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On October 17 2014 21:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2014 16:06 Pulselol wrote:
i made fashion friends who know nothing about rick owens
i am too patrician for them
(actually i had a discussion about guidi with one of them the other day and he was pretty chill) Show nested quote +On October 17 2014 16:38 andyrau wrote:
I am pretty sure it's impossible to discuss guidi at an intelligible level whilst being unaware of rick owens.
also awang x h&m looks awful Yeah, because someone doesn't worship at the altar of rick owens and have different tastes to you makes them a worthy object of derision. Such a disgusting attitude to have regarding fashion.
i never said that lol you misconstrued my message. and i'm far from a ro fan
to put it at familiar terms, it's kind of like discussing google products without knowing what samsung is, or discussing allen edmonds without knowing what brooks brothers is, or discussing the stock market without know what the bond market does. i'm sure i don't have to elaborate as these examples are more than self evident.
the two are not competitors and they don't necessarily occupy the same particular niche, but their roles/products overlap in so many small ways that it's impossible to say they're mutually exclusive.
that's why I'm saying it's impossible to hold a knowledgeable discussion about one subject if you have no idea what the other is.
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Maybe that person found out about the brand by word of mouth and doesn't read SF/blogs etc..
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even if you find out coincidentally (say, by talking to a SA/friend), if you walk into/visit any guidi stockist and I can say with mild certainty that they're also stocking some ro. darklandsberlin, hlorenzo, etc come to mind.
idk it just seems obscenely weird to me that you'd be interested in something very niche and have no idea about something else which serves a similar market.
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On October 18 2014 04:31 andyrau wrote:
if you walk into/visit any guidi stockist and I can say with mild certainty that they're also stocking some ro.
Sydney's in toronto stocked guidi without stocking any ro
All of andy's fashion knowledge invalidated
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On October 17 2014 16:38 andyrau wrote:
I am pretty sure it's impossible to discuss guidi at an intelligible level whilst being unaware of rick owens.
i was joking lmaoooo
dude was wearing detroits and a bbs blazer with an LEU shirt underneath, i'm pretty sure he knew all about the dick ovens. i actually wasn't sure what his derbies were but they looked like guidi ones
![[image loading]](http://www.yvgeny.com/wp-content/uploads/guidi/guidi-pig-reverse-leather-lined-sole-shoe-51.jpg)
On October 17 2014 21:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Yeah, because someone doesn't worship at the altar of rick owens and have different tastes to you makes them a worthy object of derision. Such a disgusting attitude to have regarding fashion.
i'm not surprised that the joke flew over your head given your past posts
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On October 18 2014 00:27 ZenithM wrote:
Haha here comes friendly neighborhood Dangermousecatdog again.
Or you know, if you disagree with me, you can form an line of reasoning. But you know deep inside that sort of attitude is inexcusable.On October 18 2014 01:29 andyrau wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2014 21:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 17 2014 16:06 Pulselol wrote:
i made fashion friends who know nothing about rick owens
i am too patrician for them
(actually i had a discussion about guidi with one of them the other day and he was pretty chill) On October 17 2014 16:38 andyrau wrote:
I am pretty sure it's impossible to discuss guidi at an intelligible level whilst being unaware of rick owens.
also awang x h&m looks awful Yeah, because someone doesn't worship at the altar of rick owens and have different tastes to you makes them a worthy object of derision. Such a disgusting attitude to have regarding fashion. i never said that lol you misconstrued my message. and i'm far from a ro fan to put it at familiar terms, it's kind of like discussing google products without knowing what samsung is, or discussing allen edmonds without knowing what brooks brothers is, or discussing the stock market without know what the bond market does. i'm sure i don't have to elaborate as these examples are more than self evident. the two are not competitors and they don't necessarily occupy the same particular niche, but their roles/products overlap in so many small ways that it's impossible to say they're mutually exclusive. that's why I'm saying it's impossible to hold a knowledgeable discussion about one subject if you have no idea what the other is.
You heard it here folks! Apparently you can't discuss other niche fashion intelligibly without knowing rick owens. Must be nice to be in your own little bubble.
Perhaps I sound a little harsh, but when this thread first started it had a mostly pleasant atmosphere, a place for people to share ideas and advice and personal tastes. Showing how to wear something that fits, cheaply and looking good or being well dressed. Somehow along the way, it took a nasty tone, where if you don't worship certain brands and ankle boots, talk their talk, your opinions be dismissed and disparaged, where a lot of the posts would take potshots at other people's fashion sense and no one would call them out on it, driving away other contributers. I don't go running around calling entire collections and designers awful and so other here should also refrain from doing so.
Anyhow awang x h&m which you say looks awful, the parka looks great, trousers look like they got that combination of a nice fit yet sportym but the beanie is just silly. Who would want a giant wang on their head? But that's my opinion, and I'm not going to call anyone a pleb for disagreeing. And that's the difference.
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On October 18 2014 07:47 Pulselol wrote:Show nested quote +On October 17 2014 16:38 andyrau wrote:
I am pretty sure it's impossible to discuss guidi at an intelligible level whilst being unaware of rick owens. i was joking lmaoooo Show nested quote +On October 17 2014 21:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Yeah, because someone doesn't worship at the altar of rick owens and have different tastes to you makes them a worthy object of derision. Such a disgusting attitude to have regarding fashion. i'm not surprised that the joke flew over your head given your past posts
How quickly you change your tone once someone calls you out on it eh?
It was just a joke, just a joke, no really it really was.
Nevermind that you totally didn't get my joke about down being as light as a feather, and went on a rampage about heaviness, and my other joke about being able to move around easily means that you are well balanced and called me all manners of names with snide remarks. But I let it slide, since the discussion had moved on. I suppose "jokes" where you don't disparage people are too sophisticated for you and just go right over your head.
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On October 18 2014 07:50 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 00:27 ZenithM wrote:
Haha here comes friendly neighborhood Dangermousecatdog again. Or you know, if you disagree with me, you can form an line of reasoning. But you know deep inside that sort of attitude is inexcusable. Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 01:29 andyrau wrote:On October 17 2014 21:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 17 2014 16:06 Pulselol wrote:
i made fashion friends who know nothing about rick owens
i am too patrician for them
(actually i had a discussion about guidi with one of them the other day and he was pretty chill) On October 17 2014 16:38 andyrau wrote:
I am pretty sure it's impossible to discuss guidi at an intelligible level whilst being unaware of rick owens.
also awang x h&m looks awful Yeah, because someone doesn't worship at the altar of rick owens and have different tastes to you makes them a worthy object of derision. Such a disgusting attitude to have regarding fashion. i never said that lol you misconstrued my message. and i'm far from a ro fan to put it at familiar terms, it's kind of like discussing google products without knowing what samsung is, or discussing allen edmonds without knowing what brooks brothers is, or discussing the stock market without know what the bond market does. i'm sure i don't have to elaborate as these examples are more than self evident. the two are not competitors and they don't necessarily occupy the same particular niche, but their roles/products overlap in so many small ways that it's impossible to say they're mutually exclusive. that's why I'm saying it's impossible to hold a knowledgeable discussion about one subject if you have no idea what the other is. You heard it here folks! Apparently you can't discuss other niche fashion intelligibly without knowing rick owens. Must be nice to be in your own little bubble. Perhaps I sound a little harsh, but when this thread first started it had a mostly pleasant atmosphere, a place for people to share ideas and advice and personal tastes. Showing how to wear something that fits, cheaply and looking good or being well dressed. Somehow along the way, it took a nasty tone, where if you don't worship certain brands and ankle boots, talk their talk, your opinions be dismissed and disparaged, where a lot of the posts would take potshots at other people's fashion sense and no one would call them out on it, driving away other contributers. I don't go running around calling entire collections and designers awful and so other here should also refrain from doing so. Anyhow awang x h&m which you say looks awful, the parka looks great, trousers look like they got that combination of a nice fit yet sportym but the beanie is just silly. Who would want a giant wang on their head? But that's my opinion, and I'm not going to call anyone a pleb for disagreeing. And that's the difference.
so do you know what guidi actually is without typing it in google or what
if you knew you wouldn't be making a statement like this
You heard it here folks! Apparently you can't discuss other niche fashion intelligibly without knowing rick owens. Must be nice to be in your own little bubble.
besides, being knowledgeable about something != worshipping it
my point was that you can't be knowledgeable about guidi, what they do, their entire concept, etc without also having a shred of information about similar brands. at the very least you hear about RO, not to mention a bunch of similar labels that occupy that market such as a1923, LUC, BBS, julius, Layer-0, etc.
you're going to have to go back and point out where I specifically call people out for dressing a certain way, or dislike someone's fit because their 'clothes are too cheap'.
for that matter I'm actually fairly certain that anytime I comment on someone's fit it's either constructive ('you may want to have the sides taken in' or 'i dislike the top block with those bottoms' or some shit) or it's a compliment.
my comments about the awang collab are clearly my own opinion.
for that matter, without even really mentioning the WANG plastered everywhere, neoprene looks cool on the runway/photoshoots but is actually real corny in practice.
and I don't think I've actually called anyone a pleb
On October 18 2014 07:02 phosej wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 04:31 andyrau wrote:
if you walk into/visit any guidi stockist and I can say with mild certainty that they're also stocking some ro. Sydney's in toronto stocked guidi without stocking any ro All of andy's fashion knowledge invalidated
well more importantly what is a store called sydney doing in torronto???
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On October 18 2014 07:59 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
How quickly you change your tone once someone calls you out on it eh?
It was just a joke, just a joke, no really it really was.
in case you have actual autistic tendencies, let me explain to you why it was a very obvious joke:
1. i called myself a patrician
2. i mentioned very niche brands that run in the same vein as ro after saying my new fashion friends don't know about rick owens, when in reality rick owens is probably the most popular brand in the same "type" of fashion i often talk about.
but be sure to think i am backpedaling and that you're "calling me out."
i don't think i've ever bashed people in this thread due to them having different tastes than me in terms of clothes, but i have ragged on brands that i think are bad due to multiple reasons (bad quality, terrible business practices), or those who have a close-minded opinion on fashion.
i actually think i have one of the most accepting personalities in this thread as long as you provide reasons as to why you like certain brands/clothes, except when you provide garbage posts such as "wow this is ugly lmao!!"
i think overall i actually talk about clothes here, while all you do is sit and bitch about how people are mean to you. maybe you need to calm the fuck down and actually participate instead of victimizing yourself.
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on another note:
1. does anybody know any fabric retailers in toronto that stocks sheer cotton-blend fabric?
2. does anybody have any experience with buying fabric from the internet?
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That feeling when you were going to wait until after work to buy something on grailed thats been listed for ages and when you get home it's just been sold...
Also I concur with whoever it was a few pages back that was having trouble finding a decent black parka. Everything I find is either sold out or has like 1 element that totally ruins it for me.
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On October 18 2014 07:50 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 00:27 ZenithM wrote:
Haha here comes friendly neighborhood Dangermousecatdog again. Or you know, if you disagree with me, you can form an line of reasoning. But you know deep inside that sort of attitude is inexcusable. Show nested quote +On October 18 2014 01:29 andyrau wrote:On October 17 2014 21:34 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 17 2014 16:06 Pulselol wrote:
i made fashion friends who know nothing about rick owens
i am too patrician for them
(actually i had a discussion about guidi with one of them the other day and he was pretty chill) On October 17 2014 16:38 andyrau wrote:
I am pretty sure it's impossible to discuss guidi at an intelligible level whilst being unaware of rick owens.
also awang x h&m looks awful Yeah, because someone doesn't worship at the altar of rick owens and have different tastes to you makes them a worthy object of derision. Such a disgusting attitude to have regarding fashion. i never said that lol you misconstrued my message. and i'm far from a ro fan to put it at familiar terms, it's kind of like discussing google products without knowing what samsung is, or discussing allen edmonds without knowing what brooks brothers is, or discussing the stock market without know what the bond market does. i'm sure i don't have to elaborate as these examples are more than self evident. the two are not competitors and they don't necessarily occupy the same particular niche, but their roles/products overlap in so many small ways that it's impossible to say they're mutually exclusive. that's why I'm saying it's impossible to hold a knowledgeable discussion about one subject if you have no idea what the other is. You heard it here folks! Apparently you can't discuss other niche fashion intelligibly without knowing rick owens. Must be nice to be in your own little bubble. Perhaps I sound a little harsh, but when this thread first started it had a mostly pleasant atmosphere, a place for people to share ideas and advice and personal tastes. Showing how to wear something that fits, cheaply and looking good or being well dressed. Somehow along the way, it took a nasty tone, where if you don't worship certain brands and ankle boots, talk their talk, your opinions be dismissed and disparaged, where a lot of the posts would take potshots at other people's fashion sense and no one would call them out on it, driving away other contributers. I don't go running around calling entire collections and designers awful and so other here should also refrain from doing so. Anyhow awang x h&m which you say looks awful, the parka looks great, trousers look like they got that combination of a nice fit yet sportym but the beanie is just silly. Who would want a giant wang on their head? But that's my opinion, and I'm not going to call anyone a pleb for disagreeing. And that's the difference.
Dangermousecatdog, you have to realize that you're the only one using that very acid, borderline invective tone. We get it, you're not into this thread's notion of "fashion", but I saw nobody calling anyone a pleb...
If anything, you're creating tension where there was none to begin with.
Edit: Oh ok, I see where that "pleb" thing is coming from now. See, now that's me backpedalling. Well, regardless, you're not nice :D. I think you're right in some aspects, but you could just smoothen up the delivery.
And really, everything with a giant "W A N G" is awful (read: "I find it awful, and I don't understand how anyone can like it" but not "It is factually awful") in this collection, but I'm still interested in some of the items without a giant WANG on it.
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As the resident mod in this thread I was going to make a long post discussing what Dangermousecatdog gets right and wrong and about this thread in general, but then I got lazy.
So you get an abridged version:
To Dangermousecatdog: Stop misconstruing posts. I know you have a problem with these goofninjas and I agree that to an outsider, the thread can be intimidating due to its specific subculture and apparent homogeneity in taste. But my own taste in clothes is pretty distant from these lord monochromicorns, and I rarely feel like they are genuinely condescending or insulting towards differing opinions. If anything, I make fun of them more, but we all understand that the discussion of menswear involves a lot of irony and satire. You seem to miss this completely every few pages and it causes the thread to turn into shit, just like this. While I do agree with you that it can be intimidating to newcomers and the posters here could be a bit less condescending (in the threads own comical tone) since newcomers don't understand the thread's culture yet, overall their tone is helpful as long as the poster in question isn't antagonistic or a know-it-all. Regardless of your rightness or wrongness, you only ever come here to start an argument based on a misunderstanding. Unacceptable.
To everyone else: Personal insults (retard, autistic, whatever) are unacceptable. I don't care if it's someone that only causes trouble in this thread. Argue with him in a civil manner and move on. I've been lenient in this thread, but I will action it in the future. While Dangermousecatdog is often wrong in his assumptions, he is right that the thread could be a little more friendly to outsiders who might genuinely not understand or know much about menswear, and might not understand the thread's culture. While it isn't the thread's fault that the most active posters have similar tastes, not everyone gets the whole comic irony/satire/condescension undertone that sometimes exists in the thread. So needlessly condescending replies to newbies looking for real advice will not be tolerated in the future.
sheesh guys i just wanna look at a nice clothes
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Who needs cyber sports drama when you've got this shitposting to feed off of.
Is it possible for non-koreans to wear formal clothing + new balance? I'm not sure if a foreigner could ever pull it off. I don't even know where they get their new balance shoes. Is it some old boys club that foreigners can't get into?
I see this on the train often enough to take note.
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i've always liked the EG fw13 model:
![[image loading]](http://www.engineeredgarments.com/Images/FWK/FW13/9.jpg)
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On October 18 2014 14:24 Thaniri wrote:
Who needs cyber sports drama when you've got this shitposting to feed off of.
Is it possible for non-koreans to wear formal clothing + new balance? I'm not sure if a foreigner could ever pull it off. I don't even know where they get their new balance shoes. Is it some old boys club that foreigners can't get into?
I see this on the train often enough to take note.
depends do you look like steve carell?
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On October 18 2014 14:24 Thaniri wrote:
Who needs cyber sports drama when you've got this shitposting to feed off of.
Is it possible for non-koreans to wear formal clothing + new balance? I'm not sure if a foreigner could ever pull it off. I don't even know where they get their new balance shoes. Is it some old boys club that foreigners can't get into?
I see this on the train often enough to take note.
dunno where they get it from but mfa has a good amount of it. def possible, but you have to have a similar tall/slim build.
thx for the modding lichter, every thread needs its own personal mod 
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so question for all you budgeted peoples - do you just have a general fund for clothing purchases over x amount of time and see what you feel like getting, or do you save up for certain pieces?
im torn between what ive done the past few years ("i have $xxx for the year) vs putting aside a little bit for the few things I'm looking into this year - (a new bomber & some black sneakers).
just feels a little scary to put like, $600 into 2 purchases and call it a year.
speaking of, anyone have experience with geller bombers? particularly the tencel ones, and regarding how warm/thick they are? my uniqlo one holds me down in the 50s so I want something comparable/warmer.
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On October 18 2014 10:34 ZenithM wrote:
but I'm still interested in... a giant WANG
THIS IS ALL IM SEEING, we're all getting matching wang beanies
On October 18 2014 09:16 Pulselol wrote:
2. does anybody have any experience with buying fabric from the internet?
might be worth poking around here
http://putthison.com/search/fabric
at the least, find some tailors with the fabric you want and ask for the source
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Putting $600 into 2 purchases in a year is only scary when its your first year or two trying to be fashionable.
Eventually once you've gotten enough $50 pants and $10 shirts its worth it to buy a jacket for $500.
I've spent probably $500 this year on clothes for myself. MAYBE a few hundred more by the end of the year, we'll see.
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Scary isn't the best way to articulate. It's part, can I live with only making 2 purchases and a few small buys in a year, and b, can I internally justify putting that amount of cash in those few things compared to the opportunity cost (aka $600 on some restaurants?) this is obv coming out of my "for me" budget, I'm not going starving for kops or anything. But right now what's stopping me from buying a bunch other than the limit I set for myself is deciding whether I'd rather use $50 eating out or have a new shirt. Hence why I'm bringing this up haha.
I'm pretty close to that amount. I have a list somewhere. $150 on Nike stuff (soccer pants, socks, shirt), $215 on my stark (super worth so far), $80 on uniqlo, $60 in T shirts.
I have another 150 or so for a new knit / Black Friday
Interestingly enough I have some relatively expensive Ts lol
So yeah I'm def close to the point where all I really need is 3 or 4 pieces until I develop aesthetically
But I might also just be complaining bc my income is low as a student until I get some lab $$
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
I make a yearly clothes budget. Then I write down specific wants and the order in which I want to get them. The cost of those wants is removed from the budget and the rest becomes my monthly budget. The wants are obtained at whatever pace I feel like. I'm allowed to add new wants, but they have to replace old wants, and they reduce my yearly budget.
let's just say i'm not good at following this plan >.>
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That's totally subjective. What will you enjoy more, the shirt or the restaurant?
For me my priority is always going to be the restaurant, because frankly I dress in order to look good in other people's eyes and I know that most people don't give a damn about fashion whatsoever.
Maybe it's how people are raised, their values and stuff.
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