizza is now a vegetable.

wait, wuttttt

Seriously - we need a law about this? Who raised this question?

ummmm, there is a lot of sugar in fruit, so yeah, it will contribute to making you fat. fruit juice is especially high in calories because of the sugar.
5ukkub
Profile Joined September 2009
Poland507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-23 01:02:14
November 23 2011 00:57 GMT
#235
On November 23 2011 09:32 dAPhREAk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 09:30 Piy wrote:
Yeah, there's no evidence that water hydrates you, fruit will obviously make you fat and there is no clearly established link between eating animal products and cancer.

And pizza is now a vegetable.

wait, wuttttt

Seriously - we need a law about this? Who raised this question?

ummmm, there is a lot of sugar in fruit, so yeah, it will contribute to making you fat. fruit juice is especially high in calories because of the sugar.


Agreed, but if you consume lots of "fastfood" products too, like cheeseburger, cakes, ice cream, and other products full of fat and sugar.

Besides of fructose, fruits has a lot of vitamines, so the healthiest is a mix of meat + vegetables + fruits diet and active life.
Less hamburgers, american vegetable-pizzas and more activity, like 10 min walk a day could make wonders!
Rationalism - Don't take evereything what you hear as a fact! Thinking process makes us human.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
November 23 2011 01:01 GMT
#236
On November 23 2011 09:57 5ukkub wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2011 09:32 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 23 2011 09:30 Piy wrote:
Yeah, there's no evidence that water hydrates you, fruit will obviously make you fat and there is no clearly established link between eating animal products and cancer.

And pizza is now a vegetable.

wait, wuttttt

Seriously - we need a law about this? Who raised this question?

ummmm, there is a lot of sugar in fruit, so yeah, it will contribute to making you fat. fruit juice is especially high in calories because of the sugar.


Agreed, but if you consume lots of "fastfood" products too, like cakes, ice cream, and other products full of fat and sugar.

The healthiest is a mix of meat + vegetables + fruits diet and active life.
Less hamburgers, american vegetable-pizzas and more activity, like 10 min walk a day could make wonders!

eating too much fruit by itself will make you fat without cakes, ice cream and other products full of fat and sugar.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
November 23 2011 04:19 GMT
#237
Apparently in some countries, drinking water will turn you gay lol:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/22/peru-tap-water-homosexuality-jose-benitez-mayor_n_1107840.html?ref=mostpopular
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