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Brutaxilos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2629 Posts
January 13 2012 07:54 GMT
#101
personally, i think ebooks are cheap enough to buy. not a big deal anyways and most of the books i need to read for class are classics and are free anyways.
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RifleCow
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada637 Posts
January 13 2012 07:57 GMT
#102
Just like how the music industry has to change so does the book industry;
hohoho
nohbrows
Profile Joined February 2011
United States653 Posts
January 13 2012 08:05 GMT
#103
I don't think physical books will go away for a long time. They have been around for hundreds of years and it does not look like they will be going away anytime soon.
As convienient it is to have hundreds of books in a single device, nothing beats instaneously going from page 1 to page (insert 3 digit number here) in sometimes barely a second without having to play around with buttons or scrolls or touch screens.I for one cannot read a brightlit LCD screen for very long. And e-paper just feels fake.

And books smell nice. And feel nice. You can carry it around without worrying about charging it (and who reads multiple novels at the same time without finishing one of them first barring school assignments?). As for getting books for free, there is always public libraries. Sure they are behind sometimes on getting the newest books out there, but thats the price you pay for getting books for free. And friends. Friends are great libraries.
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zlosynus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Czech Republic339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 10:12:05
January 13 2012 10:11 GMT
#104
It is completely right man, because downloading (making copies) is NOT stealing. Stealing would be if you go to a shop and take a physical copy with you which is not what you are doing. Don't feel guilty just because of stupid publisher's lobby. Basically piracy is something like regulation of free market, if you don't support as a publisher your customers to get your work easily enough, they will get it in other way (outside of your monopoly). Instead of fighting against e-books, they should support them.

Btw. this is nice reading: http://notch.tumblr.com/post/1121596044/how-piracy-works. Personally I vote for Pirate Party .
Seraphone
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom1219 Posts
January 13 2012 14:42 GMT
#105
On January 13 2012 16:57 RifleCow wrote:
Just like how the music industry has to change so does the book industry;


I hate opinions like this. Why should they change because the world is full of thieves? It's absurd.

Musicians and actors also have other ways of making money (i.e concerts, cinema, theatre etc..), authors just have books unless they're lucky and get a film deal or JK Rowling famous.
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Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 15:02:17
January 13 2012 15:00 GMT
#106
Wiped clean. Also people justifying stealing eBooks
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Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 15:05:56
January 13 2012 15:04 GMT
#107
On January 13 2012 23:42 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 16:57 RifleCow wrote:
Just like how the music industry has to change so does the book industry;


I hate opinions like this. Why should they change because the world is full of thieves? It's absurd.

Musicians and actors also have other ways of making money (i.e concerts, cinema, theatre etc..), authors just have books unless they're lucky and get a film deal or JK Rowling famous.

They have to change because they have to adapt to the digital age. It has NOTHING to do with thieves.

Copying is not stealing FYI. when i copy it the original remains untouched, unlike when i steal something, see the difference?

i also hate opinions like this.
-_-Quails
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia796 Posts
January 13 2012 15:11 GMT
#108
On January 13 2012 23:42 Seraphone wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2012 16:57 RifleCow wrote:
Just like how the music industry has to change so does the book industry;


I hate opinions like this. Why should they change because the world is full of thieves? It's absurd.

Musicians and actors also have other ways of making money (i.e concerts, cinema, theatre etc..), authors just have books unless they're lucky and get a film deal or JK Rowling famous.

They should change to a business model that works with the current reality of a world "full of thieves" and modern filesharing because not changing does not alter that reality and is likely to be worse for their business long-term than developing a new model to guarantee the revenue stream. A positive change is one that increases both royalty checks and audience. The itunes model, the free-with-attached-ads model, and the pay-what-you-like model all seem to be possible steps forward. It's not absurd, it's good business.
"I post only when my brain works." - Reaper9
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9560 Posts
January 13 2012 15:16 GMT
#109
I actually hate reading on a comp/pad so much. My eyes tear up so badly and hurt. Not to mention my attention span suffers. I love books, buying books and the smell of them, and the feel of paper in my hands. Yes a lot of things are getting digitalized or virtualized, but I think books in paper form will still remain the n.1 source for books for at least another 100 years.
Books in paper form are one of the things I don't regret spending money on.

By that I say I support the authors by buying books and screw Ebooks =)
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DarKcS
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia1237 Posts
January 13 2012 15:57 GMT
#110
The itunes model, the free-with-attached-ads model, and the pay-what-you-like model all seem to be possible steps forward. It's not absurd, it's good business.


Agreed. Profits go up 10x when you deliver digital content hassle free, cheap and available to all.
Same can't be said to games though, a 100% digital product being sold at retail box prices to protect greedy retailers.
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dUTtrOACh
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2339 Posts
January 13 2012 16:04 GMT
#111
I just think of a bookshelf with a flash drive on it and shudder. There is nothing like showing off how much you've read with a stacked bookshelf.
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Neo.NEt
Profile Joined August 2010
United States785 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 16:12:22
January 13 2012 16:11 GMT
#112
For me the problem with buying things like music, movies, books, etc. is that they make it a pain in the ass to get it back when you re-format your computer or lose everything you had saved (still haven't got back the stuff from iTunes I actually paid for.. but I'm sure it's really not THAT hard?). That and the fact that it costs money...

I guess if you want to be a good person, pay for the things you'd actually buy if you had to, but if it's something you'd never buy anyway... might as well?

I've been brainwashed
Apologize.
starcraft911
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)1263 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-13 16:17:14
January 13 2012 16:15 GMT
#113
I prefer the physical copy to e-books. I like to be able to take it anywhere I want and jot down notes on it. I have a kindle, ipad, and the new kindle and I use them sometimes for instance if I'm going on a trip and I don't know what I want to bring with me I'll take a digital format that way I don't have to pick, but if I'm studying a specific topic the physical book is much more conducive to my own learning. I'm very tactile even when it comes to reading so I like a pen nearby and the ability to write stuff into it. I know I can write notes with my ipad, but it's not the same and unlike my digital copies, the hardback is something I will revisit to find something. With all that said, there is one advantage to having an e-book and that is the find feature. It beats the hell out of looking for it yourself.


On January 14 2012 01:11 Neo.NEt wrote:
For me the problem with buying things like music, movies, books, etc. is that they make it a pain in the ass to get it back when you re-format your computer or lose everything you had saved (still haven't got back the stuff from iTunes I actually paid for.. but I'm sure it's really not THAT hard?). That and the fact that it costs money...

I guess if you want to be a good person, pay for the things you'd actually buy if you had to, but if it's something you'd never buy anyway... might as well?

I've been brainwashed


Why do I feel like the only person in the world who backs anything up? Why would you ever lose everything? Even with a VERY inexpensive setup there's no reason to not backup. You can set that shit up to be completely automated.... Every time I see someone complain about losing info I feel like I'm talking to my grandma.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
January 13 2012 18:12 GMT
#114
Textbooks? Nope. Just free public information... Novels and other random/creative stuff? Perhaps. The latter isn't just rewritten material over and over again in different forms...
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Nancial
Profile Joined July 2011
197 Posts
January 13 2012 18:25 GMT
#115
Stealing books ? Srsly ? Something that can't be protected from "piracy" shouldn't even be a sellable item at all.

I mean if I own a book it's my right to let other people read it, isn't it? Even if i don't know them.
And even if I give them a digital copy.
Noro
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada991 Posts
January 13 2012 18:29 GMT
#116
Im all about piracy, but personaly I will always prefer reading from an actual book.
Talk not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me.
wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
January 13 2012 18:34 GMT
#117
I hope to god that books survive; I love holding a book in my hand and reading it. To me, it makes it much more enjoyable than reading off a computer screen. Granted, I only used a Kindle once, but I just like the idea of holding a book and flipping its pages. Not sure why, but I just love books.

E-books has it place, as it makes it possible for the author to have a direct line to the purchaser, so there is no middleman.
mastergriggy
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1312 Posts
January 13 2012 18:34 GMT
#118
I've never really been a fan of hardcover books...they are pretty heavy. The only exception is for ones that I really want to keep in good condition (as hardbound/hardcover seems to keep them better). I don't think I've ever pirated a book, actually the thought has honestly never occurred to me as a possibility. Retarded moment by me XD
Write your own song!
HeavenS
Profile Joined August 2004
Colombia2259 Posts
January 13 2012 18:49 GMT
#119
all the books i have on stanza are downloaded. what can i say? do i wish i could pay for them instead so the author could get credit? sure, but id have to have money first. and im a broke college student so thats that.
when i graduate i plan on buying a nice little collection of all the great books i enjoyed for free.
Im cooler than the other side of the pillow.
TogetherAsOne
Profile Joined January 2012
4 Posts
January 13 2012 18:55 GMT
#120
Engineering books cost over 150$. Aerodynamics this semester costs 225$. A solid mechanics book costs 250$. Over my dead body am I paying that. I download them and print them at a Chinese photocopy place that ignores copyright. Charging this much for books is taking advantage of students.
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