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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
August 31 2012 02:24 GMT
#7421
American exceptionalism is such a load of #)*&#%.

I feel like most Americans are so America-centric because they don't know what goes on in the rest of the developed world.
Writer
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
August 31 2012 02:24 GMT
#7422
rubio putting too much religion on the table here... he's playing that card too early.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 31 2012 02:25 GMT
#7423
On August 31 2012 11:23 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:22 Stratos_speAr wrote:
These are the type of BS speeches that I hate. America isn't the shining beacon of the world. That's an idea that is a relic of the past. There's a reason that several countries are ahead of us in standard of living, income per household, crime rates, life expectancy, education, healthcare, employment, etc. And not only that, all of the countries that are ahead of us have more government action than we do. If politicians keep ignoring the fact that we are not the shining beacon of the world, then we're going to go absolutely nowhere.


Yes, the US would be lucky to have Canada's healthcare system and unemployment rate.


I hope you're not being sarcastic, because as a current student, I would much rather be under the Canadian healthcare system and Canada has a lower unemployment rate than the U.S.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 02:27:18
August 31 2012 02:26 GMT
#7424
If you are willing to give your child $400,000 in stock options to live off of during college ...
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
August 31 2012 02:28 GMT
#7425
On August 31 2012 11:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:23 Defacer wrote:
On August 31 2012 11:22 Stratos_speAr wrote:
These are the type of BS speeches that I hate. America isn't the shining beacon of the world. That's an idea that is a relic of the past. There's a reason that several countries are ahead of us in standard of living, income per household, crime rates, life expectancy, education, healthcare, employment, etc. And not only that, all of the countries that are ahead of us have more government action than we do. If politicians keep ignoring the fact that we are not the shining beacon of the world, then we're going to go absolutely nowhere.


Yes, the US would be lucky to have Canada's healthcare system and unemployment rate.


I hope you're not being sarcastic, because as a current student, I would much rather be under the Canadian healthcare system and Canada has a lower unemployment rate than the U.S.

He is most definitely not being sarcastic lol. I for one am enjoying these speeches quite a bit, although it saddens me to see Eastwood up there.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
August 31 2012 02:28 GMT
#7426
On August 31 2012 11:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:23 Defacer wrote:
On August 31 2012 11:22 Stratos_speAr wrote:
These are the type of BS speeches that I hate. America isn't the shining beacon of the world. That's an idea that is a relic of the past. There's a reason that several countries are ahead of us in standard of living, income per household, crime rates, life expectancy, education, healthcare, employment, etc. And not only that, all of the countries that are ahead of us have more government action than we do. If politicians keep ignoring the fact that we are not the shining beacon of the world, then we're going to go absolutely nowhere.


Yes, the US would be lucky to have Canada's healthcare system and unemployment rate.


I hope you're not being sarcastic, because as a current student, I would much rather be under the Canadian healthcare system and Canada has a lower unemployment rate than the U.S.


I was NOT being sarcastic. You're just used to thinking everyone is being sarcastic from being on TL!

Yes, the US would be lucky to have Canada's healthcare system and unemployment rate. I'm being sincere, dummy. They would be lucky.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
August 31 2012 02:28 GMT
#7427
On August 31 2012 11:26 Defacer wrote:
If you are willing to give your child $400,000 in stock options to live off of during college ...


With all due respect, I'm an average person who hasn't gotten significant financial support from my parents and I'm doing just fine... You're exaggerating.
TotalBalanceSC2
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada475 Posts
August 31 2012 02:29 GMT
#7428
Lol if you are unhappy about the economic collapse dont blame the government blame the banks, dumb Republican. It is not the government that wiped out the value of your investments, you should be grateful the government stopped the value of them droping to zero.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 31 2012 02:30 GMT
#7429
This Rubio speech is kinda meh.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-31 02:34:17
August 31 2012 02:31 GMT
#7430
On August 31 2012 11:28 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:26 Defacer wrote:
If you are willing to give your child $400,000 in stock options to live off of during college ...


With all due respect, I'm an average person who hasn't gotten significant financial support from my parents and I'm doing just fine... You're exaggerating.


I know ... it's always weird to hear a politician share his personal story of success to promote another guy ...you can't pass off the virtues gained from living in poverty by magical association.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
August 31 2012 02:31 GMT
#7431
On August 31 2012 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
This Rubio speech is kinda meh.


Condi/Christie 2016. One can hope.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
August 31 2012 02:32 GMT
#7432
On August 31 2012 11:28 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:25 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On August 31 2012 11:23 Defacer wrote:
On August 31 2012 11:22 Stratos_speAr wrote:
These are the type of BS speeches that I hate. America isn't the shining beacon of the world. That's an idea that is a relic of the past. There's a reason that several countries are ahead of us in standard of living, income per household, crime rates, life expectancy, education, healthcare, employment, etc. And not only that, all of the countries that are ahead of us have more government action than we do. If politicians keep ignoring the fact that we are not the shining beacon of the world, then we're going to go absolutely nowhere.


Yes, the US would be lucky to have Canada's healthcare system and unemployment rate.


I hope you're not being sarcastic, because as a current student, I would much rather be under the Canadian healthcare system and Canada has a lower unemployment rate than the U.S.


I was NOT being sarcastic. You're just used to thinking everyone is being sarcastic from being on TL!

Yes, the US would be lucky to have Canada's healthcare system and unemployment rate. I'm being sincere, dummy. They would be lucky.


They didn't call Tommy Douglas "The Greatest Canadian" for nothing!

Too bad we only get Jack Bauer (Keifer Sutherland) down here.
MMT University is coming! http://www.mmtuniversity.org/
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
August 31 2012 02:32 GMT
#7433
On August 31 2012 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
This Rubio speech is kinda meh.


Actually, I think it's solid. He's done a good job boosting Romney (as well as positioning himself for 2016).

xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 31 2012 02:32 GMT
#7434
On August 31 2012 11:31 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
This Rubio speech is kinda meh.


Condi/Christie 2016. One can hope.

Nah, Romney is going to win this one.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18846 Posts
August 31 2012 02:33 GMT
#7435
On August 31 2012 11:28 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:26 Defacer wrote:
If you are willing to give your child $400,000 in stock options to live off of during college ...


With all due respect, I'm an average person who hasn't gotten significant financial support from my parents and I'm doing just fine... You're exaggerating.

No, he is expounding on the meager conditions Ann and Mitt Romney experienced while slaving their way through college. Sort of like when I needed to buy books for a required chemistry class and liquidated my assets in gold to pay for them.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
August 31 2012 02:33 GMT
#7436
I also don't understand why so many Americans have a reverence for the Founding Fathers and the Constitution that is comparable to how Christians revere the Bible. Obviously the Constitution is very important; you need to have something to lay the foundation for a country's laws and policies, but the damn thing was written by people and was written several hundred years ago. Not only that, the Founding Fathers were incredibly flawed people as well.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 31 2012 02:34 GMT
#7437
On August 31 2012 11:32 Defacer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
This Rubio speech is kinda meh.


Actually, I think it's solid. He's done a good job boosting Romney (as well as positioning himself for 2016).


Compared to what Paul Ryan did last night, it's a pretty lightweight speech.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
August 31 2012 02:34 GMT
#7438
On August 31 2012 11:32 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:31 BluePanther wrote:
On August 31 2012 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
This Rubio speech is kinda meh.


Condi/Christie 2016. One can hope.

Nah, Romney is going to win this one.


I'd still want Condi/Christie 2016.
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
August 31 2012 02:35 GMT
#7439
On August 31 2012 11:33 Stratos_speAr wrote:
I also don't understand why so many Americans have a reverence for the Founding Fathers and the Constitution that is comparable to how Christians revere the Bible. Obviously the Constitution is very important; you need to have something to lay the foundation for a country's laws and policies, but the damn thing was written by people and was written several hundred years ago. Not only that, the Founding Fathers were incredibly flawed people as well.


If you don't belive in something higher (constitution, bible, or whaterver your beliefs are) the one thing that is certain is that man will always fail you at some point.


Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
August 31 2012 02:35 GMT
#7440
On August 31 2012 11:32 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2012 11:31 BluePanther wrote:
On August 31 2012 11:30 xDaunt wrote:
This Rubio speech is kinda meh.


Condi/Christie 2016. One can hope.

Nah, Romney is going to win this one.


It's going well so far. It's actually a good strategy -- to focus on the positives of Romney and personalize him.
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