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BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
December 11 2011 00:01 GMT
#841
I use both. As a scientist I must be able to use metrics. I have used it to the point where I would be comfortable estimating in metrics for many cases. However I just don't have enough experience to be able to use metric for speeds.
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Fatalize
Profile Joined January 2011
France5210 Posts
December 11 2011 00:02 GMT
#842
Fahrenheit

This word alone describes well how awful the "standart" system is.

Can't even believe some people use this.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
December 11 2011 00:07 GMT
#843
On December 11 2011 08:46 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 08:41 JayJay_90 wrote:
On December 09 2011 13:32 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet.

wtf of course i do that :D

I think the point being made was simply that imperial units lend themselves to everyday use better, at least in practical usage. Metric is a lot more logical but it's not scaled as well to the amounts/distances we normally measure.

It doesn't really matter either way since metric is the standard unit for anything scientific or international in the same way English is the universal language. When it really matters people use metric.



again, wat?!

how is a foot or a yard any more practical than a meter?
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
December 11 2011 00:08 GMT
#844
On December 11 2011 08:20 Gummy wrote:
People who use Imperial instead of Metric, should be crushed under 2000 pounds of stone and have their bodies dragged 7 miles until their corpses are bloodied and unrecognizable.

How many stones of stones would that be?
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
December 11 2011 00:09 GMT
#845
On December 11 2011 09:08 revy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 11 2011 08:20 Gummy wrote:
People who use Imperial instead of Metric, should be crushed under 2000 pounds of stone and have their bodies dragged 7 miles until their corpses are bloodied and unrecognizable.

How many stones of stones would that be?

142, duuuuh!
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Wihl
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden472 Posts
December 11 2011 00:10 GMT
#846
This thread could just have been:

Are you from any of these countries?
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MrSalamandra
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom412 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 00:19:27
December 11 2011 00:18 GMT
#847
On December 11 2011 08:54 hmunkey wrote:
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On December 11 2011 08:51 Grajen wrote:
On December 11 2011 08:46 hmunkey wrote:
On December 11 2011 08:41 JayJay_90 wrote:
On December 09 2011 13:32 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet.

wtf of course i do that :D

I think the point being made was simply that imperial units lend themselves to everyday use better, at least in practical usage. Metric is a lot more logical but it's not scaled as well to the amounts/distances we normally measure.

It doesn't really matter either way since metric is the standard unit for anything scientific or international in the same way English is the universal language. When it really matters people use metric.


At least in Sweden metric works very well for practical usage and lends itself much better for everyday use than the imperial would. I often buy 1 liter of milk, 1 or 1/2 kg potatoes or 1 meter planks. Depending on what system the country uses I guess things gets scaled to fit the system better. Its easier to market 1 liter milk than 0.789 liters of milk, therefore people sell 1 liter of milk.

Yeah but that's one of the big barriers to switching. No company in the US wants to be the first to switch to a new measurement since they would inevitably lose money.

Any change in what you sell leads to changes in purchasing. This is why packaging and design change so rarely.


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On December 11 2011 05:51 SF-Fork wrote:
On December 11 2011 03:52 Forikorder wrote:
i use both styles in my work as a cook

when weighing things its better to use grams since its easier to get more accurate

and for temprerature its better to use F for the same reason



How is F more accurate than C for cooking? I mean, in C you use 0 for freezing ater and 100 for boiling, while in F you use 32 and 212. I would say a 0-100 system is easier to measure than 32-212...

EDIT: according to wiki the F scale is official only in the US, Cayman Islands and Belize. Now that's stuborness.

It's more accurate because there are more units. Going from 32 - 212 has a lot more steps than 0 - 100 so unless you want to use decimals, F allows you to be more accurate. Of course C is a lot more logical, but that doesn't really apply to the accuracy.


That doesn't really make it more accurate, just allows for more increments of temperature if, for some reason, you decide it's impossible to use non-integers. So really it only solves a problem that doesn't exist. You are allowed to use decimals.

Plus for cooking, it's not so delicate a process that you need that many increments. You could mostly go up in increments of 10°C and be fine, food doesn't explode because you're cooking it 0.5°C hotter than is ideal.
MasterBlasterCaster
Profile Joined October 2011
United States568 Posts
December 11 2011 00:20 GMT
#848
I definitely prefer the "standard" system. I know that metric is better for science and math, but I don't think in km, I think in miles. When I think km, I have to think "a little over half a mile".

I was under the impression that the US was the last country that used standard... is that true?
Meteora.GB
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada2479 Posts
December 11 2011 00:23 GMT
#849
Metric for the most part, because the rest of the world adopted it except for the US.

I use standard (isn't it called imperial?) for measuring my own height and all.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
December 11 2011 00:28 GMT
#850
On December 11 2011 05:30 thoradycus wrote:
metric, couldnt really give a fuck about "standard"


Metric is the standard.
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Nosforit
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada260 Posts
December 11 2011 00:33 GMT
#851
Only thing I use Imperial for is height. Its much easier to describe myself as 6'4" than 193cm. Everything else though, temperature, distance, volume, mass... all metric.
The time you enjoyed wasting was not wasted time.
Eogris
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States148 Posts
December 11 2011 00:37 GMT
#852
I would like the U.S. to use metric, but there's no hope. I use standard, but understand metric.
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iLikeRain
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark504 Posts
December 11 2011 01:08 GMT
#853
When you understand how the metric system works, you will realize that using the imperial system makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

The only reason some countries are still using the imperial is that it's too big a burden. But it's a very bad and flawed system.
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Kireak
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden358 Posts
December 11 2011 01:13 GMT
#854
The advantages of the standard system only applies in countries where a lot of people use it. There isn't a practical benefit to it otherwise except that you get better at counting with fractions in school.
ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
December 11 2011 01:44 GMT
#855
On December 11 2011 04:15 gyth wrote:
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On December 11 2011 03:46 Fission wrote:
Imperial isn't more "complex", what does that even mean? It just uses extremely random and arbitrary numbers for most of the units, which makes it a pain to manipulate.

It means that dealing with random and arbitrary numbers makes you better at dealing with random and arbitrary numbers.
A useful skill once you get to problems that involve looking up density/heat capacity/young's modulus/dielectric constant/whatever.

Uhm, what kind of real problem does not involve looking up constants hehe? I mean, it's not really a problem to use slug/ft^2 and stuff like that when the numbers are of decent magnitude. But when you are to calculate really big numbers or really small numbers, then it gets way more efficient to use a system where you can easily scale the number from 10 000m to 10km.
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gyth
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
657 Posts
December 11 2011 01:51 GMT
#856
On December 11 2011 10:44 ZpuX wrote:
But when you are to calculate really big numbers or really small numbers, then it gets way more efficient to use a system where you can easily scale the number from 10 000m to 10km.

Or just use scientific notation.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
Darthsanta13
Profile Joined July 2011
United States564 Posts
December 11 2011 02:52 GMT
#857
Like almost everyone else from USA, I use imperial but hate it. Thankfully I'm studying science/math/engineering so I can use the measures of volume, distance, and mass pretty much interchangeably. Temperature is still one of those things where I have trouble connecting relevance to values in celsius like I can for Fahrenheit. But I'm working on it. On a side note it helps that I ran track/xc in high school so I can do distance conversions super quick.

But yeah, looking forward to the day when we Americans convert over to a more logical system. But I'm not holding my breath.
aethereality
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada62 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-11 03:23:10
December 11 2011 03:16 GMT
#858
For anyone used to Fahrenheit that has issues understanding Celsius, it is quite easy if you just remember the following:

-40 is reaaaaallly cold, and equal to -40 Fahrenheit.

-20 starts to nip at the skin a bit

-10 is pleasantly cold, snowman weather

0 degrees is the temperature at which water freezes.

10 degrees is a little bit chilly

20 degrees is a perfect summer day

28 degrees is sweat-dripping weather (around 82 degrees F)

35 degrees is air-conditioner killing, extreme, sweltering, desert heat

40 degrees is awful
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
December 11 2011 03:18 GMT
#859
On December 11 2011 12:16 aethereality wrote:
For anyone used to Fahrenheit that has issues understanding Celsius, it is quite easy if you just remember the following:

-40 is reaaaaallly cold, and equal to -40 Fahrenheit.

0 degrees is the temperature at which water freezes.

10 degrees is a little bit chilly

20 degrees is a perfect summer day

28 degrees is sweat-dripping weather (around 82 degrees F)

35 degrees is air-conditioner killing, extreme, sweltering, desert heat

40 degrees is awful

82f is sweat dripping weather that's a perfect summer day.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
December 11 2011 03:25 GMT
#860
On December 11 2011 12:16 aethereality wrote:
For anyone used to Fahrenheit that has issues understanding Celsius, it is quite easy if you just remember the following:

-40 is reaaaaallly cold, and equal to -40 Fahrenheit.

-20 starts to nip at the skin a bit

-10 is pleasantly cold, snowman weather

0 degrees is the temperature at which water freezes.

10 degrees is a little bit chilly

20 degrees is a perfect summer day

28 degrees is sweat-dripping weather (around 82 degrees F)

35 degrees is air-conditioner killing, extreme, sweltering, desert heat

40 degrees is awful

10 is fuck i need a coat
20 is air-conditioned rooms
28 is a normal day
35 is hot out
40 is desert-ish, or in the sun on the hottest days in Singapore
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