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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 17 2012 03:09 GMT
#17221
http://bindersfullofwomen.tumblr.com/

the internet moves fast.
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JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
October 17 2012 03:11 GMT
#17222
On October 17 2012 12:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://bindersfullofwomen.tumblr.com/

the internet moves fast.


Sorry - what is this referencing? Just saw a bunch of these on my FB feed
Yargh
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
October 17 2012 03:11 GMT
#17223
kerry has a shit eating grin on his face on CNN
No Artosis, you are robin
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 17 2012 03:12 GMT
#17224
On October 17 2012 12:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://bindersfullofwomen.tumblr.com/

the internet moves fast.

wow that link is hilarious! thanks.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
October 17 2012 03:12 GMT
#17225
On October 17 2012 12:01 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
"Please proceed governor." ~ Barack Obama


Oh my god that was a beautiful response. "I politely decline to address your accusations. Keep talking, bee-yotch."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 17 2012 03:12 GMT
#17226
scratch that, the internet moves REALLY fast.

https://www.facebook.com/romneybindersfullofwomen
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44372 Posts
October 17 2012 03:13 GMT
#17227
On October 17 2012 12:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://bindersfullofwomen.tumblr.com/

the internet moves fast.


Oh my god that's amazing.

That last pic... trap her keep her LOL
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 17 2012 03:13 GMT
#17228
On October 17 2012 12:12 ticklishmusic wrote:
scratch that, the internet moves REALLY fast.

https://www.facebook.com/romneybindersfullofwomen

holy shit LOL
:)
TheToaster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States280 Posts
October 17 2012 03:14 GMT
#17229
Before I express my thoughts on the first two debates, I'd just like to point out that there's no such thing as a winner in these debates. Sure a candidate can seem stronger than his opponent, but it's not like he gets any points for doing so. The undecided voter will still hear what they want to hear, and think what they want to think for the most part. And whatever each candidate does in a debate can't change that.

So first off, I think these debates are very interesting because they allow viewers to directly perceive how each candidate presents themselves. Before the first debate, there was no way I was going to watch or read a news report on either candidate, considering the biased American media these days. But now I can watch them face to face, discussing the topics that need attention, not just what the media decides is interesting to cherrypick.

From that point, I'd like to first bring attention to a major irony that I think many probably ignore. After watching Romney take time to discuss his policies and agendas, there seems to be a huge trend with how he presents himself. Almost on a repeated cycle, he will state his same basic principles without going into much detail or elaboration. Things like "I care about every single American, rich or poor" or "I want to bring jobs to this country" or "I know what it takes to create a prosperous economy" gets endlessly repeated.

It's ironic because this was how Obama largely presented himself during the 2008 election. He wanted people to believe in "change" and other elementary principles without really talking about how they should be implemented or performed. So just based on this comparison, I feel like voters who choose Romney might even get cheated for their vote the same way Obama voters got cheated in 2008. And no, I'm not one of those voters. This is my first election as a registered voter.

The most annoying thing, however, is the sheer amount of disrespect for the debate rules that each candidate displays. The lesser of these two evils seems like Obama; the President will make comedic remarks when not spoken to, but I can tell he says them to relieve tension from either himself or the situation.

Romney on the other hand acts like an unleashed dog, and it personally makes me start to resent what he's even saying. Mr. Governor, I don't see the need for you to disregard debate rules if you aren't even spending the time to elaborate on what you're saying. Save whatever vague 15 second line of moral uplift you have for your next turn to speak. I'm sure something like "I care about the American people" will sound exactly the same in any context.

I feel like the real debating can't even begin until someone gives Romney a chill pill. For now, these small reasons are what's keeping me shifted towards Obama's vote. Signing off for now, I'm yet another independent voter who's just trying to make sense out of all this political chaos.
Oh, get a job? Just get a job? Why don't I strap on my job helmet, squeeze down into a job cannon, and fire off into job land, where jobs grow on jobbies!
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 03:15:28
October 17 2012 03:14 GMT
#17230
On October 17 2012 12:08 JinDesu wrote:
I do agree - but usually I am very aware of the quotes being taken out of context, so I don't mind so much. I think he's gotten more and more unhappy with the political field right now, and that's why he's crusading more. I remember him 5-6 years ago and he was a lot less invested.


when steward takes something out of context its because he wants to make a joke on comedy central

its not like he takes 1 line out of context, runs with it for 2 weeks, then hosts a convention in which the main night is titled with his rebuttle to the 1 out of context line, even though the fact he can even host the convention is a direct lump of shit on his rebuttle.

x)
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 03:16:47
October 17 2012 03:15 GMT
#17231
I just want to congratulate myself for recommending and predicting the strategy that would allow Obama to beat Romney.

Romney is obsessed with 'the rules' a debate. Bend the rules, and he will become unglued. And it worked
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44372 Posts
October 17 2012 03:16 GMT
#17232
On October 17 2012 12:11 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 12:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://bindersfullofwomen.tumblr.com/

the internet moves fast.


Sorry - what is this referencing? Just saw a bunch of these on my FB feed


Both candidates were asked by a girl about how they would support gender equality (or something like that). If I recall correctly, Romney gave a wishywashy answer about how when he became governor, his applicants for his cabinet were all men, and so he asked for binders of women (to make things more equal). His word choice wasn't perfect, to say the least.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
waxypants
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States479 Posts
October 17 2012 03:16 GMT
#17233
On October 17 2012 12:07 xDaunt wrote:
In a sick way, Romney flubbing the Libya thing may help him long term, because everyone is talking about Libya now. The problem is that what Obama said at the debate and implied simply isn't true.


Which part?
theNational.
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada54 Posts
October 17 2012 03:17 GMT
#17234
On October 17 2012 12:07 Orome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 12:02 Deathmanbob wrote:
On October 17 2012 11:59 theNational. wrote:


Fox does actually have a couple people with integrity. Shepard Smith is pretty fucking awesome.


i fucking LOVE shepard smith, i want to shake his hand one day and go you are one of the best around


I have no idea who he is, but this is fucking awesome.



He's an avid Constitutionalist and while that does tend to have some drawbacks you can't fault the man on integrity. I feel like he was one of the influences for Will McAvoy's character on the Newsroom. If you want good news with a bit of a right wing lean to it he's your go to guy.
Try as you may but you will always be a tourist - Titus Andronicus
TheToaster
Profile Joined August 2011
United States280 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 13:30:31
October 17 2012 03:17 GMT
#17235
Mod Edit: Double post.
+ Show Spoiler +
Before I express my thoughts on the first two debates, I'd just like to point out that there's no such thing as a winner. It's even rather silly to consider a winner, since everyone's political perspective is different.

So first off, I think these debates are very interesting because they allow viewers to directly perceive how each candidate presents themselves. Before the first debate, there was no way I was going to watch or read a news report on either candidate, considering the biased American media these days. But now I can watch them face to face, discussing the topics that need attention, not just what the media decides is interesting to cherrypick.

From that point, I'd like to first bring attention to a major irony that I think many probably ignore. After watching Romney take time to discuss his policies and agendas, there seems to be a huge trend with how he presents himself. Almost on a repeated cycle, he will state his same basic principles without going into much detail or elaboration. Things like "I care about every single American, rich or poor" or "I want to bring jobs to this country" or "I know what it takes to create a prosperous economy" gets endlessly repeated.

It's ironic because this was how Obama largely presented himself during the 2008 election. He wanted people to believe in "change" and other elementary principles without really talking about how they should be implemented or performed. So just based on this comparison, I feel like voters who choose Romney might even get cheated for their vote the same way Obama voters got cheated in 2008. And no, I'm not one of those voters. This is my first election as a registered voter.

The most annoying thing, however, is the sheer amount of disrespect for the debate rules that each candidate displays. The lesser of these two evils seems like Obama; the President will make comedic remarks when not spoken to, but I can tell he says them to relieve tension from either himself or the situation.

Romney on the other hand acts like an unleashed dog, and it personally makes me start to resent what he's even saying. Mr. Governor, I don't see the need for you to disregard debate rules if you aren't even spending the time to elaborate on what you're saying. Save whatever vague 15 second line of moral uplift you have for your next turn to speak. I'm sure something like "I care about the American people" will sound exactly the same in any context.

I feel like the real debating can't even begin until someone gives Romney a chill pill. For now, these small reasons are what's keeping me shifted towards Obama's vote. Signing off for now, I'm yet another independent voter who's just trying to make sense out of all this political chaos.
Oh, get a job? Just get a job? Why don't I strap on my job helmet, squeeze down into a job cannon, and fire off into job land, where jobs grow on jobbies!
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
October 17 2012 03:17 GMT
#17236
On October 17 2012 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 12:11 JinDesu wrote:
On October 17 2012 12:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://bindersfullofwomen.tumblr.com/

the internet moves fast.


Sorry - what is this referencing? Just saw a bunch of these on my FB feed


Both candidates were asked by a girl about how they would support gender equality (or something like that). If I recall correctly, Romney gave a wishywashy answer about how when he became governor, his applicants for his cabinet were all men, and so he asked for binders of women (to make things more equal). His word choice wasn't perfect, to say the least.


Good lord, you serious? I really missed a lot this debate then...
Yargh
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-17 03:21:12
October 17 2012 03:17 GMT
#17237
I can't believe Obama turned Libya into a relative positive for himself. He set the trap and Romney fell for it hook line and sinker.

You had to know going into this debate that both sides were preparing heavily for that question. It was the place where Obama was weakest and Romney had the most opportunity to land a knockout punch and tip this debate in his favor. Whoever came up with the strategy for that answer, hats off to them. He played right into how the right-wing media has been hammering the issue, while not lying about what he said in his address to the nation. Fox spent the last 2 weeks talking about how the Obama administration was calling it a spontaneous attack rather than an organized attack by terrorists, so much so that Romney and his campaign got lost on what else the administration had said. When the President said "I called it an act of terror" Romney's eyes lit up, he thought he got him, he was ready to jump on the jugular and stick it to him, but the President really said it, and the moderator backed it up, making Romney look exactly like how Obama's campaign wanted to portray him - opportunistic.

On top of that Obama basically got to put in a whole 2 minutes of how strong he is on terror and how he resents the idea that he isn't. I've been in the President's corner from the beginning but this was the biggest issue where he deserved to have it taken to him (not his overall handling of terrorism, but his administration's less than forthcoming stance regarding the information around this particular attack), and somehow he and his advisers were able to avert most of the flak for the time being.

The rest of the debate was pretty ho-hum imo if you saw the Vice Presidential debate. Obama kept running with the same playbook that Biden took to Danville last week. I thought he related better on the issue of inequality for women in the workplace - he talked about his mother, grandmother, and Lilly Ledbetter act and seemed very well versed while Romney talked about accommodating women rather than advocating women. Obama had a clear, strong comeback to Romney on Immigration law, was strong on the question of energy and energy independence. Across the board a stronger performance, combined with a crafty way of dodging the issue of Libya and the state dept.'s handling of it made for a clear Obama win.
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oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
October 17 2012 03:18 GMT
#17238
obama's act of terror wording can stonewall it pretty well.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
October 17 2012 03:19 GMT
#17239
On October 17 2012 12:17 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2012 12:16 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 17 2012 12:11 JinDesu wrote:
On October 17 2012 12:09 ticklishmusic wrote:
http://bindersfullofwomen.tumblr.com/

the internet moves fast.


Sorry - what is this referencing? Just saw a bunch of these on my FB feed


Both candidates were asked by a girl about how they would support gender equality (or something like that). If I recall correctly, Romney gave a wishywashy answer about how when he became governor, his applicants for his cabinet were all men, and so he asked for binders of women (to make things more equal). His word choice wasn't perfect, to say the least.


Good lord, you serious? I really missed a lot this debate then...


yeah, it was something about how he request someone to collect resume's of qualified women for his cabinet.

But he used the phrase "binders full of women" somwhere in that story. It was kinda funny.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 17 2012 03:19 GMT
#17240
So I'm watching this Frank Luntz focus group on Fox right now that is supposedly made up of undecided voters, most of whom voted for Obama in 2008. By an overwhelming margin, they said that they were not voting for Romney. Usually Frank Luntz does a good job, and usually focus groups are fairly reliable if properly selected (I've conducted them), but I have my doubts about this one. What surprised me was how they perceived that Obama was on the defensive most of the time -- that he had few answers for Romney's charges against his record. I guess the whole primacy and recency thing matters (Romney led off with an indictment of Obama's record if you remember and Obama didn't really defend himself at the start or in his closing remarks).
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