On October 17 2012 13:40 either I or wrote: Something is wrong with Obama. He seems off and stuttering. Is he sick?
His oration has always been mostly rhetoric. He stutters when discussing specifics. This was a knock on him last cycle too because he always did that when he was off the teleprompter. It's not a change.
Not really. I volunteered for him in 2008 and have seen him in person during debates and conferences. He rarely, if never, stutters, in the 6 month period that I've seen him then when he was out in public or when he was with the group.
We'll have to agree to disagree on this one. I don't think his style has changed much. He gives a great canned speech and gracefully weaves rhetoric into comments, but I always felt he stuttered like that when trying to pull facts out on the fly.
It's the lamest thing to come out of the internet but it is actually right here, yeah lets agree to disagree. Maybe there's something about seeing him firsthand, or we may be experiencing and noticing things differently given the different nature of our experience with him. In my recollection, if he was good with prepared speeches, he was way more awesome on random ones. I wanted to volunteer this year, but school. Now that you say that, I'll pay closer attention.
On October 17 2012 14:01 Defacer wrote: Obama not only owned the Libya attacks, he owned it with authority and looked presidential doing so. And when Candy brought up that Hilary took responsibility for the State Department's lack of security, Obama doubled-down, praised Hilary and basically wouldn't allow her to throw herself under the bus.
word. that was the right move. Romney looked thrown when he was like "and I think the president just said the buck stops at his desk" and Obama is sitting in the back nodding all serious and shit. good moment for him
[Nodding] "That's right. I'm the motherfucking president."
Obama achieved victory on this whole Benghazi gaffe when he turned it into an argument on semantics. Sheer genius. All he said during the debate was that he said it was an "act of terror." He let everyone else, including Romney and the moderator, do the rest of the work for him. ohmahgawd.
On October 17 2012 14:01 Defacer wrote: Obama not only owned the Libya attacks, he owned it with authority and looked presidential doing so. And when Candy brought up that Hilary took responsibility for the State Department's lack of security, Obama doubled-down, praised Hilary and basically wouldn't allow her to throw herself under the bus.
word. that was the right move. Romney looked thrown when he was like "and I think the president just said the buck stops at his desk" and Obama is sitting in the back nodding all serious and shit. good moment for him
[Nodding] "That's right. I'm the motherfucking president."
On October 17 2012 14:01 Defacer wrote: Obama not only owned the Libya attacks, he owned it with authority and looked presidential doing so. And when Candy brought up that Hilary took responsibility for the State Department's lack of security, Obama doubled-down, praised Hilary and basically wouldn't allow her to throw herself under the bus.
word. that was the right move. Romney looked thrown when he was like "and I think the president just said the buck stops at his desk" and Obama is sitting in the back nodding all serious and shit. good moment for him
[Nodding] "That's right. I'm the motherfucking president."
Let's face it, Obama has done nothing about jobs in the last four years. And now he wants us to give him a chance to fulfill his promises? Not gonna happen.
On October 17 2012 13:05 Kaitlin wrote: Candy Crowley was wrong on the Bengazi thing, as was Obama. Romney was right. CNN walked that back that she admitted she was wrong and Romney was right.
We know what the administration official statements were, but the video is right there. It is incontrovertible evidence that what Obama and the moderator said in the debate was true. Obama did in fact call it an act of terror the day after it happened.
An act of terror is not the same as a terrorist attack. A terrorist attack is an organized group of people that attack something hoping to inflict terror. An act of terror is a spontaneous attack by an individual that creates terror. Why else would he go on to cite the videos days and even more than a week later as the cause of the violence?
On October 17 2012 13:05 Kaitlin wrote: Candy Crowley was wrong on the Bengazi thing, as was Obama. Romney was right. CNN walked that back that she admitted she was wrong and Romney was right.
We know what the administration official statements were, but the video is right there. It is incontrovertible evidence that what Obama and the moderator said in the debate was true. Obama did in fact call it an act of terror the day after it happened.
An act of terror is not the same as a terrorist attack. A terrorist attack is an organized group of people that attack something hoping to inflict terror. An act of terror is a spontaneous attack by an individual that creates terror. Why else would he go on to cite the videos days and even more than a week later as the cause of the violence?
After all the stupid remarks Romney made throughout the debate, it made me smugly grin to see Romney get caught in a semantics trap. I couldn't help but smile when he got owned. He pretty much deserved it.
I think we should elect our rulers 100 years in advance of their term and send them to a boot camp/university/immortality center in orbit around alpha centauri, where they study, do whatever this P90x thing I've been hearing so much about is, and commune with the sacred mysteries of Pythagoras (9th level). Then when they come back to Planet Earth they will be perfect rulers. Who's with me?
On October 17 2012 14:31 oneofthem wrote: well i'm sure bill's sex life is an important political issue unlike this little terror affair.
you said it yourself, its just an affair.
(in the interest of being way too flippant)
but i think an important parallel is that of republicans making way too big of a deal of it for political gain. remember trying to impeach clinton for perjury or w/e?
On October 17 2012 14:30 sam!zdat wrote: I think we should elect our rulers 100 years in advance of their term and send them to a boot camp/university/immortality center in orbit around alpha centauri, where they study, do whatever this P90x thing I've been hearing so much about is, and commune with the sacred mysteries of Pythagoras (9th level). Then when they come back to Planet Earth they will be perfect rulers. Who's with me?
Pretty sure Romney would just try to establish economic victory for the Morganites by cornering the global energy market.
Economic When a player has enough energy reserves (roughly equal to what it would take to mind-control all the remaining cities on planet), he or she can assert an economic takeover of Planet and win the game. This takes 20 turns to achieve, during which any faction capturing your Headquarters can prevent your victory. A player must also have discovered Planetary Economics in order to utilize this type of Victory.
"In a CBS News Instant Poll of uncommitted voters, 37 percent say President Obama won the second presidential debate, 30 percent say Romney won, and 33 percent called it a tie."
On October 17 2012 14:01 Defacer wrote: Obama not only owned the Libya attacks, he owned it with authority and looked presidential doing so. And when Candy brought up that Hilary took responsibility for the State Department's lack of security, Obama doubled-down, praised Hilary and basically wouldn't allow her to throw herself under the bus.
word. that was the right move. Romney looked thrown when he was like "and I think the president just said the buck stops at his desk" and Obama is sitting in the back nodding all serious and shit. good moment for him
[Nodding] "That's right. I'm the motherfucking president."
Let's face it, Obama has done nothing about jobs in the last four years. And now he wants us to give him a chance to fulfill his promises? Not gonna happen.
Would you like him to take the 5 million jobs that were created back?
Also, Romney adamantly stated that the government doesn't create jobs. So why would you need a president at all?
On October 17 2012 14:01 Defacer wrote: Obama not only owned the Libya attacks, he owned it with authority and looked presidential doing so. And when Candy brought up that Hilary took responsibility for the State Department's lack of security, Obama doubled-down, praised Hilary and basically wouldn't allow her to throw herself under the bus.
word. that was the right move. Romney looked thrown when he was like "and I think the president just said the buck stops at his desk" and Obama is sitting in the back nodding all serious and shit. good moment for him
[Nodding] "That's right. I'm the motherfucking president."
Let's face it, Obama has done nothing about jobs in the last four years. And now he wants us to give him a chance to fulfill his promises? Not gonna happen.
i suppose all those private sector jobs added in the last 4 years had nothing to do with his policys
It says it is true, and it is true in the sense that he did say it. However, it doesnt seem to be true in the broader sense of the question in regards to Romney's stance on coal.
Romney keeps repeating throughout the debate that he knows how to create jobs.
But this is just empty rhetoric. It's vague, it's not specific, and he's done or said absolutely nothing that would suggest that he knows how to create jobs.
If Romney really knew how to create jobs, then he would say how to create jobs, not that he knows how to create jobs. Tell us something.
It's exactly like when McCain just kept saying that he knew how to get Bin Laden. If McCain really knew how to get Bin Laden, why the fuck didn't he tell us all?
On October 17 2012 16:00 paralleluniverse wrote: Romney keeps repeating throughout the debate that he knows how to create jobs.
But this is just empty rhetoric. It's vague, it's not specific, and he's done or said absolutely nothing that would suggest that he knows how to create jobs.
If Romney really knew how to create jobs, then he would say how to create jobs, not that he knows how to create jobs. Tell us something.
It's exactly like when McCain just kept saying that he knew how to get Bin Laden. If McCain really knew how to get Bin Laden, why the fuck didn't he tell us all?
While I agree with you, perhaps he believes that his tax plan and health care plans will create jobs.
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