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Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
December 10 2011 22:26 GMT
#821
can't believe there is an actual debate about this. One system was made up to be a better system than the other, that is the entire reason for it existing. The majority of people went "this system is bollocks, lets make up one that makes sense."
DerNebel
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Denmark648 Posts
December 10 2011 22:43 GMT
#822
On December 11 2011 07:26 Hynda wrote:
can't believe there is an actual debate about this. One system was made up to be a better system than the other, that is the entire reason for it existing. The majority of people went "this system is bollocks, lets make up one that makes sense."

It's not exactly a debate. It's more like the first post making some ignorant remarks and the rest of the thread going "HERPA DERPA what is this i dont even".

Metric is just better. It was designed to be better for both everyday and scientific use and the succeded. The only reason someone would think "Standard"" (imperial) is easier to work with under any circumstance is because of habit.
Frigo
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary1023 Posts
December 10 2011 23:05 GMT
#823
We do measure drinks in deciliters and liters: 2dl, 3dl, half a liter, 1l, 2l. It's pretty convenient actually.

The worst imperial can offer is when measuring heights of people.

Another of my pet peeves is retarded date formats like mm-dd-yyyy or dd-mm-yyyy. Apart from being an ISO standard, the only reasonable date format is yyyy-mm-dd.
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Floobie
Profile Joined February 2011
England296 Posts
December 10 2011 23:14 GMT
#824
Imperial i use for, Miles per hour, Miles per Gallon, Miles, Stone (A persons weight), Height, Construction supplies, Buying Fruit\Veg, probably some other things that im not thinking of.

In England (Much like the USA), Imperial was the norm, but we changed to metric. I grew up learning Imperial and kind of switched to Metric in my childhood. I know most Metric measurements but as i said, i still use Imperial for some things, and i find myself freely changing whether i use Imperial or Metric depending on who im talking to. Like my dad i would give the measurement in inchs, but my sister i would give it in centimetres.
Gummy
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2180 Posts
December 10 2011 23:20 GMT
#825
People who use Imperial instead of Metric, should be crushed under 2000 pounds of stone and have their bodies dragged 7 miles until their corpses are bloodied and unrecognizable.
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Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
December 10 2011 23:35 GMT
#826
Funny how a base difference (the first easier or not) for describing the same space (in mathematical sense) can lead to people debating wether one is better or not.

But besides, I use metric, because I learned it that way and everyting in society here is handled that way (as far as I know, there might be exceptions). And unlike someone mentioned in this thread, I DO get a 400 ml drink.
I think there is nothing wrong with either of them. I'm convinced in daily life both of them are used because of habit, not because one is better, or more logical. I agree the metrical system is easier for scientific purposes, but in daily life, it doesn't make any difference
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 10 2011 23:38 GMT
#827
On December 11 2011 08:20 Gummy wrote:
People who use Imperial instead of Metric, should be crushed under 2000 pounds of stone and have their bodies dragged 7 miles until their corpses are bloodied and unrecognizable.


I assume you are just trying to be funny/sarcastic.
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JayJay_90
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1632 Posts
December 10 2011 23:41 GMT
#828
On December 09 2011 13:32 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet.

wtf of course i do that :D
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
December 10 2011 23:42 GMT
#829
On December 11 2011 08:05 Frigo wrote:
We do measure drinks in deciliters and liters: 2dl, 3dl, half a liter, 1l, 2l. It's pretty convenient actually.

The worst imperial can offer is when measuring heights of people.

Another of my pet peeves is retarded date formats like mm-dd-yyyy or dd-mm-yyyy. Apart from being an ISO standard, the only reasonable date format is yyyy-mm-dd.


Why in the world is yyyy-mm-dd better than dd-mm-yyyy?
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
December 10 2011 23:46 GMT
#830
On December 11 2011 08:41 JayJay_90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 13:32 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet.

wtf of course i do that :D

I think the point being made was simply that imperial units lend themselves to everyday use better, at least in practical usage. Metric is a lot more logical but it's not scaled as well to the amounts/distances we normally measure.

It doesn't really matter either way since metric is the standard unit for anything scientific or international in the same way English is the universal language. When it really matters people use metric.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
December 10 2011 23:47 GMT
#831
On December 11 2011 08:42 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 08:05 Frigo wrote:
We do measure drinks in deciliters and liters: 2dl, 3dl, half a liter, 1l, 2l. It's pretty convenient actually.

The worst imperial can offer is when measuring heights of people.

Another of my pet peeves is retarded date formats like mm-dd-yyyy or dd-mm-yyyy. Apart from being an ISO standard, the only reasonable date format is yyyy-mm-dd.


Why in the world is yyyy-mm-dd better than dd-mm-yyyy?

I think because we read right-to-left, so we start at the largest and go to the smallest to pinpoint the date logically? I'd prefer day first since I'd usually already know the year and month offhand though.
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 23:48:08
December 10 2011 23:47 GMT
#832
On December 11 2011 08:42 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 08:05 Frigo wrote:
We do measure drinks in deciliters and liters: 2dl, 3dl, half a liter, 1l, 2l. It's pretty convenient actually.

The worst imperial can offer is when measuring heights of people.

Another of my pet peeves is retarded date formats like mm-dd-yyyy or dd-mm-yyyy. Apart from being an ISO standard, the only reasonable date format is yyyy-mm-dd.


Why in the world is yyyy-mm-dd better than dd-mm-yyyy?


I use yyyy-mm-dd for naming files ("yyyymmddFILENAME.XXX"), so than they get sorted correctly (newer to older) when organized by name in windows.
SEKO SEKO SEKO
Imbattable
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany85 Posts
December 10 2011 23:48 GMT
#833
On December 11 2011 08:42 Ghostcom wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 08:05 Frigo wrote:
We do measure drinks in deciliters and liters: 2dl, 3dl, half a liter, 1l, 2l. It's pretty convenient actually.

The worst imperial can offer is when measuring heights of people.

Another of my pet peeves is retarded date formats like mm-dd-yyyy or dd-mm-yyyy. Apart from being an ISO standard, the only reasonable date format is yyyy-mm-dd.


Why in the world is yyyy-mm-dd better than dd-mm-yyyy?


Could be because you get more precise going from left to right, just with other time units: Hour:Minute:Second

I always get confused by mm-dd-yy xD
Grajen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden24 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 23:53:35
December 10 2011 23:51 GMT
#834
On December 11 2011 08:46 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 08:41 JayJay_90 wrote:
On December 09 2011 13:32 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet.

wtf of course i do that :D

I think the point being made was simply that imperial units lend themselves to everyday use better, at least in practical usage. Metric is a lot more logical but it's not scaled as well to the amounts/distances we normally measure.

It doesn't really matter either way since metric is the standard unit for anything scientific or international in the same way English is the universal language. When it really matters people use metric.


At least in Sweden metric works very well for practical usage and lends itself much better for everyday use than the imperial would. I often buy 1 liter of milk, 1 or 1/2 kg potatoes or 1 meter planks. Depending on what system the country uses I guess things gets scaled to fit the system better. Its easier to market 1 liter milk than 0.789 liters of milk, therefore people sell 1 liter of milk. If I would use imperial in Sweden I would have to buy 1.76 pt of milk (if the milk stays the same volume)
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hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
December 10 2011 23:52 GMT
#835
On December 11 2011 08:47 DontGiveUp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 08:42 Ghostcom wrote:
On December 11 2011 08:05 Frigo wrote:
We do measure drinks in deciliters and liters: 2dl, 3dl, half a liter, 1l, 2l. It's pretty convenient actually.

The worst imperial can offer is when measuring heights of people.

Another of my pet peeves is retarded date formats like mm-dd-yyyy or dd-mm-yyyy. Apart from being an ISO standard, the only reasonable date format is yyyy-mm-dd.


Why in the world is yyyy-mm-dd better than dd-mm-yyyy?


I use yyyy-mm-dd for naming files ("yyyymmddFILENAME.XXX"), so than they get sorted correctly (newer to older) when organized by name in windows.

You can just sort by date created (or modified) and name them normally...
It has the same effect but doesn't look as silly.
THM
Profile Joined November 2010
Bulgaria1131 Posts
December 10 2011 23:53 GMT
#836
On December 11 2011 08:20 Gummy wrote:
People who use Imperial instead of Metric, should be crushed under 2000 pounds of stone and have their bodies dragged 7 miles until their corpses are bloodied and unrecognizable.


I agree with this.

Also, as a person above said, HERPA DERPA what is this i don't even



But yeah, here in Bulgaria everyone uses metric and I don't understand why people would think "standard" is more convenient.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 23:57:04
December 10 2011 23:54 GMT
#837
On December 11 2011 08:51 Grajen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 08:46 hmunkey wrote:
On December 11 2011 08:41 JayJay_90 wrote:
On December 09 2011 13:32 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet.

wtf of course i do that :D

I think the point being made was simply that imperial units lend themselves to everyday use better, at least in practical usage. Metric is a lot more logical but it's not scaled as well to the amounts/distances we normally measure.

It doesn't really matter either way since metric is the standard unit for anything scientific or international in the same way English is the universal language. When it really matters people use metric.


At least in Sweden metric works very well for practical usage and lends itself much better for everyday use than the imperial would. I often buy 1 liter of milk, 1 or 1/2 kg potatoes or 1 meter planks. Depending on what system the country uses I guess things gets scaled to fit the system better. Its easier to market 1 liter milk than 0.789 liters of milk, therefore people sell 1 liter of milk.

Yeah but that's one of the big barriers to switching. No company in the US wants to be the first to switch to a new measurement since they would inevitably lose money.

Any change in what you sell leads to changes in purchasing. This is why packaging and design change so rarely.


On December 11 2011 05:51 SF-Fork wrote:
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On December 11 2011 03:52 Forikorder wrote:
i use both styles in my work as a cook

when weighing things its better to use grams since its easier to get more accurate

and for temprerature its better to use F for the same reason



How is F more accurate than C for cooking? I mean, in C you use 0 for freezing ater and 100 for boiling, while in F you use 32 and 212. I would say a 0-100 system is easier to measure than 32-212...

EDIT: according to wiki the F scale is official only in the US, Cayman Islands and Belize. Now that's stuborness.

It's more accurate because there are more units. Going from 32 - 212 has a lot more steps than 0 - 100 so unless you want to use decimals, F allows you to be more accurate. Of course C is a lot more logical, but that doesn't really apply to the accuracy.
Pulimuli
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Sweden2766 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-10 23:56:39
December 10 2011 23:55 GMT
#838
The imperial system made sense in the stone age when humans had not invented practical tools for measurement. Nowadays its just ridiculous measuring things with feet, stones etc.
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
December 10 2011 23:59 GMT
#839
im american
i HATE standard, we NEED metric
why do i measure my liquids for work in ml, l, and so on, but then i get to a store and do gallons and pints? wtf this makes no sense, quarts, pints, ugh
and physics problems back in college that used standard, omfg that was so imba, i hated that stuff
foot pound? slug? wtf a slug is a small creature with no spine... ugh
North Korea is best Korea!
bertu
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil871 Posts
December 10 2011 23:59 GMT
#840
On December 11 2011 08:52 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 08:47 DontGiveUp wrote:
On December 11 2011 08:42 Ghostcom wrote:
On December 11 2011 08:05 Frigo wrote:
We do measure drinks in deciliters and liters: 2dl, 3dl, half a liter, 1l, 2l. It's pretty convenient actually.

The worst imperial can offer is when measuring heights of people.

Another of my pet peeves is retarded date formats like mm-dd-yyyy or dd-mm-yyyy. Apart from being an ISO standard, the only reasonable date format is yyyy-mm-dd.


Why in the world is yyyy-mm-dd better than dd-mm-yyyy?


I use yyyy-mm-dd for naming files ("yyyymmddFILENAME.XXX"), so than they get sorted correctly (newer to older) when organized by name in windows.

You can just sort by date created (or modified) and name them normally...
It has the same effect but doesn't look as silly.


That is what I used to do, but sometimes I would open an old file, see a mistake and fix it, and this would screw up the chronological order using the sort by date method.
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