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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here. The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301 | ||
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
On August 31 2012 11:30 xDaunt wrote: This Rubio speech is kinda meh. really? as a democrat, i thought it was really good, im kinda sad i dont get to see Romenys speech as i have to play a hockey game but still, i thought rubio was good | ||
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farvacola
United States18833 Posts
On August 31 2012 11:33 Stratos_speAr wrote: I also don't understand why so many Americans have a reverence for the Founding Fathers and the Constitution that is comparable to how Christians revere the Bible. Obviously the Constitution is very important; you need to have something to lay the foundation for a country's laws and policies, but the damn thing was written by people and was written several hundred years ago. Not only that, the Founding Fathers were incredibly flawed people as well. The American people are obsessed with a document and hero centric national narrative, it is part of the national consciousness. | ||
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
On August 31 2012 11:33 Stratos_speAr wrote: I also don't understand why so many Americans have a reverence for the Founding Fathers and the Constitution that is comparable to how Christians revere the Bible. Obviously the Constitution is very important; you need to have something to lay the foundation for a country's laws and policies, but the damn thing was written by people and was written several hundred years ago. Not only that, the Founding Fathers were incredibly flawed people as well. It is a ground-breaking political document. Revolutionary, really. Personally I think it's time to revise it, but it is one of the most significant documents in modern history. | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On August 31 2012 11:35 BluePanther wrote: It is a ground-breaking political document. Revolutionary, really. Personally I think it's time to revise it, but it is one of the most significant documents in modern history. Of course it is, but it's still blown way out of proportion. | ||
Falling
Canada11367 Posts
On August 31 2012 11:33 Stratos_speAr wrote: I also don't understand why so many Americans have a reverence for the Founding Fathers and the Constitution that is comparable to how Christians revere the Bible. Obviously the Constitution is very important; you need to have something to lay the foundation for a country's laws and policies, but the damn thing was written by people and was written several hundred years ago. Not only that, the Founding Fathers were incredibly flawed people as well. The Constitution is the special revelation from heaven to make America, the world's last hope yo. All else has fallen to darkness, but still America stands as the final, shining beacon. | ||
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BluePanther
United States2776 Posts
On August 31 2012 11:36 Stratos_speAr wrote: Of course it is, but it's still blown way out of proportion. It structures our entire legal system, our rights, and drives our entire nation's existence... I'm not sure how you find it blown out of proportion.... | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
It structures our entire legal system, our rights, and drives our entire nation's existence... I'm not sure how you find it blown out of proportion.... It doesn't drive our nation's existence, and that's the problem. People need to see this. The people in this country drive its existence and it needs to be able to adapt to modern times, which it really isn't very good at dealing with at the moment. | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On August 31 2012 11:37 Falling wrote: The Constitution is the special revelation from heaven to make America, the world's last hope yo. All else has fallen to darkness, but still America stands as the final, shining beacon. The Constitution: it's the tits. | ||
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farvacola
United States18833 Posts
On August 31 2012 11:37 BluePanther wrote: It structures our entire legal system, our rights, and drives our entire nation's existence... I'm not sure how you find it blown out of proportion.... I'd say that part especially is up for a great deal of debate. | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On August 31 2012 10:50 kwizach wrote: Their evaluation was not faulty. Nobody is saying that $1 in Bush tax cuts = $1 in deficits. The point the article makes is that the scope of their impact is sufficient to greatly reduce the deficit if they were to disappear (all other things being equal). The point of the article is to make the Bush tax cuts and wars look more responsible for the deficits than they really are. If the point of the article was to argue for the removal of the Bush tax cuts because they are bad, then the article would have bothered to explain why the tax cuts are bad. | ||
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heroyi
United States1064 Posts
Stopped when he kept going on and on about how we are the best country and ..."we shouldn't make America like the whole world. We should help to make the whole world like America." Here we go again with the whole America should save other nations. Tired of subtly belittling other countries. Guess Finland, Norway and Sweden systems are inferior. edit: On August 31 2012 11:37 Falling wrote: The Constitution is the special revelation from heaven to make America, the world's last hope yo. All else has fallen to darkness, but still America stands as the final, shining beacon. ^^this The value doesn't lie in the document or the creation of the "democracy" but everyone get hyped up when people portray America to be this...sole unique country that has a democracy. We are free and we are the land of the opportunity if you can get past the corruption that goes up the ass here | ||
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TheFish7
United States2824 Posts
On August 31 2012 11:39 heroyi wrote: Guess Finland, Norway and Sweden should start modeling after the U.S Nah, lack of decent job opportunity, healthcare, and education makes me stronger. School of hard knocks yo | ||
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Deathmanbob
United States2356 Posts
guys that chant isnt good after every line | ||
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Fake)Plants
United States373 Posts
Yeah, but then you wouldn't be applying for such a sweet new job man! | ||
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
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Falling
Canada11367 Posts
On August 31 2012 11:43 Deathmanbob wrote: 2 jobs at 9 bucks a hour! USA! USA! guys that chant isnt good after every line "To make ends meet, you need to work two jobs without benefits." MURICA! Yeah, need to time those chants a little better. | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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TotalBalanceSC2
Canada475 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
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