EPTSwitzerland declares piracy for personal use legal - Page 13
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bubblegumbo
Taiwan1296 Posts
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DamageControL
United States4222 Posts
On December 05 2011 08:46 Manit0u wrote: With how shitty the games have been lately I usually download them first to take them for a spin, if I like what I see I go and buy it (right now I have exactly 0 pirated games, last one was Skyrim which I started to hate after playing for 2-3 hours). What's wrong with testing out the product before you get it? They have test drives for cars. If it's shitty I'm saving the money, if it's good I'm buying it. Lol I hope the industry starts making 2 hours demos and proves that pirating isn't just people "testing" the game. edit: About how stealing gum somehow "prevents others from owning the stolen item": that is certainly a distinction between piracy and physical theft. You still have to show why preventing others from owning the stolen item is the only thing wrong with theft. | ||
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
On December 05 2011 10:45 OsoVega wrote: So? Just because someone may be a long time shopper at Wal-Mart does not justify making it legal for them to steal a pack of gum, even a single time. This is an issue of property rights, not of how much the violation of property rights hurts the producer or how the violators may simultaneously support the producer. Stealing gum prevents other people from having the gum. Copying digital files doesn't prevent anyone else from having the file. | ||
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iruel
Canada75 Posts
On December 05 2011 02:05 tnud wrote: If only we swedes would have stood up for our old laws like Switzerland did  So many studies and such yet hollywood is slowly winning over here.. EDIT: Sweden does have a law for "personal use" too, we get taxed for it instead which is a whole different matter. (We pay tax to a private organization... yep.) well in Canada we have pay a levy on all blank media (cd's, dvd's, cassettes, etc...) because people burn music on cd's.... oh wait its 2011. i havn't used a cd for anything other than a coaster in years. | ||
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HardMacro
Canada361 Posts
Screw you Swedes, for taking the best things in life  | ||
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On December 05 2011 11:39 HardMacro wrote: Fiber optics 100/100 down/up and now THIS? Screw you Swedes, for taking the best things in life well I suppose the swedish geography lessons are better at least. | ||
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Thebbeuttiffulland
Brazil288 Posts
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
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HardMacro
Canada361 Posts
On December 05 2011 11:41 Skilledblob wrote: well I suppose the swedish geography lessons are better at least. Jaja, Swiss =/= Swede, it's Sunday night I'm getting stimulated by all kinds of chemicals, don't be a typo nazi bro :D Edit: On December 05 2011 11:43 Thebbeuttiffulland wrote: i always liked sweden now i like them even more Lol, at least I only had the wrong demonym. | ||
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HydraLF
Hong Kong626 Posts
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
It isn't the government's responsibility to ensure their profitability, protect your citizens not your corporations. Unfortunately almost every other country in the world is going backwards in this regard. | ||
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Sfydjklm
United States9218 Posts
Gonna read more on taht as soon as i can. | ||
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
I wish my government was cool enough to allow piracy for personal use | ||
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
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Darkthur
France18 Posts
On December 05 2011 10:53 DamageControL wrote: Lol I hope the industry starts making 2 hours demos and proves that pirating isn't just people "testing" the game. Well with new AAA games, 2hours is more the full game than a demo.  | ||
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Dhalphir
Australia1305 Posts
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iokke
United States1179 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + So that I can travel to Switzerland faster to download my shit while residing amongst hot Swedish girls.. Actually all the confusion really made me laugh, hoping its more than normal cause OP is Swedish Though I'm not sure how I feel about that. I mean shouldn't whoever created the product decide whether or not its available for free? Even if there's no negative effect on the sales, it should still be up to the author.. Also the money brought in to internet providers should not even be factored in. | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On December 05 2011 10:45 OsoVega wrote: So? Just because someone may be a long time shopper at Wal-Mart does not justify making it legal for them to steal a pack of gum, even a single time. This is an issue of property rights, not of how much the violation of property rights hurts the producer or how the violators may simultaneously support the producer. Copyright isn't property. It's a monopoly granted by the state that can be revoked just as easily. | ||
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Rylaji
Sweden580 Posts
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Kooun
Canada260 Posts
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