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On December 11 2011 12:18 semantics wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 11 2011 12:16 aethereality wrote:
For anyone used to Fahrenheit that has issues understanding Celsius, it is quite easy if you just remember the following:
-40 is reaaaaallly cold, and equal to -40 Fahrenheit.
0 degrees is the temperature at which water freezes.
10 degrees is a little bit chilly
20 degrees is a perfect summer day
28 degrees is sweat-dripping weather (around 82 degrees F)
35 degrees is air-conditioner killing, extreme, sweltering, desert heat
40 degrees is awful
82f is sweat dripping weather that's a perfect summer day.
All subjective I suppose! I'm Canadian so 28 C is kinda uncomfortably hot. It's certainly better than what we deal with in December, though.
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On December 11 2011 12:16 aethereality wrote:
For anyone used to Fahrenheit that has issues understanding Celsius, it is quite easy if you just remember the following:
-40 is reaaaaallly cold, and equal to -40 Fahrenheit.
-20 starts to nip at the skin a bit
-10 is pleasantly cold, snowman weather
0 degrees is the temperature at which water freezes.
10 degrees is a little bit chilly
20 degrees is a perfect summer day
28 degrees is sweat-dripping weather (around 82 degrees F)
35 degrees is air-conditioner killing, extreme, sweltering, desert heat
40 degrees is awful
What the hell? Are you a bloody snowma... oh, you're Canadian. Ok, let me fix this up;
-40 will kill you, and your body will shatter if struck
-20 will kill you, but maybe a few seconds earlier
-10 wil kill you, and you will suffer all of the way
0 degrees will make you wish you were in hell, because it's warm there
10 degrees is realllly cold
20 degrees is pretty chilly
28 degrees isn't too bad, perfect day
35 degrees is the perfect summer day
40 degrees is like, the upper limit for beach weather. Not optimum, but still, a great time to kick it back on the sand!
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lol the last few posts are pretty much the only reason I don't mind the fact that this thread has been clogging general for over a day now. As a Canadian living in Australia, I would like to say that aethereality has things exactly right, going outside anytime except april-september here is death for me :p
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american, so we use standard in daily lives.
however, in science and math classes (physics, calculus, chemistry, etc.), we used metric.
america should switch to the metric system, but its not going to happen. they have tried before in congress, but it failed.
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On December 11 2011 12:31 Bobble wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 12:16 aethereality wrote:
For anyone used to Fahrenheit that has issues understanding Celsius, it is quite easy if you just remember the following:
-40 is reaaaaallly cold, and equal to -40 Fahrenheit.
-20 starts to nip at the skin a bit
-10 is pleasantly cold, snowman weather
0 degrees is the temperature at which water freezes.
10 degrees is a little bit chilly
20 degrees is a perfect summer day
28 degrees is sweat-dripping weather (around 82 degrees F)
35 degrees is air-conditioner killing, extreme, sweltering, desert heat
40 degrees is awful
What the hell? Are you a bloody snowma... oh, you're Canadian. Ok, let me fix this up; -40 will kill you, and your body will shatter if struck -20 will kill you, but maybe a few seconds earlier -10 will kill you, and you will suffer all of the way 0 degrees will make you wish you were in hell, because it's warm there 10 degrees is realllly cold 20 degrees is pretty chilly 28 degrees isn't too bad, perfect day 35 degrees is the perfect summer day 40 degrees is like, the upper limit for beach weather. Not optimum, but still, a great time to kick it back on the sand!
I work outside in Alberta, Canada (one of the coldest provinces) and yeah -40 is REALLY cold lol. We maybe average 10 or so days in the winter that hit -40. Sometimes more, sometimes less than that average. Its the wind that really gets you, not so much the cold air. Even a slight breeze and its miserabley cold on the body.
As for OP, I use both. Working construction, everyone I know uses standard over metric when measuring. Everything is measured in inches 1/2 inches 1/4 inches 1/8iches and 1/16inches. Sometimes however, drawings come in millimeters rather than inches. So I guess both are used.
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Guide to temperature in Standard aka Farenheit:
20 degrees is insta-freeze
40 degrees is freezing
60 degrees is super cold
80 degrees is nice-ish
90 degrees is awesome
100 degrees is normal
110 degrees is no big deal
120 degrees is slightly hot
I live in Arizona btw, feelings may differ across the country 
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I think that metric is alltogether the best system because of easy conversions, but the reason that the imperial system in the US hasn't been changed is because when you think about it, the the measurements in the imperial system actually relate to everyday life pretty well. If you really examine the imperial system, you'll find that it's set up very cleverly to relate to common quantities that people will encounter in their everyday lives (except for our temperature system, that's messed up). So much so that conversion between units in the imperial system is often times not necessary. Therefore the logic in the United States is that if it's not broken, don't fix it. The imperial system has been so ingrained into our culture that it's impossible to switch. Too all those outside the States: if the imperial system were that terribly complex, we would have switched a long time ago like the scientific community switched to the metric system.
Telling the United States to change its system of measurement is like telling the Chinese to change its system of writing because phonetic systems of writing are easier to learn. It would make things a whole lot easier, but it's not going to happen.
*Note: The metric system is completely and totally the superior system.
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It's not really a matter of preference the way you pose the topic's question.
Either you were born and raised in the US and have been socialized to accept and use the standard system (though you may have qualms with it) unless you have a class/profession in which using only the metric system makes sense, you will "use" and better conceptional the values of standard measurements.
Or you were not born and raised in the US and therefore have no social inclinations to ever use the "standard" system, and instead use the better-in-every-possible-way-imaginable metric system.
I'm a member of the former, and thus it's harder for me to conceptualize distances and masses in terms of metric measurements and easier for me to conceptualize distances/weights/temps etc. in standard, though I understand and agree that the metric system is more universally accepted and preferable.
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On December 11 2011 13:33 Zerksys wrote:
I think that metric is alltogether the best system because of easy conversions, but the reason that the imperial system in the US hasn't been changed is because when you think about it, the the measurements in the imperial system actually relate to everyday life pretty well. If you really examine the imperial system, you'll find that it's set up very cleverly to relate to common quantities that people will encounter in their everyday lives (except for our temperature system, that's messed up). So much so that conversion between units in the imperial system is often times not necessary. Therefore the logic in the United States is that if it's not broken, don't fix it. The imperial system has been so ingrained into our culture that it's impossible to switch. Too all those outside the States: if the imperial system were that terribly complex, we would have switched a long time ago like the scientific community switched to the metric system.
Telling the United States to change its system of measurement is like telling the Chinese to change its system of writing because phonetic systems of writing are easier to learn. It would make things a whole lot easier, but it's not going to happen.
*Note: The metric system is completely and totally the superior system.
Americans are slowly starting to switch to metric.
Really, these kinds of threads end up just as opportunity to criticize America. Anyways, Americans are starting to use metric more because its better. American public schools these days teach both and in high school science classes they often use just metric for measurements. Thats what happened when I was in high school.
Also, I have a friend in the military and he says that they use only metric. I think that is pretty meaningful. At least our nations military leaders is smart enough to have completely changed. People, Americans aren't as stupid as you think, get over it.
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On December 11 2011 13:01 NationInArms wrote:Guide to temperature in Standard aka Farenheit: 20 degrees is insta-freeze 40 degrees is freezing 60 degrees is super cold 80 degrees is nice-ish 90 degrees is awesome 100 degrees is normal 110 degrees is no big deal 120 degrees is slightly hot I live in Arizona btw, feelings may differ across the country
Haha so different for me near NYC :p
First of all, your choice of words, "freezing" for 40 degrees is a bit silly.
Saying 60 is super cold is probably the most surprising to me because you barely need a light jacket or long sleeves when it's 60 F here. Obviously we tend to have higher humidity. 80 is niceish would seem weird here since 80 here means I'm sweating; especially in the sun. 90 is awesome also seems strange since at 90 degrees I'm at risk of getting sick if I move around too much in the sun XD
100 here is ~ the hottest day of the year :p
120F here (actual temperature, not heat index) would be the apocalypse.
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I don't understand what is the point of lbs and how it relates to anything. lbs and F are the stupid units. But the worst by far is measuring volume and area. sq inches, sq feet, sq yards .. whats the relationship between them? gallon, pint, quart, wtf!
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This is the US arrogance everyone hates, calling a system "Standard", when its a retarded system and that only the US use.
Metric is the defacto standard system, you are just using Imperial System, because frankly you guys are kind of dumb (i tried to come up with something else to explain why you still using this system but i couldnt, inc temp ban ;( )
User was temp banned for this post.
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On December 11 2011 13:41 white_horse wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2011 13:33 Zerksys wrote:
I think that metric is alltogether the best system because of easy conversions, but the reason that the imperial system in the US hasn't been changed is because when you think about it, the the measurements in the imperial system actually relate to everyday life pretty well. If you really examine the imperial system, you'll find that it's set up very cleverly to relate to common quantities that people will encounter in their everyday lives (except for our temperature system, that's messed up). So much so that conversion between units in the imperial system is often times not necessary. Therefore the logic in the United States is that if it's not broken, don't fix it. The imperial system has been so ingrained into our culture that it's impossible to switch. Too all those outside the States: if the imperial system were that terribly complex, we would have switched a long time ago like the scientific community switched to the metric system.
Telling the United States to change its system of measurement is like telling the Chinese to change its system of writing because phonetic systems of writing are easier to learn. It would make things a whole lot easier, but it's not going to happen.
*Note: The metric system is completely and totally the superior system. Americans are slowly starting to switch to metric. Really, these kinds of threads end up just as opportunity to criticize America. Anyways, Americans are starting to use metric more because its better. American public schools these days teach both and in high school science classes they often use just metric for measurements. Thats what happened when I was in high school. Also, I have a friend in the military and he says that they use only metric. I think that is pretty meaningful. At least our nations military leaders is smart enough to have completely changed. People, Americans aren't as stupid as you think, get over it.
I think the criticizing was more pronounced than it normally would be because the OP used "Standard" for the Imperial system. Sure it's standard in the states to use it, but it's not the standard world-wide, so people just knee-jerked "LOL AMERICA U STUPID."
I hope the Americans are changing. I'd rather keep all my units the same, rather than constantly have to keep in mind the conversions formulas. In the kitchen we use Fahrenheit, rest of the time we use Celsius... for some reason, pool water temperature is done in Fahrenheit, go figure. Most of construction/clothing we use inches. (But we are so heavily influenced by Americans, so they stick around) Height/Weight is imperial here when you talk to others, but institutions use metric.
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On December 11 2011 13:54 SwimSwam wrote:
This is the US arrogance everyone hates, calling a system "Standard", when its a retarded system and that only the US use.
Metric is the defacto standard system, you are just using Imperial System, because frankly you guys are kind of dumb (i tried to come up with something else to explain why you still using this system but i couldnt, inc temp ban ;( )
thanks for adding to the discussion. it is our fault that we grew up around the system and thus use it so i'm glad you picked up on that.
not every american created and named the system as it stands, just fyi
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On December 11 2011 13:54 SwimSwam wrote:
This is the US arrogance everyone hates, calling a system "Standard", when its a retarded system and that only the US use.
Metric is the defacto standard system, you are just using Imperial System, because frankly you guys are kind of dumb (i tried to come up with something else to explain why you still using this system but i couldnt, inc temp ban ;( )
Because whoever named it "standard" totally decided to do it because he or she wanted to troll the rest of the world with "america is the best and you suck". Yeah thats totally true. Most of the older people here grew up learning imperial system, its not their fault they don't know metric. But your from venezuala...and we all know they hate america...
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Is this discussion still going on??? for pages and pages and pages?? Some e-peen contest between US and Europe..? There are a LOT more interesting threads to go into "en masse" on this magnificent site people!
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this is kind of a strange topic for me... Everyone here in Canada needs to use both. I work at Fastenal so we sell Metric + SAE
If you look at things built in north america, typically the standard sized parts are cheaper, they are more readily available, even though both Metric + Standard bolts are manufactured overseas, the reality is standard nuts and bolts are still more common than metric ones.
I mean everyone here uses metric for distance, speed, volume, weight, etc. but even then that still goes both ways... How many people do you know that say how much they weigh in Kilograms? I have only ever seen European people speak that way. You would be very hard pressed to find someone born in NA that says "I weigh xx kg".
In Canada we use KM USA uses Miles so there are even disputes within our own continent
I would imagine almost all countries in the world use both in one way or another... you probably just don't realize it. I have never been to europe but I know that british use pounds which is a standard measurement and anything built in NA will consist of standard measurements for the most part.
And the major failure of this Poll is that TIME, in every country in the world, is calculated in standard. There IS a way to calculate time in Metric and very few people use it, I think it mostly is used to build computers. 24 hours in a day is not divisible by 10
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On December 09 2011 13:35 Navillus wrote:Since when was the continental or imperial system called standard? That seems very US-Centric, and as to the question I use imperial because I'm in the US and we do dumb things like teach kids this system but I think we should 100% switch to metric. Edit - Also those reasons to use standard seem to be based on having been taught standard in the first place, it's only more intuitive if it's what you grew up with, I'm sure 400 ml could be just as intuitive as 12 ounces if it's what you're used to. Also relevant - The Oatmeal
Exactly what I thought when I read the title. Standard... lol. At least put in the effort to figure out what your talking about before you talk about it...
And the same agreement with your edit. Just because you grew up with feet and inches and you're used to how they work, doesn't mean someone can't grow up with another form of measurement that just intuitively makes sense to them after their whole life.
C'mon man...
On December 11 2011 13:01 NationInArms wrote:Guide to temperature in Standard aka Farenheit: 20 degrees is insta-freeze 40 degrees is freezing 60 degrees is super cold 80 degrees is nice-ish 90 degrees is awesome 100 degrees is normal 110 degrees is no big deal 120 degrees is slightly hot I live in Arizona btw, feelings may differ across the country
Freezing for the 40 degree was a bad choice... And the Arizona thing is important lol... I'm from AZ too, and it doesn't get to 120 in many other places, so while its a normal summer day for us, most people in the US would think they're dying
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On December 09 2011 13:51 tnt_titan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 09 2011 13:43 Keyboard Warrior wrote:On December 09 2011 13:38 Ryndika wrote:I'm from country that doesn't use standard but when I'm drawing I think about things in feets and inches. I have no idea why, though, heheh. I wonder if in USA where you use standard, you also use metric? No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet. but that's using 3rd dimension also, right? please tell me where i can buy 0.3x0.3x3.6 meter wood canadian home depot and i say half a meter...i haven't seen anyone say 50 centimeters as opposed to half a meter
ummmm no that is just simply not true. our wood is measured in feet as well
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This is rather silly...
The US overwhelming continues to use the Standard system; the rest of the world uses metric. One exception to US is in sciences, where the metric system is used in accordance with the rest of the world.
Basically, this poll is asking if you're from the US or not...
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