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Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 03:11:08
November 21 2011 03:10 GMT
#181
Classic enti-eu nonsense, they love to get people to buy papers and click ads with this shit.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Pyskee
Profile Joined April 2011
United States620 Posts
November 21 2011 03:53 GMT
#182
On November 20 2011 23:39 zeru wrote:
This is starting to remind me more and more of Idiocracy. Time to replace all the water with BRAWNDO - THE THIRST MUTILATOR.

Lol, holy shit it is exactly like that. After all, it's got electrolytes, which is what plants crave.

Oh God I have to go watch that movie again. Fucking hilarious.
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sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 09:50:26
November 21 2011 09:50 GMT
#183
My guess is it is taken out of context...and the issue is the volume of water in a standard bottle not being enough to prevent dehydration.

It's gotta be...right?
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
Thenno
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands33 Posts
November 21 2011 09:55 GMT
#184
On November 21 2011 18:50 sheaRZerg wrote:
My guess is it is taken out of context...and the issue is the volume of water in a standard bottle not being enough to prevent dehydration.

It's gotta be...right?

Of course it is take out of context . The statement by the professors is that there are clinical forms of dehydration (diseases, etc.) which bottled water cannot help, cure or prevent. Allowing water bottlers to print 'Helps against dehydration' could imply that it's some cure for clinical dehydration, which it isn't obviously.
KinosJourney2
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden1811 Posts
November 21 2011 09:56 GMT
#185
On November 20 2011 23:39 zeru wrote:
This is starting to remind me more and more of Idiocracy. Time to replace all the water with BRAWNDO - THE THIRST MUTILATOR.


Haha, good movie

I get EU's point by not allowing people having such information on their bottles as there are dumb fucks who will think bottled water is better than regular water, but people put more retarded stuff on their products so i don't see why they shouldn't let them.
ocho wrote: EDIT: NEVERMIND, THIS THING HAS APM TECHNOLOGY OMG
Alejandrisha
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6566 Posts
November 21 2011 10:01 GMT
#186
we should really make sure we deliberate enough to get this right.
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gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
November 21 2011 10:04 GMT
#187
This is why politics is so hard. Present something to the public and they'll cherry pick minor details while ignoring the broader subject. The pizza is a vegetable thread is the same. I have to say I'm often guilty of this as well.
Lafie
Profile Joined August 2005
Finland36 Posts
November 21 2011 10:14 GMT
#188
Partly true, as if you are suffering from dehydration, drinking raw water too fast is just going to make it worse, you wont be able to keep it in anyway, need dropping or just drink it real slowly. Quite similiar if coffee was marketed as "cures tiredness".
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10960 Posts
November 21 2011 10:28 GMT
#189
I support this.

Seriously, it might be pointless/stupid but the last thing i want to see on a whater bottle is "DRINK WATER, OR BECOME DEHYDRATED!" and scareads like that...

FEEL BAD? YOUR NOT HYDRATED ENOUGH --> DRINK XXX-WATER!
NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
November 21 2011 10:36 GMT
#190
Even though what they are trying to achieve with this move may be somewhat justified, in my eyes it still remains a quite radical claim. The force of misanthropy is largely growing inside me, not necessarily for my fellow man, but those who are apparently against us as a human race. All they are doing with all this load of crap is bringing humanity down.
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Avan
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil121 Posts
November 21 2011 10:42 GMT
#191
I say we put a few LiquidMods there. Those guys are never gonna troll the world so hard again. EVER.
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gruff
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden2276 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 10:45:24
November 21 2011 10:42 GMT
#192
On November 21 2011 19:14 Lafie wrote:
Partly true, as if you are suffering from dehydration, drinking raw water too fast is just going to make it worse, you wont be able to keep it in anyway, need dropping or just drink it real slowly. Quite similiar if coffee was marketed as "cures tiredness".


I wouldn't be surprised if there was some coffee show that uses that as a slogan. I know some tea's have some wild claims on their boxes, making it sounds almost like it could cure cancer or something.
askTeivospy
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 10:49:12
November 21 2011 10:48 GMT
#193
avoiding dehydration and preventing it are two different things imo, ban is good
hihihi
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
November 21 2011 11:09 GMT
#194
On November 21 2011 12:00 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 11:49 turdburgler wrote:
On November 21 2011 11:29 Supamang wrote:
"Not to be outdone, US Congress has now banned the claim that pizza can prevent starvation"


your trying to make a joke but how many people who live on things like pizza die every year of malnutrition? dehydration is more complex than water, water alone will not always fix the issue.

ugh..let me guess, if a diver requested some more oxygen you would be that guy telling everyone how oxygen is poisonous and that he really needs a mixture of different gasses.

edit: ah fuckit



no. why do you feel the need to be such a dick? what im saying is that when someone opens their mouth to breath i wont be standing there with a bottle of pure oxygen trying to tell them that i can make their breathing better.
iN.Dez
Profile Joined November 2008
15 Posts
November 21 2011 11:13 GMT
#195
Water doesnt replenish electrolytes though, right?
iggyfisk
Profile Joined April 2008
Sweden212 Posts
November 21 2011 11:14 GMT
#196
Anything that prevents the sale of bottled water should be applauded.
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
November 21 2011 11:33 GMT
#197
On November 21 2011 12:10 Supamang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 21 2011 12:03 Azzur wrote:
On November 21 2011 04:18 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On November 21 2011 03:51 Azzur wrote:
My post in the previous thread on this issue that got closed: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=286499#20

Now, if you want to get technical, if someone is suffering from dehydration, then water is not a good (and even potentially dangerous) way of re-hydrating them. It is far better to use an electrolyte drink. Also, people are not reading between the lines of ruling far enough and relying on the tone of the extremely biased article - the ruling was meant to stop drink companies from promoting their water as more healthy, when in reality, simple tap water is probably more effective.

However, what I'll comment is that the world seems to be descending into big brother govt where they seem to want to regulate every bit of life. Which is guess is what the people are asking for as they get fooled by advertising gimmicks and sue/protest when they make stupid decisions. What happened to good old common sense?

That's ridiculous. In layman's terms, water helps flush out your system, there is no way water is worse for doing that than water which already stuff in it.

also, from the OP's spoiler "They applied for the right to state that “regular consumption of significant amounts of water can reduce the risk of development of dehydration” as well as preventing a decrease in performance."
I don't like the fact someone tried to claim that. The moment you stop consuming, the risk is the same as it ever was.

Well, that's where you have not got it right - water is not the best option for someone suffering from dehydration. It is even possible to kill yourself drinking too much water. So, in that sense, the experts have got it right. However, the need to make this kind of ruling to snuff out advertising gimmicks is a sad reflection on humanity and big brother govt.

Anyways, for those not believing me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehydration

Read the part about the treatment for dehydration, where in severe cases a balance of water and electrolytes is needed.

Why are we talking about treatment of dehydration anyway?

On that exact same wikipedia page, go to the "Prevention" section and right at the top it says "Dehydration is best avoided by drinking sufficient water." News Flash: The OP is talking about claims of preventing dehydration, not treating it.

Jesus Christ, I cant believe how many people here actually care so much about these insignificant technicalities. "Well aaaaaactuallly, water isnt the best treatment. You need water AND electrolytes." Are you fucking kidding me?


No, only drinking water will NOT prevent dehydration in cases where you are losing large amounts of fluids. Thats the whole point of this ruling. This is not semantics or insignificant technicalities, its scientific fact.

Its like someone putting a saltwater fish in a tank with fresh water in it and then wondering why the fish died. Sure the fish needs water to live, but it also needs the salt.

prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
November 21 2011 11:38 GMT
#198
i don't care that they banned this, it's obviously to prevent stupid ads that mislead people. everybody knows that water quenches thirst anyway.

what bothers me is that people in the european parliament, all the do is stupid shit like this. they also banned curved cucumbers. don't they have anything important to do such as dealing with dictatorships and nuclear weapons and debt crises and climate andhuman trafficking? every time you hear from the european parliament they spent ages agreeing on stupid shit like this, jesus christ.
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-21 11:43:09
November 21 2011 11:41 GMT
#199
Dehydration is a condition that, among other things, includes lack of sufficient water in the body. It is not solved by drinking water alone, and that is the conclusion that the committee reached. You can spin it how you like.

In other news, vespine gas doesn't automagically win Starcraft games.
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Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
November 21 2011 12:21 GMT
#200
On November 21 2011 20:14 iggyfisk wrote:
Anything that prevents the sale of bottled water should be applauded.


This pretty much sums up my thoughts.
Good ban
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