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paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
December 09 2011 09:12 GMT
#221
I use Metric, my parents use Imperial (standard).The UK is a bit weird though, road signs are all in miles, you buy pints of milk but everything else is in cl or ml.
Who really buys 12 ounce drinks? Surely you would want a pint since that is the measurement for liquids using the old system?
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:19:56
December 09 2011 09:15 GMT
#222
On December 09 2011 18:10 Perdac Curall wrote:
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On December 09 2011 13:40 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
On December 09 2011 13:35 Nothingtosay wrote:
Standard because the US is nonsensical and refuses to adapt.

Edit: Also people say half a meter, half a kilometer, etc, all the time.

but then it is not technically appropriate, because the metric system is designed to have specific measures for fractions, like 500 meters or so. saying half a kilometer borrows from the logic of standard system, though there is nothing wrong with it


Actually it is the opposite. If you mean technically as in how to use it in a technical field, I can say in engineering which is my field that you MUST say 0.5 meters or even 0.231 meters and not 231 mm because in complex calculations you have to do everything in SI units otherwise the conversions can get complicated real fast, and the SI unit is the meter not mm or cm.


I study in electrical engineering, and we use mm all the time. The only rule is that you have to be consistent, which is probably what you tried to describe above. You can't have something in meters, and then something else in mm, as that will break your brain in complex calculations. But if everything is in mm, and the answer you're looking for is in mm, there is absolutely no reason to not save yourself some trouble with decimals, and just use "mm" instead of "0.xx" or worse "xx * 10^-3"
AlecPyron
Profile Joined May 2010
United States131 Posts
December 09 2011 09:16 GMT
#223
The advantages of Standard aren't advantages at as it is used the same way in metric. People used to metric will use the same way as people use in standard. Even the argument for industrial uses can be easily adapted in metric. People will use standard for those industrial purpose stuff because two of the biggest juggernauts in history use the system, so the rest of the world has to adapt to it too. I use both, but one thing about metric is you can imagine how it works even if you don't know exactly just by the name. Now with standard, "standard" means nothing, or you know or you just don't know, so if you don't know the rules of this system, you're just fucked till you get used to it.

Anyway, we don't really use these systems because they're convenient or whatever, they were "imposed" to us, so we're stuck with them.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
December 09 2011 09:17 GMT
#224
Metric, I'm not some kind of uncivilized monster.
pedduck
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Thailand468 Posts
December 09 2011 09:18 GMT
#225
Metric is not standard?????
Deleted_143
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia256 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:24:51
December 09 2011 09:18 GMT
#226
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mjxn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia939 Posts
December 09 2011 09:19 GMT
#227
On December 09 2011 17:56 Rye. wrote:

I personally would like to use kelvin instead of celcius, but that would confuse too many people.




What benefit would a normal person gain from using Kelvin instead of Celsius?

I don't think very much.
Laconic
Profile Joined June 2010
United States32 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:24:33
December 09 2011 09:20 GMT
#228
OP says no one buys 400 mL stuff at the store, which is literally true, but not an honest representation of how we measure beverages in the U.S. Liquor comes in 750 mL and 1.5 L containers--though it's common to call the former a "fifth" (of a gallon); soda comes in 20 oz, 1 L, or 2 L bottles; milk comes in quarts, half-gallons, and gallons.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:24:36
December 09 2011 09:21 GMT
#229
On December 09 2011 18:19 mjxn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 17:56 Rye. wrote:

I personally would like to use kelvin instead of celcius, but that would confuse too many people.




What benefit would a normal person gain from using Kelvin instead of Celsius?

I don't think very much.


Kelvin is 100 times easier to use in calculations, as it starts at 0 at absolute 0, so it can only go up. Celsius starts 0 at water freezing point, so you end up going into minus a lot of the time. Most temperature based equations is based on kelvin for this reason. For every day use, theres no difference, but then again, the same can be said for imperial vs metric. Its in calculations it really makes any difference.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 09 2011 09:23 GMT
#230
On December 09 2011 18:19 mjxn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 17:56 Rye. wrote:

I personally would like to use kelvin instead of celcius, but that would confuse too many people.




What benefit would a normal person gain from using Kelvin instead of Celsius?

I don't think very much.

What is double the thermal energy of a substance at 20' C?
This would be simple to do in Kelvin.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
MandoRelease
Profile Joined October 2010
France374 Posts
December 09 2011 09:24 GMT
#231
I use the standard metric system since it's the only one i've known for years. And i like it, I just don't see the point of the imperial system.
When you play the game of drones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground. Huge IMLosirA fan.
EdSlyB
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Portugal1621 Posts
December 09 2011 09:25 GMT
#232
On December 09 2011 13:32 Keyboard Warrior wrote:Technically, you don't say half meter but rather 50 centimeters or 500 millimeters.


Not entirely true. We often use 'half' fraction. Half a meter, two and half kilometer, etc... And altought it isn't very used nowadays people used to apply quarters 'quarters' to some measures too.

Metric, at home, at work and in all my country.
aka Wardo
mjxn
Profile Joined April 2011
Australia939 Posts
December 09 2011 09:25 GMT
#233
On December 09 2011 18:21 Excludos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:19 mjxn wrote:
On December 09 2011 17:56 Rye. wrote:

I personally would like to use kelvin instead of celcius, but that would confuse too many people.




What benefit would a normal person gain from using Kelvin instead of Celsius?

I don't think very much.


Kelvin is 100 times easier to use in calculations. For every day use, theres no difference, but then again, the same can be said for imperial vs metric. Its in calculations it really makes any difference.


I'm referring to the everyday usage for people.

0°C is when water freezes, 100°C is when water boils.

15°C means I better wear a long sleeve shirt and 35°C is when I should chuck a sickie and head to the beach
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:28:58
December 09 2011 09:28 GMT
#234
hah, from the OP
"Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink"
If you didnt grow up with Imperial then thats just wrong. People who use metric no exactly how much 333 ml, or how much 500ml are, there's absolutely nothing impractical or inconvenient about it.
"No one buys 5 meters of wood" Yea cause that doesnt make sense, just like you dont buy x feet of wood.
Both of the "advantages" in the OP are entirely untrue, there is absolutely no advantage in imperial whatsoever, except for not having to change.
But of course there's already been a billion TL threads about this and I dont even know why I posted this
beep boop
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
December 09 2011 09:28 GMT
#235
On December 09 2011 18:25 mjxn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2011 18:21 Excludos wrote:
On December 09 2011 18:19 mjxn wrote:
On December 09 2011 17:56 Rye. wrote:

I personally would like to use kelvin instead of celcius, but that would confuse too many people.




What benefit would a normal person gain from using Kelvin instead of Celsius?

I don't think very much.


Kelvin is 100 times easier to use in calculations. For every day use, theres no difference, but then again, the same can be said for imperial vs metric. Its in calculations it really makes any difference.


I'm referring to the everyday usage for people.

0°C is when water freezes, 100°C is when water boils.

15°C means I better wear a long sleeve shirt and 35°C is when I should chuck a sickie and head to the beach

Just add 273 to each of those and you're golden.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
NeoLearner
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Belgium1847 Posts
December 09 2011 09:29 GMT
#236
On December 09 2011 13:32 Keyboard Warrior wrote:
...
2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet.
....

This is true in both systems.
In America the price for fabric (or something similar) is probably listed as dollar/yard.
In Europe, the price is listed as euro/m.
An American football field is 100 yards. A European soccer field is 100 meters.
In America the speed signs say 60 mph max, in Europe they say 100khmh max.

it's a matter of convention. When everyone uses the same system, they will make and sell the stuff in a convenient quantity. I think your thinking errors comes from looking at the metric system from a standard view point.
For example, milk is sold in quarter liters, half liters, liters, 2 liters and 5 liters. Not in 354.882355 ml, which is what it would be if we would try to follow the standard system in Metric.

As for wood, this is sold / meter. And if it's fire wood, instead of selling by the kubic meter, it is sold as "stère"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stere
This is a kubic meter of stacked firewood. The more you know
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neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
December 09 2011 09:30 GMT
#237
If Imperial didn't exist, we would be using metric to measure our wood. If Metric didn't exist, we'd have to convert all the scientific constants.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24767 Posts
December 09 2011 09:31 GMT
#238
I've heard that learning two language while growing up instead of just one enhances many aspects of learning.

I wonder if learning two systems of measurement at the same time has the same effect.

My students use the American system in their every day lives and then metric in science class. The result? They are terrible at estimating quantities in metric because they are not used to them. Then again, they are bad at it using pounds/feet/etc also XD
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adacan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States117 Posts
December 09 2011 09:32 GMT
#239
metric system was invented by communists and further developed by terrorists. God handed us down the standard system on the 5th day of creation.
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8247 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-09 09:36:18
December 09 2011 09:35 GMT
#240
On December 09 2011 18:32 adacan wrote:
metric system was invented by communists and further developed by terrorists. God handed us down the standard system on the 5th day of creation.


I know you're joking, but allow me to answer straight anyways

the nazis built all the best roads in europe..
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