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SomniGiggles
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom214 Posts
February 03 2012 13:57 GMT
#101
OH LOOK! Another thing that we have been doing countless years that is now suddenly bad for us. Quick guys get more starcraft in before there is a ban on using the mouse due to 1% of users getting diarrhoea >
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 03 2012 13:58 GMT
#102
Great story! Although I think everyone already knows that wood fires are actually bad for you, that's why you need to have a fireplace that doesn't allow the smoke to come into your house and you shouldn't make fire when the smoke doesn't travel up and away (you need high air pressure and a wind). I'll keep on enjoying occasional fires, but that's because our house is well placed in the middle of nowhere, and the fireplace is all behind steel and glass. I also wouldn't mind having a god safely tucked away behind scientific bars
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
February 03 2012 14:11 GMT
#103
Well obvious-fucking-ly if you shove your head in a chimney it's about a thousand times as bad as smoking cigarettes. At least cigarettes are made to be smoked.

This is ridiculous. I grew up in a house heated by firewood and I never got any breathing disease.

Pizza is a vegetable
Sugar is Toxic
Firewood is the seed of the apocalypse.

No. Request denied.
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ravemir
Profile Joined April 2011
Portugal595 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 14:13:15
February 03 2012 14:12 GMT
#104
Shit...I was working up the healthy habit of making a 30 min jog every other day, but I was thinking about moving my circuit to include an outer neighborhood, in order to breathe less automobile smoke. I was wondering if the fireplace smoke scent I frequently felt in the air had any adverse effects, but I was convinced it was was way better than running alongside a busy street: turns out I was completely wrong.

Now even more reasons not to light our fireplace, on top of even being cheaper to use an oil-radiator.
"more gg, more skill"
Deleted_143
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 14:20:18
February 03 2012 14:13 GMT
#105
--- Nuked ---
Bleak
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Turkey3059 Posts
February 03 2012 14:15 GMT
#106
Meh, almost anything is harmful to our body anyways. If we can't even burn wood for heating for fear of cancer, we might just as well quit living.
"I am a beacon of knowledge blazing out across a black sea of ignorance. "
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
February 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#107
Funny article.
Agree until the 'moral certainty'. Fundamentally, science does not provide moral truths, only ambiguously provides a fundament for certain points of view. He falls into his own trap.
Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 14:18:54
February 03 2012 14:18 GMT
#108
Lulz, of course smoke is bad to breathe. The good news is that modern wood burning stoves and inserts do not emit gasses into the living area, and emit very little unburned hydrocarbons into the atmosphere due to higher combustion zone temperatures.
Turn off the radio
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
February 03 2012 14:20 GMT
#109
Do young people in America of average intelligence really believe in christianity?
I am asking because this is so unimagineable for me in germany. I can honestly say that I know only of two people that I met in my whole life that truely beliefe in it. Both are girls and one of them is retarded.
Maybe some more would like to believe in it because they like the idea but can't because their intelligence prevents them to. Some other practice it out of tradition. Also I don't know a single guy that cares for religion.
-_-Quails
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia796 Posts
February 03 2012 14:24 GMT
#110
On February 03 2012 23:11 Krowser wrote:
This is ridiculous. I grew up in a house heated by firewood and I never got any breathing disease.

I jaywalked across highways many times while growing up and I never got run over.
Your point?
"I post only when my brain works." - Reaper9
bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
February 03 2012 14:26 GMT
#111
This thread should follow the naming convention of the other one.

Smoke is TOXIN - scientists
Stay a while and listen || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=354018
Krowser
Profile Joined August 2007
Canada788 Posts
February 03 2012 14:27 GMT
#112
On February 03 2012 23:13 Klesky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2012 23:11 Krowser wrote:
Well obvious-fucking-ly if you shove your head in a chimney it's about a thousand times as bad as smoking cigarettes. At least cigarettes are made to be smoked.

This is ridiculous. I grew up in a house heated by firewood and I never got any breathing disease.

Pizza is a vegetable
Sugar is Toxic
Firewood is the seed of the apocalypse.

No. Request denied.


Did you even read any of this thread? The article? Anything? If you did, I'm terribly sorry but you missed the entire point of it. It's a metaphor used to show how we are inherently resistant to facts that contradict our own beliefs, to such an extent that we actively deny and ignore the facts to continue believing what we want to believe.

edit: probably too harsh.


I read the thread and I agree with the point about resisting religious arguments but considering the recent string of baffling political events in the US, I still stand by my post. Firewood smoke is no worse that everything else we're already breathing.
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bonifaceviii
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada2890 Posts
February 03 2012 14:28 GMT
#113
On February 03 2012 23:27 Krowser wrote:
Firewood smoke is no worse that everything else we're already breathing.

True that. My condo is smack-dab between a railway corridor and an expressway. I ain't afraid of no smoke.
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MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 14:42:14
February 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#114
Well first off he is a neruoscientist ... they ar a group that operates on a whole class of assumptions that philisophically mean hes inferring all kinds of bullshit from vague correlations. It is one thing to realise which areas of the brain do work during an operation it is quite another to then assume you can infer anything about 'how' things work. Evidence of what i am talking about is that a *lot* of their work has been shown to be false as they didnt ascertain their base levels properly adn most experiements have been based on false assumptions.

He is also an atheist which tells me he looked at the arguments for god, decided that you couldnt answer the question (or misunderstood the arguments) and then decided to give a positive answer anyway.

When you take those 2 things in conjunction you shuold just stop reading.

As for how wood smoke makes me feel? I smoke, but i dont smoke sticks because the smoke is really harsh. So does it suprise me? Not at all. But then again i havent tried smoking a particular blend of wood smoke from a blend of dried woods wrapped in a specific kind of paper that has been refined into something that is enjoyuable to smoke.

So once again its a neurologist operating from a set of really bad assumptions to make a point that is not in any way objective or meaningful.


You grew up in a house with firewood - that presumably had a chimney. Also most people when i was a kid had the same ... the point is that you therefor don't have a baseline to measure against - because *everyone* is under the same considerations. That would be like only studying people with neurological conditions or assuming that you can somehow map neurons firing to a thought process in something that is doing a million things at once and somehow build a causal picture of how it works (when the process of gathering statistical data specifically precludes anything other than being able to say that this is likely to be causal - but we dont know why - to a 95% chance)
sukarestu
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia40 Posts
February 03 2012 14:37 GMT
#115
Lol... seriously?
Obviously gases from burnt wood is going to be harmful
Nothing new.. but saying the wood smoke is worse than cigarettes is just stupid
Cigarettes are directly inhaled not many people stand to the direction of the smoke in a fireplace to sniff up all the smoke.... only the retards.. only.
I hate how health hazards are being so exaggerated by scientific notes, simply cause of things like this..
Especially those cancer related problems... *hint* "Mobile phones give you cancer"
Another example of technically true.. but probability.. very low
Gnosis
Profile Joined December 2008
Scotland912 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 14:41:15
February 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#116
This article isn't about burning wood, and even if it was, do people seriously think that lighting fires and inhaling the smoke that rises from it is a good idea? And here I thought burning eyes and throat were an indication of the health of fire-smoke /sarcasm.
"Reason is flawless, de jure, but reasoners are not, de facto." – Peter Kreeft
Euronyme
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden3804 Posts
February 03 2012 14:38 GMT
#117
On February 03 2012 23:26 bonifaceviii wrote:
This thread should follow the naming convention of the other one.

Smoke is TOXIN - scientists


Scientists seems to have gone all out captain obvious on us lately ^_^
Everyone knows that when there's a house fire, the smoke kills you - not the fire.
I bet i can maı̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̸̨̨̨̨̨̨ke you wipe your screen.
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 14:43:22
February 03 2012 14:42 GMT
#118
And here I thought the people that's been "smoke-poisoned" in fires was only imagining things.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
MrTortoise
Profile Joined January 2011
1388 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-03 14:48:04
February 03 2012 14:44 GMT
#119
The point of this is that we are so against cigarette smoke but people dont realise that there already a lot of nasty stuff atround and cigarette smoke has really got an overly bad press.

So we eradicate one source of small scale pollution but totally ignore the millions of others around us all the time.


Running and smoking doesnt mix ... so why do people run beside roads with traffic? You may as well sit at home go on a running machine then have a fag after. Yet those runners will feel like they are being better than me.


Klesky: No, probably not too harsh ;p if people cant read calling them names in text really isn't that harsh.


vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
February 03 2012 14:56 GMT
#120
i think a few people missed the point...
lol
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