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Poll: Feedbacked, fedback or fedbacked?Feedbacked (294) 69% Fedback (120) 28% Fedbacked (13) 3% 427 total votes Your vote: Feedbacked, fedback or fedbacked? (Vote): Feedbacked
(Vote): Fedback
(Vote): Fedbacked
feedback
Pronunciation: /ˈfiːdbak/
noun
[mass noun]
1information about reactions to a product, a person’s performance of a task, etc. which is used as a basis for improvement.
2the modification or control of a process or system by its results or effects, for example in a biochemical pathway or behavioural response. See also negative feedback, positive feedback.
3the return of a fraction of the output signal from an amplifier, microphone, or other device to the input of the same device; sound distortion produced by this.
As defined by Oxford Advanced Learner's Dictionary, and essentially just repeated in Merriam Websters and Penguin's physical and online dictionaries. It now remains to conclude that feedback is never and likely never will be officially listed as a verb, seeing as controlling, not manipulating, a system by sheer will won't be possible anywhere but imaginary worlds, such as Aiur.
This means that when Day[9] asked if it was fedback or feedbacked, or fedbacked, it was neither. It's a culty slang word only used in very limited contexts, and it's the duty of the members of this culture to name it.
Thus I ask you all, is it feedbacked, fedback, fedbacked or none at all?
My vote is on fedback, with thoughts on the action itself. The High Templar "feeds" the internal systems of the, say, medivac, and overloads it by its own energy. The medivac is fed a signal that then carries out an intrinsic order in the, I assume, electronic system.
Feedbacked
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Feedback is a noun, which means it can't ever have an official past tense, right? I voted fedbacked, because I like unnecessary things.
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Feedback isnt a verb outside of SC so none.
"Received feedback" would be a correct useage, though feedbacked sounds the least wrong imo
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Feedbacked, because everything else sounds weird (regardless of whether or not it's grammatically correct).
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Took me ages to realize what this post is about... :F
Where is the problem to properly use the word feedback together with a verb as it is supposed to be?
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A full, grammatically correct sentence would be "(Insert unit or player A) cast (insert spell) on (insert unit or player B)!"
Because, technically, all(?) spells in SC2 are nouns, be it Feedback, Snipe (which doubles as a verb, conveniently enough), Fungal Growth, Psionic Storm, EMP (Electromagnetic Pulse), Seeker Missile.
But it's weird to say it all out so we just say (insert spell)'d something. So my vote is for Feedbacked.
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On April 14 2012 23:30 Eisregen wrote:
Took me ages to realize what this post is about... :F
Where is the problem to properly use the word feedback together with a verb as it is supposed to be?
SC2 is fast paced, and when Feedbacks are going down you can be assured that EMPs, Snipes, Fungals, and entire armies are dropping too. Gotta get those words in as quickly as possible.
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Geoge Carlin
Flammable, inflammable & nonflammable... Why are there three?
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Ok after all it seems, I still didnt get the content correctly LOL
Thought about giving feedback to someone, not the spell ingame... :F
And from a casters perspective, SC2 can be fast paced yes, but not anywhere near the constant speed of other games. So taking that into account, I guess myself would use "feedbacked" or just [insert random adjective] "feedback on x"
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None, cuz it isn't a verb...?
So whatever you do you'll be wrong : allow ALL the things in that case IMO. Whatever the casters say, it doesn't matter.
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Casted Feedback is the proper one. Feedback is a noun (says the non native yeah i know -.-")
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I agree fedback. To feed would be the verb, back would be an adverb, right? so in the case of nouns it is mothers-in-law, not mother-in-laws. Even though it is part of the same "phrase" it's the proper part of the phrase that is affected, either by tense or plurality. To to feed, he feeds, he fed, or fedback. Or else, I suppose the proper way would be to say "He used feedback on the medivac," but that's just lamesies.
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I don't really mind which one is used. I understand what they mean and that is enough for me. I dont really care what is the correct way of saying it. Maybe some do?
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Well, if talking about Starcraft, "feedbacked" looks the most correct.
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Feedbacked
Gues the verb would be "feedbacking" wich would make the past "feedbacked" according to general grammar rules i think?
Hmm ya you right, the right verb would be "casting feedback" as feedback itself is not a verb as others also said on this tread.
Was just going from the hypothetical verb "Feedbacking" and thinking what would be the past of "feedbacking" if it was an actual verb (wich it is not offcourse)
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On April 14 2012 23:52 Rassy wrote:
Feedbacked
Gues the verb would be "feedbacking" wich would make the past "feedbacked" according to general grammar rules i think?
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according to general grammar I think it would be Casting feedback or Using feedback
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Why not just say "and the medivacs were hit with a feedback" or "The feedback use in that last fight destroyed the Banshees"? I can't think of a situation where I'd naturally say "The Hight templar were feedbacked" for instance. Just sounds wrong.
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English, being the flexible language that it is, allows for immediate and painless shifts in grammatical category, so a noun like 'feedback' can easily become 'to feedback,' entering the same category as other compound or phrasal verbs such as 'bring up' that take the past form of the verb rather than add any additional inflections. 'Fedbacked' is completely wrong, 'feedbacked' is wrong but arguable, 'fedback' is perfect.
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Took feedback(s)
Recieved feedback(s)
Hit by Feedback
Why are we trying to innovate the english language? :S
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Whatever native speakers use the most, because they are the primary force behind creating and shaping a language.
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On April 14 2012 23:58 Warpath wrote:
Took feedback(s)
Recieved feedback(s)
Hit by Feedback
Why are we trying to innovate the english language? :S
^ or "used feedback on".
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procyonlotor Italy. April 14 2012 23:56. Posts 378
Hmm i do like this explanation and i now want to change to fedback also lol.
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Feedback is not a verb, it is a noun. Source.
For example, the high templar cast feedback on the ghost.
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Oh come on you grammar pedants, even Shakespeare loved verbing nouns. There's no harm in verbing feedback! (as long as the past tense isn't "fedbacked" :p)
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Learned English by myself (don't know the language rules really, learned from precedents) and I don't see how it can have past tense. Why even bother about such things if you can always incorporate it in a sentence where it can be used without awkward and most likely incorrect past tense.
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I have a feeling that considering the nature of the verb "to feedback" (being two words fused together) it would be said "Backfed".
Does this make any sense to anyone else?
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LOGICAL: mail -> email -> (emailed)
ILLOGICAL: mail -> mailed -> e-(mailed)
therefore feedback-ed.
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During a cast, the ones I hear the most are feedbacked and fedback, Im not much into grammar but I can sey that on the context were talkign about, feedback is a verb, the action to feedback an unit. Now, to the proper past tense, I have no dawn clue fo what it is.
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fed sounds so bah it reminds me on "fed up" and thats not flashy.
Feedback has a nice ring to it I think, but I have no clue what is correct english in this way.
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On April 15 2012 00:21 caradoc wrote:
LOGICAL: mail -> email -> (emailed)
ILLOGICAL: mail -> mailed -> e-(mailed)
therefore feedback-ed.
??? I don't think I understand it is supposed to be e-mail, but modern usage has made it email. The original idea was electronic-mail so now we use it as a verb as in to e-mail. to mail is still the verb so it is mail in e-mail that gets the ed. If we were to say it as it were originally meant, to go from a noun to a verb e (electronic) would need to be changed from an adjective (electronic) to and adverb (electronically) so, I electronically mailed it to you, or still e-mailed. So it still makes sense but not just because they threw ed on the end but because the ed makes the verb (to mail) past tense. As in the case of feedback, if ever that were to become a verb, to feed is the verb, so that would be what ought to be changed into the past tense (fed). But maybe I misunderstand completely what you are trying to say in which case, ignore me =^P
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Well, for the sake of brevity (and comic relief) I think we should just go with "fed" or "backed".
Although I think feedbacked would probably be most correct. It's consistant with the other spells. We say stormed, sniped and fungaled, so why not feedbacked? It doesn't have such a nice ring to it though.
Also, for fun:
feedback conjugaiton
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As my former roommate (English major) often says when I ask him a question like this: reword the sentence so it's not an issue.
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If we follow the morphological rules of 99.99% of English compounds, it is feedbacked. When you compound a word, you then ignore the inner structure of the word. It's a new word and you inflect it independently.
[feed] + [back] -> [feedback] -> [feedback]-ed
There's really no right or wrong with something like this, but feedbacked is by far more consistent with the rest of English's morphological rules.
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Feedback is a noun, not a verb. Therefore, no past tense i.e., none of the above.
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I think it can be a noun or verd (or, at least, it works as both).
"I use Feedback," or, "I will Feedback you." I voted, "Fedback," because it just kinda sounds correct to me.
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Feedback is a spell, it's an action that's taken. Why is everyone calling it a noun?
Feed is a verb too right?
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I like "Feedbacked," because we're verbing the noun "Feedback" and then setting it to past tense. This is also why I prefer Feedbacking to Feedingback.
I like the idea of coining our own phrase for it, because frankly e-Sports language is still far too easy for a casual observer to understand and I'm a hipster. (Sarcasm, please don't think I'm trying to make SC2 less-accessible.)
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On April 15 2012 01:58 liberal wrote:
Feedback is a spell, it's an action that's taken. Why is everyone calling it a noun?
Feed is a verb too right?
He lightning bolted the guy to the face.
That would be correct as well right? Since Lightning Bolt is a spell.
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On April 15 2012 01:48 TALegion wrote:
I think it can be a noun or verd (or, at least, it works as both).
"I use Feedback," or, "I will Feedback you." I voted, "Fedback," because it just kinda sounds correct to me.
Doesn't really matter if it sounds right, it's wrong. It's a noun, not a verb, no matter what people say.
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On April 15 2012 00:00 Plague1503 wrote:
Whatever native speakers use the most, because they are the primary force behind creating and shaping a language.
I appreciate the vote of confidence, but your post is the most wrong (to me) out of everyone's. There are a few of us that know english (thanks), but most of us are terrible at it. Leave it to the people that know what's up, please. If you put the fate of the english language to a typical american (blizz is in u.s., that's why I chose it), it would lose all coherence in a couple generations.
As pretty much everyone has mentioned already, and funnily enough, the guy from China has been speaking the most accurately, "Feedback" is a noun.
However, since that word is just made up anyway, if we wanted to turn it into a verb as well and use it in past tense, "Fedback" is the most logical to me. You'd really have to ask Blizzard what language of origin they were thinking when they were coining it. It could go either way.
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On April 15 2012 02:40 danl9rm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 00:00 Plague1503 wrote:
Whatever native speakers use the most, because they are the primary force behind creating and shaping a language. I appreciate the vote of confidence, but your post is the most wrong (to me) out of everyone's. There are a few of us that know english (thanks), but most of us are terrible at it. Leave it to the people that know what's up, please. If you put the fate of the english language to a typical american (blizz is in u.s., that's why I chose it), it would lose all coherence in a couple generations. As pretty much everyone has mentioned already, and funnily enough, the guy from China has been speaking the most accurately, "Feedback" is a noun. However, since that word is just made up anyway, if we wanted to turn it into a verb as well and use it in past tense, "Fedback" is the most logical to me. You'd really have to ask Blizzard what language of origin they were thinking when they were coining it. It could go either way.
Sorry, but this is just wildly inaccurate. Language did not evolve and gain "coherence" by having a bunch of pedants enforce arbitrary rules. It has always moved with popular forces and been far more useful for having done so. English is great at verbing nouns. You only decrease its utility by placing a pointless restriction on that.
As for the question at hand, Befree is right about typical English compound morphology. Just as a group of Sabertooth tigers is a group of Sabertooths (not Saberteeth), one would expect 'feedback' to inflect independently of 'feed'.
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Bagpack is (was) a noun too. English turns nouns into verbs and verbs into nouns.
However I'm thinking that the past tense of feedback should be similar to other phrasal verbs and it should be fedback (eg bring back, pack up, keep up)
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On April 15 2012 02:52 JieXian wrote:
Bagpack is (was) a noun too. English turns nouns into verbs and verbs into nouns.
However I'm thinking that the past tense of feedback should be similar to other phrasal verbs and it should be fedback (eg bring back, pack up, keep up)
You're thinking of "bagpack" as in "bagpacking", that's a concept. Hypothetically speaking "bagpacking" has nothing to do with the word "bagpack"
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On April 15 2012 03:00 Pantythief wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 02:52 JieXian wrote:
Bagpack is (was) a noun too. English turns nouns into verbs and verbs into nouns.
However I'm thinking that the past tense of feedback should be similar to other phrasal verbs and it should be fedback (eg bring back, pack up, keep up) You're thinking of "bagpack" as in "bagpacking", that's a concept. Hypothetically speaking "bagpacking" has nothing to do with the word "bagpack"
I think he means "backpack."
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Going strong with fedbacked!
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I think feedbacked is most correct, but fedback sounds the coolest :D
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Yeah, except, "feedback" is the word to use, not "feedbacked." 
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On April 15 2012 00:21 caradoc wrote:
LOGICAL: mail -> email -> (emailed)
ILLOGICAL: mail -> mailed -> e-(mailed)
therefore feedback-ed.
You realize mail is both a noun and a verb, right? I have mail. I mailed him a letter.
Feedback is only a noun. As in: "Read my essay and give me feedback, please."
The response is: "Okay, I gave you feedback."
You can tell your teacher: "I talked to a friend and used his feedback to help adjust the aim of my essay."
"The high templar used feedback." Done.
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On April 14 2012 23:56 Iyerbeth wrote:
Why not just say "and the medivacs were hit with a feedback" or "The feedback use in that last fight destroyed the Banshees"? I can't think of a situation where I'd naturally say "The Hight templar were feedbacked" for instance. Just sounds wrong.
Yup. Really there should be no use for any of these "new" forms of the word feedback, there's a plethora of ways to get around it.
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On April 15 2012 03:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 00:21 caradoc wrote:
LOGICAL: mail -> email -> (emailed)
ILLOGICAL: mail -> mailed -> e-(mailed)
therefore feedback-ed. You realize mail is both a noun and a verb, right? I have mail. I mailed him a letter. Feedback is only a noun. As in: "Read my essay and give me feedback, please." The response is: "Okay, I gave you feedback." You can tell your teacher: "I talked to a friend and used his feedback to help adjust the aim of my essay." "The high templar used feedback." Done.
Except that's not the sense of the word 'feedback' that the spell is. The spell is talking about when you put your microphone too close to the speaker, or more generally "the return of a portion of the output of a process or system to the input". This doesn't change the fact that it is still only a noun in common english, but there's no reason we shouldn't use it as a verb if our community of language users decides that that is the most natural thing to do.
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This settles it.
Was a clear case anyway though.
Fedbacked is just retarded.
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On April 15 2012 03:57 Blennd wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 03:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 15 2012 00:21 caradoc wrote:
LOGICAL: mail -> email -> (emailed)
ILLOGICAL: mail -> mailed -> e-(mailed)
therefore feedback-ed. You realize mail is both a noun and a verb, right? I have mail. I mailed him a letter. Feedback is only a noun. As in: "Read my essay and give me feedback, please." The response is: "Okay, I gave you feedback." You can tell your teacher: "I talked to a friend and used his feedback to help adjust the aim of my essay." "The high templar used feedback." Done. Except that's not the sense of the word 'feedback' that the spell is. The spell is talking about when you put your microphone too close to the speaker, or more generally "the return of a portion of the output of a process or system to the input". This doesn't change the fact that it is still only a noun in common english, but there's no reason we shouldn't use it as a verb if our community of language users decides that that is the most natural thing to do.
I know, which is why- from an English perspective- I'm of the position that it should only be used as a noun, (i.e. "Look at those Feedbacks!"), although I'm not going to go write a death note to the caster if he says Feedbacked or something else (let's face it- we've heard much worse mispronunciations of words that even currently exist inside of the game).
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On April 15 2012 04:01 Redox wrote:This settles it. Was a clear case anyway though. Fedbacked is just retarded.
So the rules of English language does not apply if Wikipedia says so?
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I only use feedback as a noun i.e. the medivac was hit with feedback
he used feedback on the medivac
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You can create a verb of any noun, so that is a non-issue. Therefore, the correct usage is "feedbacked" as others have explained.
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On April 15 2012 04:31 supereddie wrote:
You can create a verb of any noun, so that is a non-issue. Therefore, the correct usage is "feedbacked" as others have explained.
Well I suppose you could create an adjective or a verb or any other part of speech out of a noun, but that hypothetical nonsense doesn't make it an established word lol.
Dude, you're so feedbacky today.
My brothers' names are Andrew, Bob, feedback Charlie.
What.
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"got hit by Feedback" is sorta good. Just think of it as "got hit by a electricity" or something.
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Voted fedback, because dammit... you can take my irregular verbs when you pry them from my cold, dead hands! Besides, it's a composite of the verb feed, and an adverbial back. You fed the power back into the system.
*Note: I voted on this just after I lit my cigarette, which was after I fed my cat.
Edit: Also... ON TO EDIT WIKIPEDIA!
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It seems that the majority of the comments are completely avoiding the point of my post - I'm entirely aware that feedback is not a verb, and cannot have a past tense.
Hello Captain Obvious.
The idea was to verbalize it, to make it a verb, to make it something that it isn't already so that in our culty and very limited cultural context, we have a word to use, when we do not wish to say "got to be the victim of feedback" or, "received feedback" or any other such float-around description of what happened.
Verbalize wasn't a word until recent years, it is now, because the idea of a dictionary or accepting words into entire societies at once with a consensus wasn't possible until the world was globalized in the way it is now. Back then, people weren't at all surprised to meet a language barrier when travelling from one part of a country to another, or to read a text full of words they never knew before. Today we have dictionaries to help us avoid misunderstandings and mending language barriers, but fact is, in our nice little sub-culture of the gaming culture, we have an ill-defined thing.
Feedbacking. By High Templars.
Time to define it, I'd say. I'd fully appreciate anyone arguing against me, but if you're about to wave your secondary education about and state that feedback isn't a verb, please don't. It's embarassing for everyone, including you, whether you realize it or not.
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On April 15 2012 04:42 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 04:31 supereddie wrote:
You can create a verb of any noun, so that is a non-issue. Therefore, the correct usage is "feedbacked" as others have explained. Well I suppose you could create an adjective or a verb or any other part of speech out of a noun, but that hypothetical nonsense doesn't make it an established word lol. Dude, you're so feedbacky today. My brothers' names are Andrew, Bob, feedback Charlie. What.
While it may seem unnatural, it is actually valid (well, I am not a native english speaker, so what do I know?).
Compare it to:
skateboard -> skateboarding (I am skateboarding tomorrow; I skateboarded yesterday)
backpack -> backpacking (I am backpacking next year; I backpacked last year)
feedback -> feedbacking (I am feedbacking that medivac; I feedbacked that medivac)
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Why isn't anyone considering 'fed back'? ie, the high templar fed the ghost's energy back to him. Saying it in a sentence like that is cumbersome so I'd just go with the way Tastosis does it: "ghost getting fed back..."
If the unit dies, it's even simpler: "...ghost dying to feedback..."
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After reading Feedback to many times it has lost it's meaning and my head hurts.
Also I go with Feedbacked...ah my brain
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"The high templars used feedback!"
It's a noun. The problem is that the english language hasn't "evolved" or "changed," it's just that everyone slowly accepts the misnomers, mispronunciations, misspellings, and cutesy new words like "googled."
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On April 15 2012 03:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 00:21 caradoc wrote:
LOGICAL: mail -> email -> (emailed)
ILLOGICAL: mail -> mailed -> e-(mailed)
therefore feedback-ed. You realize mail is both a noun and a verb, right? I have mail. I mailed him a letter. Feedback is only a noun. As in: "Read my essay and give me feedback, please." The response is: "Okay, I gave you feedback." You can tell your teacher: "I talked to a friend and used his feedback to help adjust the aim of my essay." "The high templar used feedback." Done.
feedback is a noun ('feedback costs 50 energy'), then it undergoes a zero derivation category change to be a verb, ('he's going to feedback those medivacs'), then that verb takes -ed inflection as a past tense, feedbacked. In the 'feedback' verb, 'feed' is not the verb, the entire word 'feedback' is.
In order for it to be 'fedback', the word 'feed' in 'feedback' would need to be a verb, but that is pretty counterintuitive, since 'feedback' as we use it in sc2 isn't derived from the meaning of 'feed' + 'back', it's semantically its own entity, and although we can see that its partly derived from the words feed and back, it carries a lot of its own semantic meaning that's unique to 'feedback' as a unit.
Of course as others point out, this is just more consistent, there isn't a right or wrong really, it's how people talk.
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Well regardless of English grammar rules, in game, "feedback" is a noun only. There is no verb form of it in game. Thus, it must be treated as a noun.
Edit: The post above me explains this in more detail. I am lazy today.
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I say both feedbacked and fedback, but I vote overall for fedbacked.
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Feedback, in this case, is the name of a spell and is therefore a noun. "Used feedback" is what you're supposed to use.
We used it as a noun.
We nouned it.
See how awkward and stupid the 2nd sentence is?
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On April 15 2012 06:30 MichaelDonovan wrote:
Well regardless of English grammar rules, in game, "feedback" is a noun only. There is no verb form of it in game. Thus, it must be treated as a noun.
Edit: The post above me explains this in more detail. I am lazy today.
The post above you came to the exact opposite conclusion.
I thought prescriptivism was dead, but it's sadly thriving here at TL.
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It should be fedback. Simply because literally, you are feeding something back into something - it is fed back. HTs short-circuit the energy in casters, making it evaporate violently and dealing damage to the mind/body of them. To quote Wikipedia, "A feedback loop is created when all or some portion of the output from an electronic device is fed-back to the input.". This is what it is.
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Feedbacked because the verb is "to feedback" and not "to feed_back". Simple logic.
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The way I see it, Feedback came from Feed-back, as in the operator feeds something in, and the operation "feeds back" information. Since it came from a phrase (IMO), it seems most reasonable that in order to make the phrase in the perfect tense, you would only change the verb part of the phrase. Thus it should be "fed-back", so I voted for "fedback".
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It's feedbacked if anything.
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uhm whats about it being irregular and just stays "feedback" even in past tense? (like cut, put)
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They all sound so wrong, lol.
Feedbacked looks and sounds the most appropriate, since we're making up a word it's probably best to have it be self explanatory/tag on an adverb.
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Oh dear lord, it continues.
We need to get some facts straight:
Feedback is derived from having something fed back, i.e. getting comments in turn for your paper from your teacher, or receiving sound from an amplifier system from sound (or indeed as it is, just waves) already inputted. Yes, inputted is a word. I.E., using feedback on someone means that that certain someone, is being fed back. This is what I stated in my argumentation over voting fedback myself.
Verbalized and nouned is also both words (I assure you), and neither are groundbreaking and/or violating of the english language. Shakespeare verbalized countless nouns to clarify what he meant in a certain context. This is what's happening again. With feedback. In Starcraft.
EDIT: Changed "verbs" to "nouns" in the last paragraph. Mistake on my part.
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If tasteless can "segway" onto the nextgame, those medivacs were sure as hell feedbacked, imo.
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Definitely not the third option.
I prefer feedbacked.
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Backfed, kind of like fatback, but backwards and with feed.
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In any context outside of Starcraft, obviously it should be fed back. For the ability, feedbacked.
However I also would say locked down, not lockdowned. So it's not a hard rule for what sounds right but it makes sense to treat these words as verbs in this general context. I'd definitely rather say yamatoed, stormed, not always "used the yamato ability" or "casted psi storm."
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it's clearly fedbuck, makes the most sense
please learn to speak starcraft people
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Feedback is a noun, not a verb, it has no past tense, no conjugations.
It should be something like "received feedback" or "suffered feedback" or "that high templar induced feedback!".
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This discussion made me think of a cow vomiting up her food to give to her babies. Gross.
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On April 15 2012 09:52 Audemed wrote:
If tasteless can "segway" onto the nextgame, those medivacs were sure as hell feedbacked, imo.
LOL
Definition of "Segue"
If you pay close attention, you'll notice that this word is derived from an Italian word. Not from a stupid little cart-thing. This made my day BTW
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The ghosts get f'ed just before the fight.
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On April 15 2012 04:11 Pantythief wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 04:01 Redox wrote:This settles it. Was a clear case anyway though. Fedbacked is just retarded. So the rules of English language does not apply if Wikipedia says so?
The rules of English are usually explained by dictionaries, wiktionary is one of these and it isn't considered a bad dictionary.
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Let's do the complete opposite of the past tense conventions! Let's add -ed to "feed" and mutate the vowel in "back". Therefore, "feededbeck"! "Man look at the ghost. He got feededbeck."
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I read about this in Steven Pinker's book The Language Instinct, the basic idea is that when a newly coined word is not based on the original meaning of the words it is made up of, it doesn't carry the same transformations as the original words and is instead treated using the general rules of the language (ie: add "-ed" for past tense)
So for example:
overshoot --> overshot, not overshooted, because overshooting is a kind of shooting so it carries the same properties as shoot
fly out (from baseball) --> flied out, not flew out, because the meaning is different, so the rule fly --> flew doesn't apply
Based on this logic, feedback --> feedbacked, because the word feedback is unrelated to the original meaning of feed
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On April 15 2012 02:40 danl9rm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 00:00 Plague1503 wrote:
Whatever native speakers use the most, because they are the primary force behind creating and shaping a language. I appreciate the vote of confidence, but your post is the most wrong (to me) out of everyone's. There are a few of us that know english (thanks), but most of us are terrible at it. Leave it to the people that know what's up, please. If you put the fate of the english language to a typical american (blizz is in u.s., that's why I chose it), it would lose all coherence in a couple generations. As pretty much everyone has mentioned already, and funnily enough, the guy from China has been speaking the most accurately, "Feedback" is a noun. However, since that word is just made up anyway, if we wanted to turn it into a verb as well and use it in past tense, "Fedback" is the most logical to me. You'd really have to ask Blizzard what language of origin they were thinking when they were coining it. It could go either way.
To claim that language should be prescribed rather than described is wrong and (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linguistic_prescription) in extreme instances can be dangerous to the freedom of speech  Speakers of a certain language are the only ones who can distinguish what is grammatical from what isn't. Language is a changing entity, constantly evolving and shaping in society and dictionaries don't exist to invent languages but rather document them At least that is my belief after 3 years of studying linguistics and English, and also ofc there are those who challenge that model as well, it just makes the most sense to me (how it SHOULD be).
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On April 15 2012 13:29 Mordanis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 09:52 Audemed wrote:
If tasteless can "segway" onto the nextgame, those medivacs were sure as hell feedbacked, imo. LOL Definition of "Segue"If you pay close attention, you'll notice that this word is derived from an Italian word. Not from a stupid little cart-thing. This made my day BTW
O.o
You learn something every day.
Well, not really....but those days you do it's cool.
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On April 15 2012 13:29 Mordanis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 09:52 Audemed wrote:
If tasteless can "segway" onto the nextgame, those medivacs were sure as hell feedbacked, imo. LOL Definition of "Segue"If you pay close attention, you'll notice that this word is derived from an Italian word. Not from a stupid little cart-thing. This made my day BTW
the cart thing's name was derived from 'segue', it references a spatial dimension to the meaning of the original word.
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I think we need a new grammar structure because we have a noun(ability) that implies an action(verb). It's a noun/verb.
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Fedback instinctually makes sense to me, not that its a word whose usage I would frequent, but feed - present tense, fed - past tense.
feedback, present..... fedback past... seems kinda self explanatory to me but I may be missing something.
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Feedbacked. Been saying it liked that since SCBW.
Fedback doesn't make any sense. Fedbacked is just crazy.
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On April 15 2012 03:03 maartendq wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2012 03:00 Pantythief wrote:On April 15 2012 02:52 JieXian wrote:
Bagpack is (was) a noun too. English turns nouns into verbs and verbs into nouns.
However I'm thinking that the past tense of feedback should be similar to other phrasal verbs and it should be fedback (eg bring back, pack up, keep up) You're thinking of "bagpack" as in "bagpacking", that's a concept. Hypothetically speaking "bagpacking" has nothing to do with the word "bagpack" I think he means "backpack."
yes :D
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There's been reached a consensus I do believe, on TeamLiquid forums. I've also posted on my own clan, sort of community's, Mixed Fruit, forums and gotten likewise results. If you'd care to post it on your own community forums please do and make it known if your results differ.
The thing I do see missing is the official SC2 forums, both NA and EU and so on, but I have not been able to make a poll there and I myself obviously only have access to European battle.net sites. Perhaps someone knows a nice solution?
Otherwise, it's feedbacked for me from now on, and I do hope you all will accept it as the "real" term.
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Fedback makes the most sense, using the "feed" part of the word as the verb.
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Medivac: I'm not so sure about my driving skills, do you think you could help me, Mr. HT?
High Templar: Sure! I think you shouldn't drive near turrets, as those pose great danger to yourself and passengers.
Medivac: Thank you for giving me that marvelous feedback, HT!
Gave feedback. Received feedback.
In the end it doesn't matter because we use millions of terms incorrectly anyway. Stormed(should be create a psionic storm, or has been hit by said storm), EMP'd (Electro-magnetic Pulse, was hit by a "" "") , Yamato'd ( >_>), Seeker'ed (yea, it's gettin worse), Dropped (should be dropped troops upon ), etc etc etc
Thing is, all of this is jargon. Sure, we could argue about whether "Stim" is supposed to mean "a small amount" or "A stimulant" (or, if blizz is genius, both). But in the end it doesn't matter because in Starcraft the word means -10hp +10AtkSpeed. And if it helps us to create a jargon which facilitates the transfer of information, to ease discussion of Starcraft and simplify it as well, then it has served its purpose.
If you are a sound technician or an electrical engineer, go ahead, say "The High Templar created a feedback loop within the electrical circuits within the medivac, thereby damaging it and draining it of usable energy." The rest of us will continue saying, "The Medivac got fedback energy" and be content. Cuz neither one, makes any fuckin sense and, it don't matter to be correct,
+ Show Spoiler +If we're making feedback a verb, the correct term is fedback, btw
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On April 18 2012 00:45 MFVain wrote:
There's been reached a consensus I do believe, on TeamLiquid forums. I've also posted on my own clan, sort of community's, Mixed Fruit, forums and gotten likewise results. If you'd care to post it on your own community forums please do and make it known if your results differ.
The thing I do see missing is the official SC2 forums, both NA and EU and so on, but I have not been able to make a poll there and I myself obviously only have access to European battle.net sites. Perhaps someone knows a nice solution?
Otherwise, it's feedbacked for me from now on, and I do hope you all will accept it as the "real" term.
It's not the real term, though. The real term is "feedback." This is English.
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If enough people start using it, even in a certain community, it will become a "real term". How can you define a "real term"? The one which is in the dictionary or the one that most people are actually using? Kinda like I would say Colossi is being used indiscriminately for both the singular and the plural form, even though it's "incorrect" to use it for singular (within the casting/SC2 community ofc, not the mainstream). Language is both arbitrary and conventional.
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It should be "feedbacked" imho. Why make it an irregular verb?
"Fedbacked" is retarded.
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If you think a word is what's defined in a dictionary you've got it backwards. Words are what's spoken in an everyday context.
Dictionaries only categorizes words in the same sense that a map only contains geographical information. To say that "feedbacked" isn't a proper word because it isn't defined in a dictionary is like saying that a particular forest trail doesn't exist because you can't find it on a map.
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I personally like fedbacked, and I could really care less what its supposed to be! Especially if we have other stupid terms like "manner". You can be well mannered or poorly mannered, but just manner is pretty stupid, especially since so many people use it in a serious tone... it would be different if they said it to be funny.
As a side note, I saw tastosis last week casting some blink stalker action. Tasteless remarked that the protoss just "blunk right on top" of the terran to which artosis replied "Yeah, he got blunked on". LOL, I found it hilarious. Even more reason to call it fedbacked, as long as you know it sounds silly :p
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fudback
Pronounced fødd-bach (as in the composer)
Alternatively fudbeck.
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I think I like Feedbacked the best, but all are kinda akward haha
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On April 14 2012 23:25 Shockk wrote:
Feedbacked, because everything else sounds weird (regardless of whether or not it's grammatically correct).
This ^^ Glad we're clearing this up =P
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I agree, "feedbacked" sounds the best out of them.
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