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On October 17 2012 12:39 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 12:37 Supamang wrote:On October 17 2012 12:36 xDaunt wrote: Obama's record is so fatal that he can't win so long as there is a credible alternative. Come on lets be completely honest with ourselves here...this is an exaggeration. I really don't think so. Obama's record is horrible by an objective standard. He's on par with Jimmy Carter.
Yes if you include first half of 2009, no if you look at mid-2009 to the present.
I think the latter is more fair, conservatives would prefer the former.
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On October 17 2012 12:19 xDaunt wrote: So I'm watching this Frank Luntz focus group on Fox right now that is supposedly made up of undecided voters, most of whom voted for Obama in 2008. By an overwhelming margin, they said that they were not voting for Romney. Usually Frank Luntz does a good job, and usually focus groups are fairly reliable if properly selected (I've conducted them), but I have my doubts about this one. What surprised me was how they perceived that Obama was on the defensive most of the time -- that he had few answers for Romney's charges against his record. I guess the whole primacy and recency thing matters (Romney led off with an indictment of Obama's record if you remember and Obama didn't really defend himself at the start or in his closing remarks). That's the thing about negative campaigning - it's stupid but it works. There are plenty of voters who'll buy into it simply based on repetition or who's louder.
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On October 17 2012 12:40 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 12:38 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 12:37 sam!zdat wrote: There is no alternative, xDaunt. There is no alternative. Don't you know?? Let me revel in my naïveté. nah you just provoked one of my little pet obsessions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_is_no_alternativeedit: nice job on those diacritics though - u so cultured xdaunt <3 Alas, I must give all credit to my iPad for the auto formatting. I really can't be bothered otherwise. Plus, I hate the French.
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On October 17 2012 12:36 xDaunt wrote: So I'm watching this Frank Luntz focus group on Fox right now that is supposedly made up of undecided voters, most of whom voted for Obama in 2008. By an overwhelming margin, they said that they were not voting for Romney .... the explanation for their findings is my plywood board theory: Obama's record is so fatal that he can't win so long as there is a credible alternative. (this is from two separate posts, I've condensed it into what is relevant for my question)
I'm confused by what you mean here. Your plywood board theory would explain why undecided voters would eventually vote for Romney. But your first statement says the undecided voters, by an overwhelming margin, said that they were not voting for Romney. Did you mean that, before the debate they weren't going to vote Romney, but now they are? Or was the "not" a typo?
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On October 17 2012 12:42 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 12:39 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 12:37 Supamang wrote:On October 17 2012 12:36 xDaunt wrote: Obama's record is so fatal that he can't win so long as there is a credible alternative. Come on lets be completely honest with ourselves here...this is an exaggeration. I really don't think so. Obama's record is horrible by an objective standard. He's on par with Jimmy Carter. Yes if you include first half of 2009, no if you look at mid-2009 to the present. I think the latter is more fair, conservatives would prefer the former. Most of the charges against Obama are related to actions taken after 2009.
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I dont know why you guys keep trying to talk sense into xDaunt. He obviously believes this rhetoric that FOX news isnt "that biased" and keeps talking about things he sees on that channel like it represents how most of Americans feel.
I mean most news networks are shit but if CNBC is shit crumbs, FOX is the faucet that pours out diarrhea .
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On October 17 2012 12:43 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 12:40 sam!zdat wrote:On October 17 2012 12:38 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 12:37 sam!zdat wrote: There is no alternative, xDaunt. There is no alternative. Don't you know?? Let me revel in my naïveté. nah you just provoked one of my little pet obsessions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/There_is_no_alternativeedit: nice job on those diacritics though - u so cultured xdaunt <3 Alas, I must give all credit to my iPad for the auto formatting. I really can't be bothered otherwise. Plus, I hate the French.
LOL and I was all impressed there for minute :D The shiny white fetish makes everyone look smart even when they don't want to!
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you can use words like objective all you want but you are parroting. you need to provide examples rather than just say obamas terrible.
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On October 17 2012 12:44 Signet wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 12:36 xDaunt wrote: So I'm watching this Frank Luntz focus group on Fox right now that is supposedly made up of undecided voters, most of whom voted for Obama in 2008. By an overwhelming margin, they said that they were not voting for Romney .... the explanation for their findings is my plywood board theory: Obama's record is so fatal that he can't win so long as there is a credible alternative. (this is from two separate posts, I've condensed it into what is relevant for my question) I'm confused by what you mean here. Your plywood board theory would explain why undecided voters would eventually vote for Romney. But your first statement says the undecided voters, by an overwhelming margin, said that they were not voting for Romney. Did you mean that, before the debate they weren't going to vote Romney, but now they are? Or was the "not" a typo? Sorry, I meant to say that they are now voting for Romney.
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On October 17 2012 12:45 gostunv wrote: I dont know why you guys keep trying to talk sense into xDaunt.
you talking shit about my boy xdaunt? come over hur and say that again
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On October 17 2012 12:30 BluePanther wrote: They need to give the moderator a mic kill switch. I would prefer a shock collar.
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On October 17 2012 12:46 turdburgler wrote: you can use words like objective all you want but you are parroting. you need to provide examples rather than just say obamas terrible. I don't really feel the need to relitigate stuff that has already been discussed ad nauseum in this thread. Go do a search if you have no idea what Obama has screwed up on.
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On October 17 2012 12:47 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 12:45 gostunv wrote: I dont know why you guys keep trying to talk sense into xDaunt.
you talking shit about my boy xdaunt? come over hur and say that again It's spelled "hurr."
Uncultured, tsk tsk...
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On October 17 2012 12:49 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 12:47 sam!zdat wrote:On October 17 2012 12:45 gostunv wrote: I dont know why you guys keep trying to talk sense into xDaunt.
you talking shit about my boy xdaunt? come over hur and say that again It's spelled "hurr." Uncultured, tsk tsk...
sorry i don't has an ipad (if they'd stop taxing my fucking capital gains maybe I could get one )
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Chuck Todd has to be the most boring person in the world.
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On October 17 2012 12:50 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Chuck Todd has to be the most boring person in the world.
Ben Stein will accept that challenge.
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On October 17 2012 12:49 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 12:46 turdburgler wrote: you can use words like objective all you want but you are parroting. you need to provide examples rather than just say obamas terrible. I don't really feel the need to relitigate stuff that has already been discussed ad nauseum in this thread. Go do a search if you have no idea what Obama has screwed up on.
if you dont want to repeat it why bring it up, you cant make random ass claims then tell me to do the research. thats not how things work
On October 17 2012 12:49 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 12:47 sam!zdat wrote:On October 17 2012 12:45 gostunv wrote: I dont know why you guys keep trying to talk sense into xDaunt.
you talking shit about my boy xdaunt? come over hur and say that again It's spelled "hurr." Uncultured, tsk tsk...
actually hur is the ghetto word for here, as in get over hur.
hurr is the sound you make when you go full retard as in, hurr durr.
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On October 17 2012 12:47 sam!zdat wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 12:45 gostunv wrote: I dont know why you guys keep trying to talk sense into xDaunt.
you talking shit about my boy xdaunt? come over hur and say that again
im in front of your door right now. look up. your computer is now diamonds. i punch a hole through your wall and it reveals the secret passage way to Atlantis. ive got 2 tickets to that show you like on any day. i find jimmy hoffa under your bed alive and we all have a nice tea break.
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On October 17 2012 12:54 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2012 12:49 xDaunt wrote:On October 17 2012 12:46 turdburgler wrote: you can use words like objective all you want but you are parroting. you need to provide examples rather than just say obamas terrible. I don't really feel the need to relitigate stuff that has already been discussed ad nauseum in this thread. Go do a search if you have no idea what Obama has screwed up on. if you dont want to repeat it why bring it up, you cant make random ass claims then tell me to do the research. thats not how things work
scumbag turdburgler:
demands discussion on internet forum
*insert picture of turdburgler*
on page 864
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Someone needs to buy Jindal a map of the United States.
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