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RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
December 15 2011 11:08 GMT
#81
This author pisses me off, makes me, a 17 year old feel like a major unachiever and worthless.

Quote: "Smoke in the back of the high school" Really? Wtf, just sounds so absurd to put into an article.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Holy Check
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Romania155 Posts
December 15 2011 11:15 GMT
#82
First organ transplants, now a cure for cancer.
We're all going to be happy and healthy 140 yr olds. All 10 - 20 billion of us. Hurrah!
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
December 15 2011 11:18 GMT
#83
i was smoking a bit of mary jane when i was 17, so i guess you could say i was curing cancer too
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
December 15 2011 11:23 GMT
#84
Everytime the media talk about research, it feel so ridiculous. Look that girl, 17 years old, she cured cancer !

Thanks god, some people in this thread knows how it is and told us.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
KeksX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany3634 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 11:27:55
December 15 2011 11:24 GMT
#85
Please help me with this because I'm a total newb:

Did she invent it as created it based off of chemicals? Or did she find this particular chemical that has the abilities to do that? Can someone give a brief explanation of what exactly she has done?

Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 20:08 RogerX wrote:
This author pisses me off, makes me, a 17 year old feel like a major unachiever and worthless.

Quote: "Smoke in the back of the high school" Really? Wtf, just sounds so absurd to put into an article.


Yea the author is kinda dumb but thats nothing really new to me, people tend to write things like this all the time when someone young did something, because it encourages yourself to appreciate what the person has done and thus you give more positive feedback in general. It's a little psycho trick that you just have to ignore.

Also, 100k$ are a joke. That girl deserves WAY MORE THAN THAT.
KoBlades
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria248 Posts
December 15 2011 11:27 GMT
#86
wow that quite something, i see a bright future for this girl^^
"What do you know about fear?" -"Everything."
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
December 15 2011 11:33 GMT
#87
This is a bit off topic, but this makes me depressed and makes me feel like an underachiever
... i get jealous.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
December 15 2011 11:33 GMT
#88
On December 15 2011 20:24 KeksX wrote:
Also, 100k$ are a joke. That girl deserves WAY MORE THAN THAT.


If this is as big as the article makes it sound, i have no doubt she will get a decent job offer because of this. She seem to deserve it!
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Diavlo
Profile Joined July 2011
Belgium2915 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 11:38:29
December 15 2011 11:36 GMT
#89
Again with the overexaggeration of the press.

Nanomedecine has been around for years. As far as 2000 actually. It's a very promising domain which still faces a lot of challenges: safety,efficiency, cost, versatility in terms of drugs...

Don't get me wrong, the fact that a 17 years old is able to design a nanoparticule is very impressive and one day, she might become a leading scientist, but at this point, her work is just another paper on a long list of untested miracles. Just like hundreds (thousands) of other works that get far more prestigious prizes that the public never hears about.





"I don't know how many years on this Earth I got left. I'm gonna get real weird with it."
Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
December 15 2011 11:38 GMT
#90
ummm if they couldl they could fix both aids and cance they wouldr.... the is a reason why we havent been able to sort eithier yet.... reallyhhope this girl is onto something, after losing many relatives toccancer then for mypartner to have cancerous cells lasered away you always fear the worst!!!


Live and Let Die!
insolus
Profile Joined October 2010
United States23 Posts
December 15 2011 11:42 GMT
#91
On December 15 2011 17:27 Dhalphir wrote:
Somewhat unfortunately, she's not likely to get rich from this. Vital cures like this never make the creator any money, because the government won't stand for you charging an amount proportional to what it cost to develop.

But, she'll be famous for life if it leads to a true cure.


Sadly yeah, but with a brain and dedication like that at such a young age I'm sure she'll be very fine off, not to say I don't think she deserves something great, definitely more than $100,000
3clipse
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Canada2555 Posts
December 15 2011 11:48 GMT
#92
If I were a supervillain, this girl would be #1 on my kidnap list. Just think of the humanity-enslaving potential of laser-wielding nanomachines...
XXGeneration
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States625 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-15 11:59:51
December 15 2011 11:55 GMT
#93
Guys, remember this isn't a "Cure" it's a delivery system for drugs. It won't magically cure cancer, but it WILL make treatments easier on the body, allowing targeted treatment instead of simply giving a person drugs and hoping that they can kill the cancer before it kills them...


People need to realize this is not a cure for cancer, it is a delivery system for drugs.. I see everyone heralding the girl as a hero for developing a cure, but it's not. It's just a delivery system.

Edit: I realize this has been said on the front page already but people need to understand this.. There's a huge difference between "cure" and "effective delivery system".
"I was so surprised when I first played StarCraft 2. I couldn't believe that such an easy game exists... I guess the best way to attract people these days is to make things easy and simple." -Midas
Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
December 15 2011 11:59 GMT
#94
truly amazing, and always points to why sometimes, the answer is right in front of our face, we just have to look at it from a different view, or in this case, from a different pair of eyes.

people who are doubting this, realize, that while there ARE researchers around the world who ARE experienced trying at the exact same thing, sometimes it takes a different perspective to find the solution.

One such example is an article I think I read here, about how researchers have spent years trying to find a protein strand mapping that could better help the development of cures for diseases such as aids/cancer/etc but the greatest problem is trying to map it properly in 3d space. Years and years of trying and testing yielded improper results, but then they handed it over to a team of gamer minded tech people who solve 3d space things using a game and they solved it in 48 hours.

I hope something truly great comes from this and good job to the girl for taking a life experience (her grandfather and great-grandfather's passing) and turning it into motivation to do something amazing. Wish I had that drive.
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
December 15 2011 12:00 GMT
#95
On December 15 2011 20:55 XXGeneration wrote:
People need to realize this is not a cure for cancer, it is a delivery system for drugs.. I see everyone heralding the girl as a hero for developing a cure, but it's not. It's just a delivery system.


Cancer get cured every week it seems, huh ^^

For anyone interested in this sort of thing, a lot of info is posted really fast here

http://www.reddit.com/r/science

r/science is heavily moderated as well, so don't worry about the general mob ruining discussions
chenchen
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1136 Posts
December 15 2011 12:00 GMT
#96
On December 15 2011 19:12 ]343[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 15 2011 18:07 chenchen wrote:
On December 15 2011 18:03 Lightwip wrote:
On December 15 2011 18:00 chenchen wrote:
I don't want to sound like a dick and diminish anyone's hard work, but from personal experience, most (not all) of the projects that get deep in Intel and Siemens are basically done by the students' mentors. In many cases, all the high school kid has to do is to tag along and try to understand what's going on and some of them don't even understand their own projects.


But of course. How can anyone without a full scientific education hope to solve such a problem on their own when a Ph.D. can't do the same?
Medicine takes a lot of hard work, collaboration, and education. It's not possible for a high school student to do more than just a little bit.


I just want to make sure that people don't blow the news out of proportion.

Every year, dozens of high school students bust out impressive sounding projects at Intel and Siemens finals that are more likely than not the work of their "mentors", as most competitive schools nowadays have mentorship programs that pair up kids with researchers that have PhDs.

To be honest, these kids are probably much less impressive than International Math Olympiad competitors, and yet get so much more attention in the news because it's much easier to report "girl cures cancer" than "dude solves problem that 99% of our readers/viewers can't understand".


lol, it's a little unclear (though I'd say the average IMO gold medalist is "more impressive" than the average Intel finalist.) But when you have big companies sponsoring you for big $$$ (which, incidentally, doesn't quite exist in math competitions; #1 on USAMO gets $20k, whereas the top 5 in Siemens and Intel each get at least $20k), and who know how to do publicity, ... well, they get the publicity.

The fact that the research is in the medical field is just icing on the cake; moreover, so many top projects are biology/chemistry because what can a smart, ambitious high school student who still doesn't know very much do? She can work in a lab for 10 hours a week during the year and 40 a week during the summer, and have a 10% chance at getting good results (depending, of course, on mentor and location).

I also don't really agree that the mentors "do everything": they're going to make sure the high schooler does the grunt work in the lab--but the high schooler doesn't exactly get a terrible deal either: they learn lab technique and scientific communication, and get a chance at big money. Not to mention a chance at meeting other smart kids at these competitions, too.

The few and far between who do theoretical projects are usually unfortunately limited by their knowledge. It's hard to do representation theory if you barely know what a module is; it's hard to study superconductivity if you don't know any quantum mechanics. So each year, lots of smart kids work their butts off in lab, and some (a) have that extra drive and/or (b) get lucky and win competitions. It's not something so amazing that everyone should immediately know about it, but it's pretty impressive nonetheless. (The same can be said for IMO, except the problem there is that most of advanced Olympiad math is kind of worthless outside of contests. And again, publicity for Siemens/Intel happens because they know what they're doing and have the money to spend.)

... ok I'm not sure what I just ranted about, since it's 5 AM, but hopefully I responded to something someone said. T_T

Edit: Hmm, I guess I concede the point that it's easier to talk about "curing cancer" than "solving some geometry problem with techniques that no one ever uses outside math contests" (read: harmonic conjugates... Casey's theorem... sigh.)


I just pointed some stuff out because it's really annoying when media reports on these things when the high schooler actually doesn't know . . . . anything. I made the contrast with IMO because IMO contestants seriously know their shit and how to apply it in a setting devoid of outside help.
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FIStarcraft
Profile Joined June 2011
United States154 Posts
December 15 2011 12:21 GMT
#97
Pffft, we knew about this on the Funny Pics Thread ages ago.
"sunny... sunny... sunny... OHGOD HURRICANE" - Haemonculus
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
December 15 2011 12:22 GMT
#98
It's so frustrating when I come in these topics and news articles looking for more specifics than the hype of "17 year old cures cancer (with nanoparticles)!" I'm not really sure if it's the ignorance of people thinking she's done something new, or the thought that saying something as bland as that qualifies as an informative statement.
VTPerfect
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States487 Posts
December 15 2011 12:25 GMT
#99
feel nothing at all.
GoBackToGo
Profile Joined July 2010
187 Posts
December 15 2011 12:28 GMT
#100
i created a super cancer-killing nanoparticle and all i got was 100.000$.
does siemens buy the technology by giving here that price?
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