President Obama Re-Elected - Page 32

On April 19 2012 18:24 murphs wrote:
Dear America,

Vote Obama.

Sincerely,
Rest of the fucking world.

On April 20 2012 10:04 DeepElemBlues wrote:


The last national election would imply that it is not Republicans who have the problem with being out of touch, but rather, it is you who is out of touch with what American voters want.

You don't win one of the largest electoral victories in 60 years by being out of touch with what voters want.

On April 20 2012 10:21 docvoc wrote:

Directed at your comment:
He is very nice to the rest of the world he emulates the normal style of more socialist or psuedo-socialist governments popular in europe, however, he had a democratic super majority in the beginning of his term in office because everyone was angry at the republicans. He proceeded to do absolutely jack shit and attempted to pass a health care bill that was too costly for our government right now, and too much for our economy to handle, he shoved it down the throats of all the democrats and if they didn't vote, they were called racist. Sounds totally legit, IKR. The fact is that until you live here, you don't understand why our politics are as weird as they are. You are in Ireland, or so your moniker states, its fine that you don't know the intimate details of the literal amount of 0 change he brought, but at the same time, to be so forward about who we as a nation should vote for is a bit out of tune with reality.

Directed at the original idea:
The president doesn't matter much after appointing the supreme court judges, because he is now mostly a figure head since modern politics have placed a lot of power in the legislative body even after George Bush created the pocket veto. What matters is congress, and this largely republican congress was elected because the democrats had the worst popularity EVER, seriously it was at 13% at one point. People inside and outside of the U.S. are quick to forget how little got done and how much was spent during that time.

Granted some say Obama pulled us out of a coming depression, but afterward many economists stepped forward and said that they had said before that the recession was just that, and the fear mongering was popularized by the liberal media and conservative media for no reason other than views.

Basically its all about congress and the senate once you understand american politics,

On April 20 2012 11:11 politik wrote:
I dunno, Obama isn't much better. Starting wars left and right, raiding dispensaries, NDAA, other stuff I've probably forgotten. Romney and Obama are both so similar that it probably won't make much of a difference.

Congress severely neutered the executive branch post watergate with FOIA, WPA, FISA and the 1974 Impoundment Control Act out of spite. Slowly but surely under the direction of Dick Cheney and David Addington did the executive branch flex and wrestle back much of the power through action (although the Iraq War gave them carte blanche to not only regain but vastly expand executive power)

On April 20 2012 11:11 politik wrote:
I dunno, Obama isn't much better. Starting wars left and right, raiding dispensaries, NDAA, other stuff I've probably forgotten. Romney and Obama are both so similar that it probably won't make much of a difference.

On April 20 2012 11:23 A Wet Shamwow wrote:

Hasn't there been a net loss of one war under his administration?

On April 20 2012 09:46 Defacer wrote:



I always thought that Romney was a worthy, moderate conservative candidate. But his pandering to the dregs of the GOP base in the primary has really hurt his viability and image, and just reinforced the stigma of Republican's offering another puppet candidate.

The problem with the Republican party isn't their leaders, such as Romney or McCain, it's the party's current brand and their base. They have positioned themselves as the anti-tax, anti-welfare, anti-social services, anti-abortion, anti-gay, anti-regulation, anti-environment, pro-rich, pro-Wall street, pro-oil, pro-Christian, pro-war party.

They are neither libertarians or fiscally conservative. They are a mess.

Governor Romney was not out-of-touch until the GOP molested him. Now he's a flip-flopping automaton.

The GOP needs a serious reboot, or all their candidates will seem out-of-touch.

On April 20 2012 11:07 Alex1Sun wrote:


I would prefer Ron Paul if I could vote for him. But Obama is far lesser evil for this planet than Romney.

On April 20 2012 11:09 -_-Quails wrote:

Actually, you can. See very few people vote based on a reasoned consideration of all issues - that would require a huge amount of effort and for them to actively challenge their own biases in order to fairly weight policies.

Many pick one party, usually the one their parents voted for, and stick with that doggedly. Many others pick a single issue and vote based on this - gay marriage and perceived religious fundamentalism can both be examples of this. And most of the rest accept what the popular pundits say about candidates and their policies at face value - even though most of them (in the US, particularly on the right wing) blatantly lie to support their views.

This ignores the impact of growing fundamentalism in the GOP, that both parties are well to the right of centre, and that the two party system in place cripples the ability of the people to actually vote for significant change.

Surveys of actual opinion on the US, when divorced from political parties, usually show the general public as being rather to the left of the Democrats on economic matters.

On April 20 2012 10:21 docvoc wrote:

Directed at your comment:
He is very nice to the rest of the world he emulates the normal style of more socialist or psuedo-socialist governments popular in europe, however, he had a democratic super majority in the beginning of his term in office because everyone was angry at the republicans. He proceeded to do absolutely jack shit and attempted to pass a health care bill that was too costly for our government right now, and too much for our economy to handle, he shoved it down the throats of all the democrats and if they didn't vote, they were called racist. Sounds totally legit, IKR. The fact is that until you live here, you don't understand why our politics are as weird as they are. You are in Ireland, or so your moniker states, its fine that you don't know the intimate details of the literal amount of 0 change he brought, but at the same time, to be so forward about who we as a nation should vote for is a bit out of tune with reality.

Directed at the original idea:
The president doesn't matter much after appointing the supreme court judges, because he is now mostly a figure head since modern politics have placed a lot of power in the legislative body even after George Bush created the pocket veto. What matters is congress, and this largely republican congress was elected because the democrats had the worst popularity EVER, seriously it was at 13% at one point. People inside and outside of the U.S. are quick to forget how little got done and how much was spent during that time.

Granted some say Obama pulled us out of a coming depression, but afterward many economists stepped forward and said that they had said before that the recession was just that, and the fear mongering was popularized by the liberal media and conservative media for no reason other than views.

Basically its all about congress and the senate once you understand american politics,