On May 18 2012 07:54 Defacer wrote: Update from the man that wrote the bio:
Literary Agent Says 1991 Booklet was a Mistake
Breitbart News reports on a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency which describes the author as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."
Miriam Goderich issued the following statement to Political Wire:
"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
Full disclosure: I am a client of the same literary agency.
What's more likely? That state-issued birth certificates and passports have been forged, Secret Service background checks have failed, the entire news media is in Obama's pocket, and not a single credible witness or account has come forward to verify Obama's birth in Kenya?
Or a junior/low-level assistant had a deadline and wrote a half-assed bio one afternoon?
Actually, I would bet that Obama purposely misstated where he was born to improve his resume.
Does being born in Kenya make anyone sound better? Seems like a silly thing to lie about.
I attribute it to some person asking around the office, "His father is Kenyan, right? How about his mom? Some white lady? His synopsis says he was raised in Hawaii and Indonesia. Is this guy American or Indonesia or what?
"Fuck it, I'm writing Kenya."
Playing up one's minority status is big in liberal -- especially legal -- circles in the US. Think of it as a big, feel-good circle jerk for the "socially conscious." You'd have to be a lawyer and around those people to really understand.
^^ This. Being able to say you were born in another country would probably actually net you more pay. Not to say he really needed the boost (black eic of law review at harvard), but you never know. And while the quote gives you a hint to hte likely explanation, I'd heavily wager she's an Obama Supporter -- so you know she isn't going to throw him under the bus.
On May 18 2012 14:42 Velocirapture wrote: I have always felt that the birther situation was a huge missed opportunity for the GOP. If they had instantly not only stated their position that it is nonsense to claim he isnt a citizen but also disavowed any association with such sensationalism they would have gained tons of respect with moderates. The GOP has been expending its political capital for years on dead end social conservatism and this was one easy no risk way for them to build a little back up. At least then we would all have one memory of the GOP drawing a line in the sand with their base.
8 USC § 1401(g) makes him a citizen upon birth, does it not? I'm not sure I understand what the birther argument is even about... The Republicans were smart not to hitch up to the bandwagon as it never had any traction and was never going anywhere but Humiliationville.
On May 18 2012 13:52 xXFireandIceXx wrote: Regardless of which president is elected, unless there is a majority in both congress and the senate, nothing will get done. Nothing.
There is a very good chance the Republicans will hold both chambers. It's almost going to be impossible to lose the House, and the Senate is very much in question right now.
On May 18 2012 07:54 Defacer wrote: Update from the man that wrote the bio:
Literary Agent Says 1991 Booklet was a Mistake
Breitbart News reports on a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency which describes the author as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."
Miriam Goderich issued the following statement to Political Wire:
"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
Full disclosure: I am a client of the same literary agency.
What's more likely? That state-issued birth certificates and passports have been forged, Secret Service background checks have failed, the entire news media is in Obama's pocket, and not a single credible witness or account has come forward to verify Obama's birth in Kenya?
Or a junior/low-level assistant had a deadline and wrote a half-assed bio one afternoon?
Actually, I would bet that Obama purposely misstated where he was born to improve his resume.
Does being born in Kenya make anyone sound better? Seems like a silly thing to lie about.
I attribute it to some person asking around the office, "His father is Kenyan, right? How about his mom? Some white lady? His synopsis says he was raised in Hawaii and Indonesia. Is this guy American or Indonesia or what?
"Fuck it, I'm writing Kenya."
Playing up one's minority status is big in liberal -- especially legal -- circles in the US. Think of it as a big, feel-good circle jerk for the "socially conscious." You'd have to be a lawyer and around those people to really understand.
^^ This. Being able to say you were born in another country would probably actually net you more pay.
Unless you're Mexican. Or Filipino. Or Chinese ...
For some reason, I just don't buy this premise, but I don't know what 'the legal scene' in the US is like, either.
On May 18 2012 14:42 Velocirapture wrote: I have always felt that the birther situation was a huge missed opportunity for the GOP. If they had instantly not only stated their position that it is nonsense to claim he isnt a citizen but also disavowed any association with such sensationalism they would have gained tons of respect with moderates. The GOP has been expending its political capital for years on dead end social conservatism and this was one easy no risk way for them to build a little back up. At least then we would all have one memory of the GOP drawing a line in the sand with their base.
8 USC § 1401(g) makes him a citizen upon birth, does it not? I'm not sure I understand what the birther argument is even about... The Republicans were smart not to hitch up to the bandwagon as it never had any traction and was never going anywhere but Humiliationville.
The issue is that while the GOP didnt outwardly support the birthers, they also tread very lightly over the whole issue which reads politically as support considering the extreme nature of the allegation. There was never any chance that it was true or would gain serious traction as a movement yet republicans chose to pander to the fringe minority instead of drawing a line in the sand and saying "we won't go that crazy". The latter is the missed opportunity I spoke of.
On May 18 2012 07:54 Defacer wrote: Update from the man that wrote the bio:
Literary Agent Says 1991 Booklet was a Mistake
Breitbart News reports on a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency which describes the author as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."
Miriam Goderich issued the following statement to Political Wire:
"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
Full disclosure: I am a client of the same literary agency.
What's more likely? That state-issued birth certificates and passports have been forged, Secret Service background checks have failed, the entire news media is in Obama's pocket, and not a single credible witness or account has come forward to verify Obama's birth in Kenya?
Or a junior/low-level assistant had a deadline and wrote a half-assed bio one afternoon?
Actually, I would bet that Obama purposely misstated where he was born to improve his resume.
Does being born in Kenya make anyone sound better? Seems like a silly thing to lie about.
I attribute it to some person asking around the office, "His father is Kenyan, right? How about his mom? Some white lady? His synopsis says he was raised in Hawaii and Indonesia. Is this guy American or Indonesia or what?
"Fuck it, I'm writing Kenya."
Playing up one's minority status is big in liberal -- especially legal -- circles in the US. Think of it as a big, feel-good circle jerk for the "socially conscious." You'd have to be a lawyer and around those people to really understand.
^^ This. Being able to say you were born in another country would probably actually net you more pay.
Unless you're Mexican. Or Filipino. Or Chinese ...
For some reason, I just don't buy this premise, but I don't know what 'the legal scene' in the US is like, either.
I know people who get payed upwards of 3k/week just because they are lawyers from a good school and happen to be of color. Not that they aren't smart, but its one of those situations where you know the only reason they hired the person is because of their race. "Diversity" is overplayed in the legal world.
It's all about rankings, and the ability to trumpet yourself as a "leader". An easy way to do that without actually doing anything is to be "diverse". So legal firms LOVE to make hires that make they unique, and a foreign born braniac is a prime target.
BTW, in my search for that link, i found this gem:
It's incredible how he sounded exactly the same that long ago, haha.
On May 18 2012 14:42 Velocirapture wrote: I have always felt that the birther situation was a huge missed opportunity for the GOP. If they had instantly not only stated their position that it is nonsense to claim he isnt a citizen but also disavowed any association with such sensationalism they would have gained tons of respect with moderates. The GOP has been expending its political capital for years on dead end social conservatism and this was one easy no risk way for them to build a little back up. At least then we would all have one memory of the GOP drawing a line in the sand with their base.
8 USC § 1401(g) makes him a citizen upon birth, does it not? I'm not sure I understand what the birther argument is even about... The Republicans were smart not to hitch up to the bandwagon as it never had any traction and was never going anywhere but Humiliationville.
The issue is that while the GOP didnt outwardly support the birthers, they also tread very lightly over the whole issue which reads politically as support considering the extreme nature of the allegation. There was never any chance that it was true or would gain serious traction as a movement yet republicans chose to pander to the fringe minority instead of drawing a line in the sand and saying "we won't go that crazy". The latter is the missed opportunity I spoke of.
I thought they had... Regardless, it's pointless now.
On May 18 2012 07:54 Defacer wrote: Update from the man that wrote the bio:
Literary Agent Says 1991 Booklet was a Mistake
Breitbart News reports on a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency which describes the author as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."
Miriam Goderich issued the following statement to Political Wire:
"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
Full disclosure: I am a client of the same literary agency.
What's more likely? That state-issued birth certificates and passports have been forged, Secret Service background checks have failed, the entire news media is in Obama's pocket, and not a single credible witness or account has come forward to verify Obama's birth in Kenya?
Or a junior/low-level assistant had a deadline and wrote a half-assed bio one afternoon?
Actually, I would bet that Obama purposely misstated where he was born to improve his resume.
Does being born in Kenya make anyone sound better? Seems like a silly thing to lie about.
I attribute it to some person asking around the office, "His father is Kenyan, right? How about his mom? Some white lady? His synopsis says he was raised in Hawaii and Indonesia. Is this guy American or Indonesia or what?
"Fuck it, I'm writing Kenya."
Playing up one's minority status is big in liberal -- especially legal -- circles in the US. Think of it as a big, feel-good circle jerk for the "socially conscious." You'd have to be a lawyer and around those people to really understand.
You realize it could be more then just being socially conscious. In terms of national medians of hours worked, education level and income level it goes Jewish/Asian/White/Hispanic/African-American/NA (except in hours worked average I can't find Jewish distinction).
For lawyers median pay it follows the same order with Asian/White/Hispanic/A-A and NA although NALP and most state research doesn't distinguish Jewish from White it might be more than logical assume Jews could rank top in lawyer pay if they also have the highest levels of education and income (yes if you really demand all this information I can provide citations of the 5~ sources).
It's incredible how he sounded exactly the same that long ago, haha.
I think I said it earlier, but Obama is pretty much Ferris Bueller. He wasn't born rich, but he's naturally bright, and he has probably always stood out as the most charismatic and interesting person in whatever social sphere he has entered.
He's the popular, cool kid. He might work hard but he makes everything look easy.
And there are some people that will always be extremely bitter or suspicious of people like Obama, no matter what they do.
I think Paul Begala said it best: this is the Gilligan Island election, and the nominees are Thruston Howell the III and the Professor. Who's going to get you off the island?
Probably neither, but at least the Professor isn't just looking out for himself.
On May 18 2012 07:54 Defacer wrote: Update from the man that wrote the bio:
Literary Agent Says 1991 Booklet was a Mistake
Breitbart News reports on a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency which describes the author as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."
Miriam Goderich issued the following statement to Political Wire:
"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
Full disclosure: I am a client of the same literary agency.
What's more likely? That state-issued birth certificates and passports have been forged, Secret Service background checks have failed, the entire news media is in Obama's pocket, and not a single credible witness or account has come forward to verify Obama's birth in Kenya?
Or a junior/low-level assistant had a deadline and wrote a half-assed bio one afternoon?
Actually, I would bet that Obama purposely misstated where he was born to improve his resume.
Does being born in Kenya make anyone sound better? Seems like a silly thing to lie about.
I attribute it to some person asking around the office, "His father is Kenyan, right? How about his mom? Some white lady? His synopsis says he was raised in Hawaii and Indonesia. Is this guy American or Indonesia or what?
"Fuck it, I'm writing Kenya."
Playing up one's minority status is big in liberal -- especially legal -- circles in the US. Think of it as a big, feel-good circle jerk for the "socially conscious." You'd have to be a lawyer and around those people to really understand.
You realize it could be more then just being socially conscious. In terms of national medians of hours worked, education level and income level it goes Jewish/Asian/White/Hispanic/African-American/NA (except in hours worked average I can't find Jewish distinction).
For lawyers median pay it follows the same order with Asian/White/Hispanic/A-A and NA although NALP and most state research doesn't distinguish Jewish from White it might be more than logical assume Jews could rank top in lawyer pay if they also have the highest levels of education and income (yes if you really demand all this information I can provide citations of the 5~ sources).
I'm not that surprised at the overall data. What Daunt was referring to was the culture among the big firms (the type that someone with Obama's credentials would be involved with). These are the firms that hire the Harvard/Yale people, and reach "down" to the nationally recognized schools to round out their staffs. For example, look at Howard University's hiring statistics. They are abnormally high for a school of that caliber. The only reason they are like that is because Howard University is a nationally recognized HBCU. It's not because those students are getting an education equivalent to one received at, say, Michigan. It's not even close.
To put it in perspective, here is an article discussing the school
Despite difficulties with the bar, however, Howard grads do somewhat well in the job market. Most recently, an impressive 72% were placed in jobs at graduation and the figure upped to 85% within 9 months. And the news gets even better: The most recently reported median full-time starting salary for a Howard graduate working in the private sector was $160,000, a staggering figure for a school outside the top-100. In fact, Howard's salary statistics would seem to place it on par with schools in the vaunted Top-14. This is because the array of "biglaw" jobs open to Howard graduates is very impressive. A whopping 551 law firms do on campus interviews (a primary means for law students to secure employment) at Howard, including 68 firms from New York, 66 from California, and 88 from DC. This points to the national reach of a Howard degree, and it bears mentioning that these are not minor firms. Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen and Katz, traditionally considered the creme de la creme of New York biglaw firms due to their generous starting salary and bonuses, does on campus interviewing at Howard, and they are known mainly for recruiting almost exclusively from the top-6 law schools.
I'd be surprised if that data held true for graduates from Harvard. Or even the range of top 30 or so law schools. If you have data on that, I'd love to see if my perceptions are true/false; however, I doubt it's public data if it even exists.
Plenty of URMs with Howard numbers can get into Tier 1 schools, some even cracking the Top 14. $160,000 median salary is just too good, it's T6 territory. Although "median full-time starting salary" might just mean like the top 5% of the class that received full-time offers.
On May 18 2012 07:54 Defacer wrote: Update from the man that wrote the bio:
Literary Agent Says 1991 Booklet was a Mistake
Breitbart News reports on a promotional booklet produced in 1991 by Barack Obama's then-literary agency which describes the author as "born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii."
Miriam Goderich issued the following statement to Political Wire:
"You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me -- an agency assistant at the time. There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
Full disclosure: I am a client of the same literary agency.
What's more likely? That state-issued birth certificates and passports have been forged, Secret Service background checks have failed, the entire news media is in Obama's pocket, and not a single credible witness or account has come forward to verify Obama's birth in Kenya?
Or a junior/low-level assistant had a deadline and wrote a half-assed bio one afternoon?
Actually, I would bet that Obama purposely misstated where he was born to improve his resume.
Does being born in Kenya make anyone sound better? Seems like a silly thing to lie about.
I attribute it to some person asking around the office, "His father is Kenyan, right? How about his mom? Some white lady? His synopsis says he was raised in Hawaii and Indonesia. Is this guy American or Indonesia or what?
"Fuck it, I'm writing Kenya."
Playing up one's minority status is big in liberal -- especially legal -- circles in the US. Think of it as a big, feel-good circle jerk for the "socially conscious." You'd have to be a lawyer and around those people to really understand.
And what do you have to be to "really understand" there's zero evidence Obama lied about his birth place? And that the most sensible explanation is exactly what the assistant said, namely that it was a simple mistake on the publisher's side?
Yep, there's definitely no basis for my assertion that Obama has fibbed about his birthplace.
While some quickly dismissed as an anomaly yesterday’s explosive revelation that Barack Obama’s former literary agency billed him as “born in Kenya” back in 1991 in connection with a book he never wrote, WND has discovered much later published references – some dated as recently as 2003 – used to promote his highly touted book “Dreams of My Father.”
As WND reported, Breitbart News originally found a brochure from two decades ago in which literary agency Acton & Dystel promoted Obama as the author of the never-produced “Journeys in Black and White” by declaring Obama was “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”
Through the Internet archive Wayback Machine, WND found an August 2003 listing of Dystel & Goderich’s author bios, including the following: “Barack Obama was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii and Chicago. His first book is ‘Dreams of My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”
Twelve years later, however, the Dystel of Acton & Dystel was busy promoting Obama’s new book, “Dreams of My Father,” and still touting the author as “born in Kenya.”
Even if the original 1991 brochure’s listing of Kenya as Obama’s birthplace was in error, as the agency has since claimed, it apparently was an error Obama allowed his publicist to persist in for over a decade.
While some quickly dismissed as an anomaly yesterday’s explosive revelation that Barack Obama’s former literary agency billed him as “born in Kenya” back in 1991 in connection with a book he never wrote, WND has discovered much later published references – some dated as recently as 2003 – used to promote his highly touted book “Dreams of My Father.”
As WND reported, Breitbart News originally found a brochure from two decades ago in which literary agency Acton & Dystel promoted Obama as the author of the never-produced “Journeys in Black and White” by declaring Obama was “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”
Through the Internet archive Wayback Machine, WND found an August 2003 listing of Dystel & Goderich’s author bios, including the following: “Barack Obama was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii and Chicago. His first book is ‘Dreams of My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”
Twelve years later, however, the Dystel of Acton & Dystel was busy promoting Obama’s new book, “Dreams of My Father,” and still touting the author as “born in Kenya.”
Even if the original 1991 brochure’s listing of Kenya as Obama’s birthplace was in error, as the agency has since claimed, it apparently was an error Obama allowed his publicist to persist in for over a decade.
it's pathetic this is even still being debated. This BS has been debunked so many times it's amazing people still bring it up, it's embarassing it's even being talked about. It's embarassing to even the republicans this still gets talked about. The fact that his birth was announced at the time in a Hawaii newspaper alone should be enough for any intelligent person to conclude he was born in the US. What's the argument against that? That they decided at the time he was born this baby would someday become president and to start an elaborate conspiracy to cover up his birth place in hopes he would become the first black president 50 years later? Give me a break. Or maybe someone went back in time and printed it? LOL... I love how your "source" is some random guy involved with his book who claimed he was born in Kenya up until 2007.. unfortunately intelligent human beings rely on solid facts and proof. I guess that's why the fact that his long form birth certificate was released multiple times does nothing to sway your opinion. Oh right I forgot, that's a fake too, with the entire state of Hawaii in on the conspiracy..
On May 19 2012 00:24 xDaunt wrote: Yep, there's definitely no basis for my assertion that Obama has fibbed about his birthplace.
While some quickly dismissed as an anomaly yesterday’s explosive revelation that Barack Obama’s former literary agency billed him as “born in Kenya” back in 1991 in connection with a book he never wrote, WND has discovered much later published references – some dated as recently as 2003 – used to promote his highly touted book “Dreams of My Father.”
As WND reported, Breitbart News originally found a brochure from two decades ago in which literary agency Acton & Dystel promoted Obama as the author of the never-produced “Journeys in Black and White” by declaring Obama was “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”
Through the Internet archive Wayback Machine, WND found an August 2003 listing of Dystel & Goderich’s author bios, including the following: “Barack Obama was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii and Chicago. His first book is ‘Dreams of My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”
Twelve years later, however, the Dystel of Acton & Dystel was busy promoting Obama’s new book, “Dreams of My Father,” and still touting the author as “born in Kenya.”
Even if the original 1991 brochure’s listing of Kenya as Obama’s birthplace was in error, as the agency has since claimed, it apparently was an error Obama allowed his publicist to persist in for over a decade.
it's pathetic this is even still being debated. This BS has been debunked so many times it's amazing people still bring it up, it's embarassing it's even being talked about. It's embarassing to even the republicans this still gets talked about. The fact that his birth was announced at the time in a Hawaii newspaper alone should be enough for any intelligent person to conclude he was born in the US. What's the argument against that? That they decided at the time he was born this baby would someday become president and to start an elaborate conspiracy to cover up his birth place in hopes he would become the first black president 50 years later? Give me a break. Or maybe someone went back in time and printed it? LOL... I love how your "source" is some random guy involved with his book who claimed he was born in Kenya up until 2007.. unfortunately intelligent human beings rely on solid facts and proof. I guess that's why the fact that his long form birth certificate was released multiple times does nothing to sway your opinion. Oh right I forgot, that's a fake too, with the entire state of Hawaii in on the conspiracy..
You probably have not been following the conversation, but no one is offering this as proof that Obama wasn't born in the US so much as it is being offered as another example of Obama being disingenuous about his past.
I highly doubt Obama scrutinized the pamphlets/biographies very closely; the quote seems to be from the blurb or backcover, not from the content itself. And misinformation propogates; the second author/aide would see the blurb on the first publication and use that interesting fact, the third would the see the second's or first's work, and so on. And I haven't really been following politics lately, so what are the other examples of him lying about his past?
(Nor is it exactly a rare occurence for a president to stretch the truth or outright fib about their origin. I know of at least three presidents in the 19th century who claimed to be born on the log cabin right next to their victorian mansion).
While some quickly dismissed as an anomaly yesterday’s explosive revelation that Barack Obama’s former literary agency billed him as “born in Kenya” back in 1991 in connection with a book he never wrote, WND has discovered much later published references – some dated as recently as 2003 – used to promote his highly touted book “Dreams of My Father.”
As WND reported, Breitbart News originally found a brochure from two decades ago in which literary agency Acton & Dystel promoted Obama as the author of the never-produced “Journeys in Black and White” by declaring Obama was “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”
Through the Internet archive Wayback Machine, WND found an August 2003 listing of Dystel & Goderich’s author bios, including the following: “Barack Obama was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii and Chicago. His first book is ‘Dreams of My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”
Twelve years later, however, the Dystel of Acton & Dystel was busy promoting Obama’s new book, “Dreams of My Father,” and still touting the author as “born in Kenya.”
Even if the original 1991 brochure’s listing of Kenya as Obama’s birthplace was in error, as the agency has since claimed, it apparently was an error Obama allowed his publicist to persist in for over a decade.
No, there's no basis for your assertion, since there is zero evidence it's Obama who lied about his birthplace rather than the editor who made a mistake (as the very person with whom the mistake originated claimed herself).
Let's look at those biographies.
1991: "Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister" 2003: "Barack Obama was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii and Chicago. " 2007: "Barack Obama [...] was [...] the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago."
Don't they look somewhat similar to you? Do you think that maybe, I don't know, the original mistake simply was not corrected when the short biographies were copy/pasted? Or is that too much of a stretch?
On May 19 2012 00:24 xDaunt wrote: Yep, there's definitely no basis for my assertion that Obama has fibbed about his birthplace.
While some quickly dismissed as an anomaly yesterday’s explosive revelation that Barack Obama’s former literary agency billed him as “born in Kenya” back in 1991 in connection with a book he never wrote, WND has discovered much later published references – some dated as recently as 2003 – used to promote his highly touted book “Dreams of My Father.”
As WND reported, Breitbart News originally found a brochure from two decades ago in which literary agency Acton & Dystel promoted Obama as the author of the never-produced “Journeys in Black and White” by declaring Obama was “born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”
Through the Internet archive Wayback Machine, WND found an August 2003 listing of Dystel & Goderich’s author bios, including the following: “Barack Obama was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii and Chicago. His first book is ‘Dreams of My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance.”
Twelve years later, however, the Dystel of Acton & Dystel was busy promoting Obama’s new book, “Dreams of My Father,” and still touting the author as “born in Kenya.”
Even if the original 1991 brochure’s listing of Kenya as Obama’s birthplace was in error, as the agency has since claimed, it apparently was an error Obama allowed his publicist to persist in for over a decade.
No, there's no basis for your assertion, since there is zero evidence it's Obama who lied about his birthplace rather than the editor who made a mistake (as the very person with whom the mistake originated claimed herself).
Let's look at those biographies.
1991: "Barack Obama, the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii. The son of an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister" 2003: "Barack Obama was the first black president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister, and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii and Chicago. " 2007: "Barack Obama [...] was [...] the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review. He was born in Kenya to an American anthropologist and a Kenyan finance minister and was raised in Indonesia, Hawaii, and Chicago."
Don't they look somewhat similar to you? Do you think that maybe, I don't know, the original mistake simply was not corrected when the short biographies were copy/pasted? Or is that too much of a stretch?
Sure, they are extremely similar. But now that it's shown up more than once, the claim that "Obama never saw it" is far less likely. I know that every time someone writes a profile on me, I am curious and want to read it.
The truth is that Obama likely doesn't even know where he was born himself. Do you remember where you were when you were <1 month old? He probably saw it and was like "fuck it, whatever. makes me sound better anyways." It's a weak argument that he did something wrong or that he's a bad person... but I see no reason why Daunt isn't allowed to make his claim.
It's not really important who makes it into the White House, but whether someone out there can manufacture another bubble/boom somewhere. That's the only way we're gonna turn this around, darnnit.
Umm, so about the statistics for undergrad job placement/etc...
So, my school boasts a 80% med school acceptance rate, or something like that. That sounds pretty good right? Well, actually, that 80% is the rate for students who fit within their "golden rectangle", meaning students who get over a certain GPA and MCAT score. You also have to take into account that this is "being accepted" into a med school vs. "the med school of their dreams welcomed them with open arms".
The business school does something similar I think. They have like 97% job placement with 60K median income, but that's only saying people got "a" job. Plus, its possible some of the super elite students got more than one good job offer, while the crappy students only got one crappy job which would skew the median quite a bit.
I have nothing against my school, but its important to take stats with a grain of salt.
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