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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12058 Posts
January 31 2012 11:21 GMT
#61
I don't think it is in any way relevant whether or not the joke was funny.

I am really interested if they could sue the USA for that, but they would probably need to go to the US to do so, and i doubt one of those two will ever go there again. I am quite sure that i wouldn't.

So, if you want to go to america, you need to be very careful what you say, always and everywhere, since apparently even making the wrong jokes can get you put in prison and/or get kicked out of the country easily if you get denounced by someone. Does not sound like a fun place for tourists.
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
January 31 2012 11:22 GMT
#62
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Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
January 31 2012 11:22 GMT
#63
hahahah holy shit that was fucking funny just shows how everything is a serious threat
Forever Mirin Zyzz Son of Zeus Brother of Hercules Father of the Aesthetics
ReboundEU
Profile Joined September 2010
508 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 11:24:14
January 31 2012 11:22 GMT
#64
On January 31 2012 20:18 don_kyuhote wrote:
tweet "I'm going to bomb London during the Olympic" before you go to UK and find out what happens.


I bet u anything it FIRST gets investigated to see if it's a genuine terrorist action and not some bad joke....THEN take action if it turns out to be real...and potentionally dangerous + it's not even the same thing....i bet "real terrosists" all want to "bomb america" and then go dig up Marilyn Monroe....yea..it's standard for them right? It was a joke from miles away. Was it a bad joke? Ofc yea....was the reaction as bad as the joke? ATLEAST
U MAD BRO?
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
January 31 2012 11:26 GMT
#65
On January 31 2012 20:22 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 20:18 don_kyuhote wrote:
tweet "I'm going to bomb London during the Olympic" before you go to UK and find out what happens.

Because that's definitely the same thing.


It is...
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
January 31 2012 11:27 GMT
#66
On January 31 2012 20:18 SolHeiM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 20:16 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
On January 31 2012 20:15 xrapture wrote:
So if someone tweets they are going to destroy America before they fly in from a foreign country, Homeland Security shouldn't even bat an eyelash?


Technically they shouldn't be monitoring twitter, its illegal.


What? You're putting it out there for the public to see. How is it "illegal"?

Please, enlighten me.


There is no authority under the constitution for the federal government to blanket monitor all public discourse.
There is no cow level
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
January 31 2012 11:28 GMT
#67
Can't blame the americans for doing this actually.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
ODKStevez
Profile Joined February 2011
Ireland1225 Posts
January 31 2012 11:28 GMT
#68
My god.. I can see both sides but what is this world coming to =[
Luppa <3
Cirqueenflex
Profile Joined October 2010
499 Posts
January 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#69
so people actually publish things on the internet under their real name for millions of people to read it and don't expect to be taken seriously? How can you be so stupid?
Give a man a fire, you keep him warm for a night. Set a man on fire, and you keep him warm for the rest of his life.
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
January 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#70
Fuck. wow.
Is this really happening now?
BSOD
Soleron
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1324 Posts
January 31 2012 11:29 GMT
#71
On January 31 2012 20:27 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 20:18 SolHeiM wrote:
On January 31 2012 20:16 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
On January 31 2012 20:15 xrapture wrote:
So if someone tweets they are going to destroy America before they fly in from a foreign country, Homeland Security shouldn't even bat an eyelash?


Technically they shouldn't be monitoring twitter, its illegal.


What? You're putting it out there for the public to see. How is it "illegal"?

Please, enlighten me.


There is no authority under the constitution for the federal government to blanket monitor all public discourse.


It's public, they don't need to.
Iksf
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom444 Posts
January 31 2012 11:31 GMT
#72
Don't get why people are having a go at the guy for his tweet, there is no context or anything. Chances are everyone here has said something equally stupid on MSN, skype, twitter, facebook, random forums etc at some point.
taitanik
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia231 Posts
January 31 2012 11:31 GMT
#73
well.. whats the point of writing somethink like that at all??? their own guilt
"the game is over only when you make it over"
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 11:34:06
January 31 2012 11:32 GMT
#74
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dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
January 31 2012 11:32 GMT
#75
Hilarious. The jokes on you americans ^^
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5232 Posts
January 31 2012 11:32 GMT
#76
The joke was funny (if you're cynical, have dark humor, ..)
There was no justification in barring them from a country, no matter how distasteful a statement is.
Also, I don't think terrorist or any questionable ativities will be held on public social media like twitter..
Taxes are for Terrans
BioTech
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia264 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 11:34:52
January 31 2012 11:32 GMT
#77
In Star Wars parlance: Osama has turned many in the USA to the 'dark side'. In the War on Terror many Americans have adopted the values of evil rather than using good to fight evil. I understand their anger, but they need to channel it into building a better nation - not letting it decay (a la Detroit city).

You dont need to torture or break your laws [established over centuries] to defeat terrorism. People will say anything under duress - ask the Norfolk Four.

Some in the USA are squandering the good will the world showed them post 9-11.

Lastly, friends of mine have told me LAX airport stuff are downright rude...but I wouldnt judge the whole country on the actions of a bitter few.
I actually played the original WarCraft - Orcs v Humans back in 1995!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46579 Posts
January 31 2012 11:33 GMT
#78
On January 31 2012 20:15 xrapture wrote:
So if someone tweets they are going to destroy America before they fly in from a foreign country, Homeland Security shouldn't even bat an eyelash?


If someone is stupid enough to tweet this without recognizing the consequences, I pretty much expect them to be checked out. Yeah.

It's like walking over to a cop and telling him you're going to commit a serious crime later on in the day. You *can* do it, even if you're joking or using play-on words or a figure of speech. Because hey, you're exercising your right to freedom of speech!
And then he's going to exercise his right to detain and investigate your ass because now you've given him reasonable suspicion, and legal authorities (*especially* when it comes to terrorism and stopping another 9/11 scare) are going to put the safety of the country before your own comfort- especially when you're the one who went out of your way to be a bonehead and be tactless in your conversational rhetoric.

Better safe than sorry... it's not even like this was a random search that ended up detaining people who said nothing awkward. They became blips on the radar for a reason, however silly it may be to those of us who use "killing" words in colloquial speech.

That being said, I don't really like the fact that they had to share cells with drug addicts (*actual* convicted felons) and ended up being sent home anyway in the end. They should have been treated and questioned in a more humane way, and then let go when nothing was found.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#79
On January 31 2012 20:29 Soleron wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 20:27 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
On January 31 2012 20:18 SolHeiM wrote:
On January 31 2012 20:16 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
On January 31 2012 20:15 xrapture wrote:
So if someone tweets they are going to destroy America before they fly in from a foreign country, Homeland Security shouldn't even bat an eyelash?


Technically they shouldn't be monitoring twitter, its illegal.


What? You're putting it out there for the public to see. How is it "illegal"?

Please, enlighten me.


There is no authority under the constitution for the federal government to blanket monitor all public discourse.


It's public, they don't need to.


So "public" means that a magical beam goes directly to every persons mind and they simply know? You've got to read it to see that it was written my friend, and to be able to pick out the "dangerous ones" you must read all of them. That is illegal.
There is no cow level
Wrongspeedy
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-31 11:39:43
January 31 2012 11:34 GMT
#80
On January 31 2012 20:27 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2012 20:18 SolHeiM wrote:
On January 31 2012 20:16 smokeyhoodoo wrote:
On January 31 2012 20:15 xrapture wrote:
So if someone tweets they are going to destroy America before they fly in from a foreign country, Homeland Security shouldn't even bat an eyelash?


Technically they shouldn't be monitoring twitter, its illegal.


What? You're putting it out there for the public to see. How is it "illegal"?

Please, enlighten me.


There is no authority under the constitution for the federal government to blanket monitor all public discourse.


http://news.discovery.com/tech/fbi-monitor-social-networks-120127.html

Seems like they think its legal.

Edit: Oh and the joke about digging up Marilyn is apparently from Family Guy
It is better to be a human dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied.- John Stuart Mill
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