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Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17238 Posts
April 28 2012 20:03 GMT
#501
For all those who are also watching A Game of Thrones series, Conan Stevens (The Mountain) is going to play Azog (goblin chieftain) in Hobbit.
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Ludwigvan
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany2371 Posts
May 01 2012 11:03 GMT
#502
Please keep the high frame rate! I am sick and tired of this convention, that every expensive movie has to look the same. With a high frame rate, going to the movies feels more like theatre and reality. I don't agree with people that want less frames at all. There are thousands of films with low framerate already. Go watch them. They are good. Why are people against changes like this? They will get used to it, or will forever stay boring traditionalists. Like Peter Bogdanovic. He knows a lot about Hollywood of the past, but when it comes to changes in cinema, he is the opposite of open minded. Keep the frame rate Peter, I hope others will follow you!
brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
May 01 2012 11:07 GMT
#503
I really hope it is in 24fps. High frame rates make CG look so bad, and so obviously fake. Nobody else in my family can tell the difference... but as someone who has played FPS games for over a decade, I'm really sensitive to framerate, and I can't tolerate non-24-fps movies.
wunir
Profile Joined May 2011
United Kingdom13 Posts
May 01 2012 11:33 GMT
#504
Hair looks really fake .. other than that :D
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
May 01 2012 11:40 GMT
#505
Clearly we all know CG is fake so.. why does it matter?
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Hairy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1169 Posts
May 01 2012 13:17 GMT
#506
On May 01 2012 20:40 Tennet wrote:
Clearly we all know CG is fake so.. why does it matter?

When dealing with any kind of entertainment based upon fiction, there is a concept known as the suspension of disbelief. Essentially, people are quite happy to overlook certain implausibility, and do so effortlessly, as long as the world and people and actions people perform etc remain consistent to the fiction. I like Tolkien's explanation best:
Tolkien says that, in order for the narrative to work, the reader must believe that what he reads is true within the secondary reality of the fictional world. By focusing on creating an internally consistent fictional world, the author makes secondary belief possible. Tolkien argues that suspension of disbelief is only necessary when the work has failed to create secondary belief. From that point the spell is broken, and the reader ceases to be immersed in the story and must make a conscious effort to suspend disbelief or else give up on it entirely.


Anything that breaks the consistency of the world would therefore break the viewer's suspension of disbelief. Have you watched 'Alien'? How would you have felt if, at the end of the film, Ripley in her climactic battle with the alien had shouted a magic spell and turned the alien into a bunny rabbit? It might be ok if it were Gandalf fighting off an orc, but it is NOT ok for Ripley because it does not 'fit' with the created universe.

The problem people have with the higher framerate is the same problem people have had in the past when films (and filming) have been getting higher and higher definition and quality. As film and TV technology got better, it became more and more obvious to the viewer that eg those pretty landscapes were actually just a cheap picture drawn on a background (eg look at original series star trek). Previously passable visuals become obviously fake, thus breaking the suspension of disbelief. This issue will continue be rear its head until films/games become perfect emulations of real life, plugged directly into our brains and so flawless that you cannot tell the difference between the fiction and the reality. Every single step along the way, though, will result in people complaining that the increased fidelity exposes the "fakeness" of a special effect, thus breaking the suspension of disbelief. Special effects must become better and better to stand up to the increased level of scrutiny possible by the audience. This increase in framerate from 24fps to 48fps is no different.

That all said, I fully support the new shiny framerate! :D I can't wait to see the film.
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zocktol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany1928 Posts
July 30 2012 15:50 GMT
#507
So now it ill be three movies and include the whole Dol Guldur Story.

I am excited

Source.
Tennet
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1458 Posts
July 30 2012 15:54 GMT
#508
That is awesome news, I am hoping there is a ton of content over the three movies as long as it isn't overdone. I can't wait to have a massive marathon lol
"The harder it gets, the more you need to focus on the basics." - Seo Gyung Jong
Arkless
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada1547 Posts
July 30 2012 15:59 GMT
#509
On July 31 2012 00:50 zocktol wrote:
So now it ill be three movies and include the whole Dol Guldur Story.

I am excited

Source.



This news couldnt be any better =)
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
July 30 2012 16:06 GMT
#510
Amazing news!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 30 2012 16:09 GMT
#511
3 movies, one book. I expect them to include A LOT.

I just hope it won't get bogged down and turn off non-fans.
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elt
Profile Joined July 2010
Thailand1092 Posts
July 30 2012 16:14 GMT
#512
Ugh. I thought The Hobbit by itself barely warranted the two movie treatment, but I honestly don't know how they're going to fill a third film. I think they risk a lot if they flesh out the events leading up to the attack on Dol Guldur, mostly because of the paucity of material.

Hobbit/LotR spoilers, I guess?
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Another thing is how are they going to reconcile Sauron-as-Necromancer and the cinematic depiction of glowing red eye atop Barad-Dur.
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nbaker
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1341 Posts
July 30 2012 16:17 GMT
#513
Sad news for me. I wish they would just tell the story as Tolkein did. I think the added material will mess up the pacing of the movies and distract from the important characters and events.
Kimaker
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2131 Posts
July 30 2012 16:19 GMT
#514
On July 31 2012 01:14 elt wrote:
Ugh. I thought The Hobbit by itself barely warranted the two movie treatment, but I honestly don't know how they're going to fill a third film. I think they risk a lot if they flesh out the events leading up to the attack on Dol Guldur, mostly because of the paucity of material.

Hobbit/LotR spoilers, I guess?
+ Show Spoiler +
Another thing is how are they going to reconcile Sauron-as-Necromancer and the cinematic depiction of glowing red eye atop Barad-Dur.

I'd assume they'd reconcile it the same way they did when they transitioned from him being a towering fell warrior to him being a glowing red eye.

"He just is. Deal with it"- Peter Jackson

lol
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Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
July 30 2012 16:38 GMT
#515
Ahhhhhh so epic! I can't wait for the movies! Only a couple of months left now
Jaedong <3
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 16:49:10
July 30 2012 16:47 GMT
#516
That could be pretty cool. Will have to see it to really say anything useful about it though. As long as the content is still relevant and stays true enough (I think LotR did a great job although we all have our minor bones to pick I'm sure, Faramir anyone? OMFG) to the books there really can't be enough Tolkien based movies as far as I'm concerned. What they did with LotR was truly amazing and if they can pull that off again, hell film stories from the Silmarillion too!
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Coolness53
Profile Joined April 2010
United States668 Posts
July 30 2012 16:48 GMT
#517
On July 31 2012 01:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
That could be pretty cool. Will have to see it to really say anything useful about it though. As long as the content is still relevant and stays true enough (I think LotR did a great job although we all have our minor bones to pick I'm sure) to the books there really can't be enough Tolkien based movies as far as I'm concerned. What they did with LotR was truly amazing and if they can pull that off again, hell film stories from the Silmarillion too!


That was pretty amazing! To even get more films .
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r00ty
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1050 Posts
July 30 2012 16:49 GMT
#518
I just hope, it's an artist decision and not a business one...
MrHoon *
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
10183 Posts
July 30 2012 16:57 GMT
#519
On July 31 2012 01:49 r00ty wrote:
I just hope, it's an artist decision and not a business one...

this is pretty much my biggest concern too
But I still have faith in peter jackson! Unlike another certain trilogy maker
dats racist
GrimmJ
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada131 Posts
July 30 2012 17:03 GMT
#520
On July 31 2012 01:57 MrHoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 31 2012 01:49 r00ty wrote:
I just hope, it's an artist decision and not a business one...

this is pretty much my biggest concern too
But I still have faith in peter jackson! Unlike another certain trilogy maker



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