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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 02 2012 01:32 GMT
#23001
On November 02 2012 10:31 Risen wrote:
Holy shit he knows his stuff. I always assumed politicians were religious just for appearances. Apparently not?

He was a Mormon bishop.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 01:36:39
November 02 2012 01:34 GMT
#23002
mormons are a cult with very reactionary positions on a variety of issues.

apparently they have these 'excommunication' things too obviously a form of exile and in earlier ages meant probable death for the guy being exiled. it's social control
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
November 02 2012 01:35 GMT
#23003
Any Mormon can tell you that, and a lot more. They teach it to you when you're a kid.
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
November 02 2012 01:37 GMT
#23004
On November 02 2012 10:34 oneofthem wrote:
mormons are a cult with very reactionary positions on a variety of issues.

apparently they have these 'excommunication' things too obviously a form of exile and in earlier ages meant probable death for the guy being exiled. it's social control


Nah, church didn't start until the 19th century, so putting people to death didn't fly in general. It just means you're shunned by all your neighbors and family, no biggie.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 02 2012 01:37 GMT
#23005
rofl missouri this is real.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
November 02 2012 01:39 GMT
#23006
On November 02 2012 10:34 oneofthem wrote:
mormons are a cult with very reactionary positions on a variety of issues.

apparently they have these 'excommunication' things too obviously a form of exile and in earlier ages meant probable death for the guy being exiled. it's social control


I don't know... Romney's position on issues doesn't seem to be a reaction to his church.

To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 02 2012 01:40 GMT
#23007
the problem with that idea is that you assume his public declarations reflect his sincere beliefs.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
ThreeAcross
Profile Joined January 2011
172 Posts
November 02 2012 01:45 GMT
#23008
On November 02 2012 10:40 oneofthem wrote:
the problem with that idea is that you assume his public declarations reflect his sincere beliefs.


That is a problem with any politician, not just Mitt Romney.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 01:46:54
November 02 2012 01:46 GMT
#23009
I spent a fair amount of time researching Mormonism due to one of my good friends while growing up being Mormon, and I do not find much of redeeming quality. Their religious canon approaches Biblical matters in a very haphazard way; it is as though they had forgotten that the Bible's original authors lived well over a thousand years ago in their authorship, and it comes off as accordingly silly. The golden plates and "biblical" revisionist history of Joseph Smith seem like little more than an adhoc excuse to run off into the woods with a bunch of women and pretend no one can touch you. Then again, read the holy books yourself, my opinion is somewhat biased. That kid I grew up with ended up molesting his sister, and then have the Mormon church and the rest of his family basically give him penitential refuge so that he could properly "atone for his sins".
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
mynameisgreat11
Profile Joined February 2012
599 Posts
November 02 2012 01:50 GMT
#23010
On November 02 2012 10:46 farvacola wrote:
I spent a fair amount of time researching Mormonism due to one of my good friends while growing up being Mormon, and I do not find much of redeeming quality. Their religious canon approaches Biblical matters in a very haphazard way; it is as though they had forgotten that the Bible's original authors lived well over a thousand years ago in their authorship, and it comes off as accordingly silly. The golden plates and "biblical" revisionist history of Joseph Smith seem like little more than an adhoc excuse to run off into the woods with a bunch of women and pretend no one can touch you. Then again, read the holy books yourself, my opinion is somewhat biased. That kid I grew up with ended up molesting his sister, and then have the Mormon church and the rest of his family basically give him penitential refuge so that he could properly "atone for his sins".


If you've ever seen the South Park episode where they play out the origins of the church, it is actually 100% accurate, if not flatteringly presented.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
November 02 2012 01:54 GMT
#23011
On November 02 2012 10:45 ThreeAcross wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 10:40 oneofthem wrote:
the problem with that idea is that you assume his public declarations reflect his sincere beliefs.


That is a problem with any politician, not just Mitt Romney.

obama is pretty honest.
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Feartheguru
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada1334 Posts
November 02 2012 01:57 GMT
#23012
I think Romney committing critical time in Pennsylvania is a sign of desperation now, his "expanding the map" explanation makes 0 sense if he thinks he can win on the swing states. You don't commit time on the last day to "expand the map" if you're feeling good about your chances.
Don't sweat the petty stuff, don't pet the sweaty stuff.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 02:04:22
November 02 2012 02:00 GMT
#23013
Obama will win Florida. They know hurricanes and they know responses, and if they're smart they know Obama's FEMA guy is Jeb Bush's guy.

Edit: And yes myname, that South Park episode is one of the best.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14203 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 02:02:32
November 02 2012 02:02 GMT
#23014
From the religious people that I know (we talk about the election togeather and how we're gona steal the election from the democrats from our tax exempt cabins up north don't tell the govt k?) Mormanism is a cult inside utah, outside of that its a pretty normal religion. Mormanism is really fucked up and a lot of guys I know wouldn't want anything to do with a morman as president. But beacuse obama seems to be making it a non issue and romney is from mass Its not really being brought up with people.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
November 02 2012 02:06 GMT
#23015
Christ, this election needs to end. Now I am getting like 6+ calls per day from pollsters and robo-call ads. I hang up on all of them promptly.
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
November 02 2012 02:07 GMT
#23016
On November 02 2012 11:02 Sermokala wrote:
From the religious people that I know (we talk about the election togeather and how we're gona steal the election from the democrats from our tax exempt cabins up north don't tell the govt k?) Mormanism is a cult inside utah, outside of that its a pretty normal religion. Mormanism is really fucked up and a lot of guys I know wouldn't want anything to do with a morman as president. But beacuse obama seems to be making it a non issue and romney is from mass Its not really being brought up with people.


what the hell did i just read?
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
November 02 2012 02:08 GMT
#23017
On November 02 2012 11:06 xDaunt wrote:
Christ, this election needs to end. Now I am getting like 6+ calls per day from pollsters and robo-call ads. I hang up on all of them promptly.



GOTV starts tomorrow! Actually I hate calling people
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
November 02 2012 02:08 GMT
#23018
On November 02 2012 11:06 xDaunt wrote:
Christ, this election needs to end. Now I am getting like 6+ calls per day from pollsters and robo-call ads. I hang up on all of them promptly.

Yes, that is one of the downsides of living in a swing state. My Ohio area code cell phone is blowing up everyday all day and I'm losing my mind.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Leporello
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2845 Posts
November 02 2012 02:08 GMT
#23019
I don't really care if it's a "weird" religion or cult, my only problem is it isn't a world religion, it's a Christian epilogue made by Americans for Americans to tell us Jesus came to America. The whole premise of the religion makes for a horrible image to other Christian-predominant countries.
Big water
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
November 02 2012 02:09 GMT
#23020
It's funny because my friend from Pakistan respects Americans who are Mormon more than those from other Christian denominations, though he doesn't mind Catholics. Kind of expected though I suppose.
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