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elKaDor
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden376 Posts
December 15 2011 09:13 GMT
#41
holy fuck ^_^ nice work
Flyingdutchman
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands858 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 09:13:37
December 15 2011 09:13 GMT
#42
On December 15 2011 17:37 m1rk3 wrote:
it's funny how something that's not a major killer (cancer) receives a lot of money, yet something like aids and HIV in africa does not. So many people die from the latter versus cancer. Yet, the amount of money for a cancer drug is 1000 times that of a drug to treat aids.

i'm so off topic =p


Cancer is the major killer in 1st world countries, HIV/AIDS is not. For 3rd world countries, the sub-Saharan African continent in particular, people die too early in their lives for Cancer to be a problem. HIV/AIDS is a problem there, mainly because the governments have been ignoring the problem, and in some cases even outright denied the existence of HIV. Vitamins are quite effective in keeping HIV/AIDS from killing you, and is therefore a mere minor nuisance compared to Cancer.
[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
December 15 2011 09:13 GMT
#43
you'd figure she deserves more money than that. That is, if it turns out to be successful. Even still, seems to be quite the advancement in the right direction in science. Can't wait til we can monitor our bodies at the molecular level.
JF dodger since 2009
Sprutking
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Sweden18 Posts
December 15 2011 09:14 GMT
#44
The girl has been busy thats for sure.
Btw, what did I do when I was 17?
Playing starcraft
There is no spoon~
Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
December 15 2011 09:14 GMT
#45
--- Nuked ---
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
December 15 2011 09:15 GMT
#46
On December 15 2011 18:07 chenchen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 18:03 Lightwip wrote:
On December 15 2011 18:00 chenchen wrote:
I don't want to sound like a dick and diminish anyone's hard work, but from personal experience, most (not all) of the projects that get deep in Intel and Siemens are basically done by the students' mentors. In many cases, all the high school kid has to do is to tag along and try to understand what's going on and some of them don't even understand their own projects.


But of course. How can anyone without a full scientific education hope to solve such a problem on their own when a Ph.D. can't do the same?
Medicine takes a lot of hard work, collaboration, and education. It's not possible for a high school student to do more than just a little bit.


I just want to make sure that people don't blow the news out of proportion.

Every year, dozens of high school students bust out impressive sounding projects at Intel and Siemens finals that are more likely than not the work of their "mentors", as most competitive schools nowadays have mentorship programs that pair up kids with researchers that have PhDs.

To be honest, these kids are probably much less impressive than International Math Olympiad competitors, and yet get so much more attention in the news because it's much easier to report "girl cures cancer" than "dude solves problem that 99% of our readers/viewers can't understand".


Impressive is relative word mr. skeptic. But sure, medical research is a collaborative effort, there is nothing wrong with that.. it is a lot of hard work still.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
December 15 2011 09:18 GMT
#47
Wonder if/how much this will change the average human life-length in first-world countries.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 15 2011 09:19 GMT
#48
The reason 1st world countries don't focus on HIV and AIDS is simply economics. Research is expensive, so it's more reasonable to only focus on those dying in your own area who would pay to live, unless some form of incentive is created.
Much of the United States's research on tropical diseases came from the Vietnam War effort to protect soldiers. If this incentive was not created, who would bother treating an unprofitable disease?
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
s4life
Profile Joined March 2007
Peru1519 Posts
December 15 2011 09:19 GMT
#49
On December 15 2011 18:14 Sated wrote:
News outlets not doing enough research to understand that this isn't a new idea... nor will it cure cancer.

I hate mainstream news reporting of science.


Sure there are plenty of other similar works, haven't read the article yet, but I presume it is dealing with a new set of conditions or else it is targeting a previously untreatable type of cancer cell -- in vitro that is.
Caltech research did this a couple of years ago
http://inventorspot.com/articles/nanobots_deliver_rna_interference_therapy_patients_cancer_cells_39132

There are other companies that sell siRNA-based nanobots to treat certain type of cancer but their spectrum is really narrow.. but yeah I agree, there is long ways to go.
Zerksys
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States569 Posts
December 15 2011 09:21 GMT
#50
On December 15 2011 17:37 m1rk3 wrote:
it's funny how something that's not a major killer (cancer) receives a lot of money, yet something like aids and HIV in africa does not. So many people die from the latter versus cancer. Yet, the amount of money for a cancer drug is 1000 times that of a drug to treat aids.

i'm so off topic =p


You're wrong but unfortunately with every bit of unfounded jargon that people put on the internet there's a grain of truth in your statement. Simple diseases like Hepatitis and malaria which can be treated by things like better hygiene and vaccines are not getting the same amount of attention that cancer is getting. So in this you're right. A lot of that money could be put into implementing malaria and Hep help programs. As for research though for diseases cancer is still the biggest one. Also it's the one that is the biggest problem in developed countries.
What's that probe doing there? It's a scout. You mean one of those flying planes? No....
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 09:22:30
December 15 2011 09:21 GMT
#51
On December 15 2011 18:15 s4life wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 18:07 chenchen wrote:
On December 15 2011 18:03 Lightwip wrote:
On December 15 2011 18:00 chenchen wrote:
I don't want to sound like a dick and diminish anyone's hard work, but from personal experience, most (not all) of the projects that get deep in Intel and Siemens are basically done by the students' mentors. In many cases, all the high school kid has to do is to tag along and try to understand what's going on and some of them don't even understand their own projects.


But of course. How can anyone without a full scientific education hope to solve such a problem on their own when a Ph.D. can't do the same?
Medicine takes a lot of hard work, collaboration, and education. It's not possible for a high school student to do more than just a little bit.


I just want to make sure that people don't blow the news out of proportion.

Every year, dozens of high school students bust out impressive sounding projects at Intel and Siemens finals that are more likely than not the work of their "mentors", as most competitive schools nowadays have mentorship programs that pair up kids with researchers that have PhDs.

To be honest, these kids are probably much less impressive than International Math Olympiad competitors, and yet get so much more attention in the news because it's much easier to report "girl cures cancer" than "dude solves problem that 99% of our readers/viewers can't understand".


Impressive is relative word mr. skeptic. But sure, medical research is a collaborative effort, there is nothing wrong with that.. it is a lot of hard work still.

Nevertheless, I personally do not appreciate the sensationalization of the media.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
blah_blah
Profile Joined April 2011
346 Posts
December 15 2011 09:24 GMT
#52
On December 15 2011 18:07 chenchen wrote:To be honest, these kids are probably much less impressive than International Math Olympiad competitors, and yet get so much more attention in the news because it's much easier to report "girl cures cancer" than "dude solves problem that 99% of our readers/viewers can't understand".


Yes, it's no coincidence that virtually every successful science fair competitor at this level is in the vicinity of a top research center. I mean, for olympiad types, the correlation is also high between proximity to good universities or top magnet high schools, but not nearly as strong.
pileopoop
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada317 Posts
December 15 2011 09:28 GMT
#53
Can she patent it like most people would? 100,000 doesnt seem like enough money for something like this
OrchidThief
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark2298 Posts
December 15 2011 09:45 GMT
#54
I'd really be interested in just exactly how much of this is actual innovation. I've been hearing about local drug release systems ever since I started uni. Sounds like they just meshed together a bunch of technology that people are already working on everywhere gave it a fancy title and called it a day. There is no way this group of highschoolers understands all these fields being thrown together sufficiently to revolutionize it to any degree.

There's a lot of sensationalization going on here, and it's really hard to figure out what exactly it was they came up with themselves.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
December 15 2011 09:51 GMT
#55
Nice job but we have an overpopulation problem.
SnetteL
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Belgium473 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 09:52:54
December 15 2011 09:52 GMT
#56
1000 hours of work... That's not a lot! Taken into account she needs to read up about all the current technologies and their drawbacks, that she's only 17 and probably? doesn't have the basics for jumping onto such a problem 1000 hours is a joke.

It would be hard to imagine that a 17 year old had such a breakthrough in a well researched field while her title doesn't even contain anything innovative.

Nevertheless, she must have done something, and to just be involved into this kind of research at her age is very impressive.

On December 15 2011 18:45 OrchidThief wrote:
I'd really be interested in just exactly how much of this is actual innovation. I've been hearing about local drug release systems ever since I started uni. Sounds like they just meshed together a bunch of technology that people are already working on everywhere gave it a fancy title and called it a day. There is no way this group of highschoolers understands all these fields being thrown together sufficiently to revolutionize it to any degree.

There's a lot of sensationalization going on here, and it's really hard to figure out what exactly it was they came up with themselves.


I agree.
Caps lock is cruise control for cool.
Synche
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1345 Posts
December 15 2011 09:53 GMT
#57
I read shit like this and I realize no matter how much school I go to I'm never going to be above the average Joe grad school guy. Some people are just smart.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
December 15 2011 09:53 GMT
#58
poorly written article but good for her. she didn't "cure cancer" but it's definitely a impressive accomplishment.
The Show of a Lifetime
Vamp
Profile Joined June 2008
United Kingdom184 Posts
December 15 2011 09:57 GMT
#59
Good for her, we need more people like this in the world
`';..;'` http://www.facebook.com/Vamp.Sc2
Kickboxer
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Slovenia1308 Posts
December 15 2011 10:04 GMT
#60
We already know a cure for HIV. It's called a condom...

Also, this girls is super amazing. I hope she invents a lot more stuff in the future.
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