On November 20 2011 23:39 zeru wrote:
This is starting to remind me more and more of Idiocracy. Time to replace all the water with BRAWNDO - THE THIRST MUTILATOR.

Lol, holy shit it is exactly like that. After all, it's got electrolytes, which is what plants crave.

Oh God I have to go watch that movie again. Fucking hilarious.

sheaRZerg

United States613 Posts

November 21 2011 09:50 GMT

#183

My guess is it is taken out of context...and the issue is the volume of water in a standard bottle not being enough to prevent dehydration.

It's gotta be...right?

Thenno

Netherlands33 Posts

November 21 2011 09:55 GMT

#184

On November 21 2011 18:50 sheaRZerg wrote:
My guess is it is taken out of context...and the issue is the volume of water in a standard bottle not being enough to prevent dehydration.

It's gotta be...right?

Of course it is take out of context

. The statement by the professors is that there are clinical forms of dehydration (diseases, etc.) which bottled water cannot help, cure or prevent. Allowing water bottlers to print 'Helps against dehydration' could imply that it's some cure for clinical dehydration, which it isn't obviously.

KinosJourney2

Sweden1811 Posts

November 21 2011 09:56 GMT

#185

On November 20 2011 23:39 zeru wrote:
This is starting to remind me more and more of Idiocracy. Time to replace all the water with BRAWNDO - THE THIRST MUTILATOR.

Haha, good movie

I get EU's point by not allowing people having such information on their bottles as there are dumb fucks who will think bottled water is better than regular water, but people put more retarded stuff on their products so i don't see why they shouldn't let them.

Alejandrisha

United States6565 Posts

November 21 2011 10:01 GMT

#186

we should really make sure we deliberate enough to get this right.

gruff

Sweden2276 Posts

November 21 2011 10:04 GMT

#187

This is why politics is so hard. Present something to the public and they'll cherry pick minor details while ignoring the broader subject. The pizza is a vegetable thread is the same. I have to say I'm often guilty of this as well.

Lafie

Finland36 Posts

November 21 2011 10:14 GMT

#188

Partly true, as if you are suffering from dehydration, drinking raw water too fast is just going to make it worse, you wont be able to keep it in anyway, need dropping or just drink it real slowly. Quite similiar if coffee was marketed as "cures tiredness".

Velr

Switzerland10800 Posts

November 21 2011 10:28 GMT

#189

I support this.

Seriously, it might be pointless/stupid but the last thing i want to see on a whater bottle is "DRINK WATER, OR BECOME DEHYDRATED!" and scareads like that...

FEEL BAD? YOUR NOT HYDRATED ENOUGH --> DRINK XXX-WATER!

NeThZOR

South Africa7387 Posts

November 21 2011 10:36 GMT

#190

Even though what they are trying to achieve with this move may be somewhat justified, in my eyes it still remains a quite radical claim. The force of misanthropy is largely growing inside me, not necessarily for my fellow man, but those who are apparently against us as a human race. All they are doing with all this load of crap is bringing humanity down.

Avan

Brazil121 Posts

November 21 2011 10:42 GMT

#191

I say we put a few LiquidMods there. Those guys are never gonna troll the world so hard again. EVER.

gruff

Sweden2276 Posts

November 21 2011 10:42 GMT

#192

On November 21 2011 19:14 Lafie wrote:
Partly true, as if you are suffering from dehydration, drinking raw water too fast is just going to make it worse, you wont be able to keep it in anyway, need dropping or just drink it real slowly. Quite similiar if coffee was marketed as "cures tiredness".

I wouldn't be surprised if there was some coffee show that uses that as a slogan. I know some tea's have some wild claims on their boxes, making it sounds almost like it could cure cancer or something.

askTeivospy

1525 Posts

November 21 2011 10:48 GMT

#193

avoiding dehydration and preventing it are two different things imo, ban is good

turdburgler

England6749 Posts

November 21 2011 11:09 GMT

#194

On November 21 2011 12:00 Supamang wrote:

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ugh..let me guess, if a diver requested some more oxygen you would be that guy telling everyone how oxygen is poisonous and that he really needs a mixture of different gasses.

edit: ah fuckit

no. why do you feel the need to be such a dick? what im saying is that when someone opens their mouth to breath i wont be standing there with a bottle of pure oxygen trying to tell them that i can make their breathing better.

iN.Dez

15 Posts

November 21 2011 11:13 GMT

#195

Water doesnt replenish electrolytes though, right?

iggyfisk

Sweden212 Posts

November 21 2011 11:14 GMT

#196

Anything that prevents the sale of bottled water should be applauded.

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

November 21 2011 11:33 GMT

#197

On November 21 2011 12:10 Supamang wrote:

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On November 21 2011 12:03 Azzur wrote:

On November 21 2011 04:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:

On November 21 2011 03:51 Azzur wrote:
My post in the previous thread on this issue that got closed: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286499#20

Now, if you want to get technical, if someone is suffering from dehydration, then water is not a good (and even potentially dangerous) way of re-hydrating them. It is far better to use an electrolyte drink. Also, people are not reading between the lines of ruling far enough and relying on the tone of the extremely biased article - the ruling was meant to stop drink companies from promoting their water as more healthy, when in reality, simple tap water is probably more effective.

However, what I'll comment is that the world seems to be descending into big brother govt where they seem to want to regulate every bit of life. Which is guess is what the people are asking for as they get fooled by advertising gimmicks and sue/protest when they make stupid decisions. What happened to good old common sense?

That's ridiculous. In layman's terms, water helps flush out your system, there is no way water is worse for doing that than water which already stuff in it.

also, from the OP's spoiler "They applied for the right to state that “regular consumption of significant amounts of water can reduce the risk of development of dehydration” as well as preventing a decrease in performance."
I don't like the fact someone tried to claim that. The moment you stop consuming, the risk is the same as it ever was.

Well, that's where you have not got it right - water is not the best option for someone suffering from dehydration. It is even possible to kill yourself drinking too much water. So, in that sense, the experts have got it right. However, the need to make this kind of ruling to snuff out advertising gimmicks is a sad reflection on humanity and big brother govt.

Anyways, for those not believing me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehydration

Read the part about the treatment for dehydration, where in severe cases a balance of water and electrolytes is needed.

Why are we talking about treatment of dehydration anyway?

On that exact same wikipedia page, go to the "Prevention" section and right at the top it says "Dehydration is best avoided by drinking sufficient water." News Flash: The OP is talking about claims of preventing dehydration, not treating it.

Jesus Christ, I cant believe how many people here actually care so much about these insignificant technicalities. "Well aaaaaactuallly, water isnt the best treatment. You need water AND electrolytes." Are you fucking kidding me?

No, only drinking water will NOT prevent dehydration in cases where you are losing large amounts of fluids. Thats the whole point of this ruling. This is not semantics or insignificant technicalities, its scientific fact.

Its like someone putting a saltwater fish in a tank with fresh water in it and then wondering why the fish died. Sure the fish needs water to live, but it also needs the salt.

prplhz

Denmark8045 Posts

November 21 2011 11:38 GMT

#198

i don't care that they banned this, it's obviously to prevent stupid ads that mislead people. everybody knows that water quenches thirst anyway.

what bothers me is that people in the european parliament, all the do is stupid shit like this. they also banned curved cucumbers. don't they have anything important to do such as dealing with dictatorships and nuclear weapons and debt crises and climate andhuman trafficking? every time you hear from the european parliament they spent ages agreeing on stupid shit like this, jesus christ.

BottleAbuser

Korea (South)1888 Posts

November 21 2011 11:41 GMT

#199

Dehydration is a condition that, among other things, includes lack of sufficient water in the body. It is not solved by drinking water alone, and that is the conclusion that the committee reached. You can spin it how you like.

In other news, vespine gas doesn't automagically win Starcraft games.