EPTSwitzerland declares piracy for personal use legal - Page 15
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Le BucheRON
Canada619 Posts
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FabledIntegral
United States9232 Posts
On December 05 2011 08:46 Manit0u wrote: Seriously guys? First you go on about pirating everything and then make claims that it's bad because it hurts the PC gaming? First of all, you've got really bad attitute towards it. I sure as hell am downloading/pirating a lot of stuff but whenever I get the chance I do give credit where credit is due. I like the album I downloaded? I go and buy it. That's also why I buy things I really don't need or donate to sources of free entertainment I deem worthy. If I like a game or a piece of software that's free and it has some paid DLC, T-shirts, donate button or other way of getting voluntary revenue I'm all over it. With how shitty the games have been lately I usually download them first to take them for a spin, if I like what I see I go and buy it (right now I have exactly 0 pirated games, last one was Skyrim which I started to hate after playing for 2-3 hours). What's wrong with testing out the product before you get it? They have test drives for cars. If it's shitty I'm saving the money, if it's good I'm buying it. This way it's better for consumers and producers alike. Producers get free advertisement while consumers get 'test drives' and a sort of 'quality check' over producers, which need to make better products for people to be willing to buy the real deal after trying it out. @ FabledIntegral: So, a game that can provide you with 20+ hours of entertainment costs you 5 hours of your work and you're bitching about it? I earn 20% of what you are and I have no problem with buying original games and albums. And I've got mortgage to pay off, wife, kid and a second one on the way. Seriously, what's wrong with you people? And like you said, you pirate a ton of shit. I pay for my shit. That's where my money is going. What's wrong with testing out the product before you get it? Nothing, if the company doesn't mind. However, they do. No one is forcing you to buy the product. If you think it has the possibility of being shitty, just don't buy it. When you pirate something you're just copying a bunch of code (that the company spent hours and a tons of money on developing). So what's the point in buying said product after you pirate it. You already have the code. You're simply donating to the company. Companies need to rely on donations now to make money? What a joke. | ||
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Ninja [X]
Korea (South)40 Posts
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Yuljan
2196 Posts
On December 05 2011 10:44 Shorty90 wrote: Do you have a source for this? Because I live in germany and I'm pretty sure that this is wrong. Its a grey area I think. They can only persecute torrent users. | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
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nam nam
Sweden4672 Posts
On December 05 2011 14:26 Bacillus wrote: Interesting... I'm not completely sold on the 'dowloaders spend more' argument quite yet though. There are so many overlapping things with downloading, tech savvyness and content consumption that I could see the study finding out very different results depending on the way the research was done. I'd like to see English version of the research documentation if that ever gets translated. I'm sure if you compare "people that download a lot" with the general population I'm sure "downloaders spend more" is pretty accurate. But as you say if you compare "people that download a lot" with lets say people of the same age and income that don't you might come to a different conclusion. Maybe this study takes this into account but I agree it's not as simply as to look at the people that download and those who don't if you want an accurate description of the consequences. On December 05 2011 19:19 Brett wrote: Rofl @ people on first page who intend to move to -Sweden- ..... It happens surprisingly (?) a lot if you talk to people in other countries when you are traveling. | ||
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Brett
Australia3822 Posts
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Rawrsi
Australia55 Posts
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See.Blue
United States2673 Posts
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Skilledblob
Germany3392 Posts
On December 05 2011 17:59 FabledIntegral wrote: Companies need to rely on donations now to make money? What a joke. what companies should rely on is making good products. | ||
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impression
413 Posts
On December 05 2011 19:54 See.Blue wrote: Wow this makes Europe look like a great country to move to... I know where I'm headed soon... Europe's not a country, just saying  So if I have Swiss relatives, could I get them to download me music etc and then send it to me? | ||
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Enox
Germany1667 Posts
On December 05 2011 19:54 See.Blue wrote: Wow this makes Europe look like a great country to move to... I know where I'm headed soon... i'm a bit shocked | ||
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Streepwood
Sweden10 Posts
On December 05 2011 20:07 A_Bandersnatch wrote: Europe's not a country, just saying So if I have Swiss relatives, could I get them to download me music etc and then send it to me? 'Personal' would be the keyword in 'personal use'. | ||
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Zalman
Sweden65 Posts
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isleyofthenorth
Austria894 Posts
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tomtom2234
United States46 Posts
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blowfish
Austria238 Posts
On December 05 2011 20:27 Streepwood wrote: 'Personal' would be the keyword in 'personal use'. | ||
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
On December 05 2011 08:17 smokeyhoodoo wrote: Why is Swiss policy always so sensible? Because they have decentralized government, direct democracy, limited government authority, and strict adherence to the rule of law. That is why they are the most prosperous nation on earth. I just hope they can resist the immense pressure from the EU to control them. LOL no. | ||
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impression
413 Posts
On December 05 2011 20:27 Streepwood wrote: 'Personal' would be the keyword in 'personal use'. Well I was interpreting 'personal' more to mean that the pirates were not making a profit off of it or broadcasting it for groups of people, but you make your point. *Gets embarrassed and sits in corner. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
So much wrong with this statement.... 1. People use LimeWire still ROFL 2. Why download music for free to then buy it..... 3. LimeWire is so unsafe its untrue, so much Spyware you get from just one download Also i think the best way to combat "piracy" is just to make Spotify/Grooveshark more aware to the internet i mean you can listen to any song any time on spotify and grooveshark for so little a month or just use it for free but your not downloading it or taking it away from your computer which is fine imo. It should (and kinda does) work the same way with Films, going onto say lovefilm.com streaming the latest films or dvds to your computer for minimal fee per month (online blockbuster ftw) Piracy will always happen, because of how easy it is, there is probably a number of people if they know about the websites such as spotify/lovefilm/grooveshark who would use them to stream moveis and listen to songs instead of illegally downloading them because its easy. Piracy will always happen until you start to address the problems. Who really wants to pay £10/$10/10Euros for a Cinema ticket after all t.t or £10/$10/10Euros for a CD...its crazy, you can buy a pack of 50Burnable CDs for £10/$10/10Euros at computer fairs! | ||
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