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paralleluniverse
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10:08 Amy Howe: The individual mandate survives as a tax. 10:09 Amy Howe: It's very complicated, so we're still figuring it out. 10:10 Kali: We are still here. Don't worry. 10:10 Tom: So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
Tom: So the mandate is constitutional. Chief Justice Roberts joins the left of the Court. Via CNN Individual mandate struck down Huh? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On June 28 2012 23:11 ghost_403 wrote: Via scotusBlog Via CNN Huh? It will take 30 mins or so for everyone to figure it out. Just give it some time. | ||
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Signet
United States1718 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
Take your healthcare and enjoy it, you stinking bastards! | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On June 28 2012 23:12 xDaunt wrote: Wow. Well, you were dead wrong. But even I'm surprised it survived. I thought it was unlikely to survive. This is very good. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
ghost_403 begins foaming at the mouth | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On June 28 2012 23:13 Defacer wrote: BOOM! Take your healthcare and enjoy it, you stinking bastards! HAHAHAHA. Yes, indeed. Welcome to the rest of the civilized world. SCOTUSBlog: 10:13 Tom: The bottom line: the entire ACA is upheld, with the exception that the federal government's power to terminate states' Medicaid funds is narrowly read. | ||
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Thorakh
Netherlands1788 Posts
On June 28 2012 23:08 xDaunt wrote: We in the Netherlands have to buy health insurance. Never has something been proposed that makes us buy a product that is not useful to everyone. You're just scare mongering.No, his argument is not about healthcare. Go re-read it again: "It just sets a bad precedent, because if they find this legal, the next time they use this method it may not be on a product as useful to everyone." Basic health insurance (which covers everything a person needs) costs me about €100/month which is about $125. How much does such insurance costs in the US? | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On June 28 2012 23:15 Thorakh wrote: We in the Netherlands have to buy health insurance. Never has something been proposed that makes us buy a product that is not useful to everyone. You're just scare mongering. You're missing the point so badly that it is hilarious. | ||
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iamperfection
United States9645 Posts
I'm guessing their is no exact definition of what a "tax" can be considered so thats where they found the wiggle room? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
A quick overview of the ruling: A divided Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of the Obama administration’s health-care law, in one of the most anticipated high-court rulings in a generation. The court said Congress was acting within its powers under the Constitution when it required most Americans to carry health insurance or pay a penalty—the provision at the center of the two-year legal battle. It upheld the mandate as a tax, in an opinion by Chief Justice John Roberts. Time for the tea party to start marching on the white house. | ||
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paralleluniverse
4065 Posts
On June 28 2012 23:16 xDaunt wrote: You're missing the point so badly that it is hilarious. That is exactly the point. It's an argument about precedents. The argument wasn't based on whether it was constitutional or whether it's good public policy. The argument was that this is a slippery slope, but it's never been a slippery slope in any other country with universal coverage. | ||
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ghost_403
United States1825 Posts
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Defacer
Canada5052 Posts
On June 28 2012 23:15 Thorakh wrote: We in the Netherlands have to buy health insurance. Never has something been proposed that makes us buy a product that is not useful to everyone. You're just scare mongering. Only is in the US are people this paranoid and have this little faith in actual democracy and their government. Today they're making us by healthcare, tomorrow, they'll make us buy broccolli! But seriously, when you follow American's politics long enough, it's hard not to be skeptical. Anyway, I think even the though the individual mandate is a clunky mechanism of expanding the risk pool so that health insurers can provide better coverage, it's a step. The American Health Care system needs serious reform. | ||
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