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Keitzer
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2509 Posts
November 17 2011 03:30 GMT
#81
Your eyes use the curvature of the lens to not make it look like a friggin panoramic picture... if the 200 FOV didn't look stupid as shit (like it does in OP imo) then yes, please, make the FOV as high as possible... but as it stands, the FOV is pretty decent around 100-120
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CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
November 17 2011 03:34 GMT
#82
On November 17 2011 12:21 LoneWolf.Alpha- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2011 12:02 CatNzHat wrote:
You want your FoV in an FPS game to match the portion of your FoV that your monitor fills,

For example, my monitor fills 90* of my FoV, so when I play Quake, I set the FoV to 90*


i have this huge ass monitor, so i'd rather just sit really close to my monitor so the monitor takes up 100 degrees of my field of vision or something, and set fov to 100.

but preferably, i'd have 3 monitors that wrap around my head, and i'll set it to 180.


yea, I have 2 different monitor setups, I play at 110* on the larger (30") display, and 90* on the smaller (24") one.
Kontemptuous
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia132 Posts
November 17 2011 03:43 GMT
#83
This is the main reason why modern FPS games make me dizzy as hell and can't play COD/BF at all :/
I'm just thankful Skyrim has a 3rd person option, or else I wouldn't be able to enjoy it o/*
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John Madden
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
American Samoa894 Posts
November 17 2011 04:05 GMT
#84
Because of consoles that is all there is to it.
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ItsYoungLee
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)227 Posts
November 17 2011 04:07 GMT
#85
You THINK you have that much vision, but you actually don't. The area that you can actually see and focus on is probably around 45 degrees. The rest, your brain makes you think that you can see but in actuality the resolution is pretty worthless.
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gogogadgetflow
Profile Joined March 2010
United States2583 Posts
November 17 2011 04:08 GMT
#86
This thread reminds me how happy I was when minecraft got a FOV slider which goes from "narrow" to "quake pro"

Seems simple enough so why shouldn't people be able to do it in skyrim if they have the machine for it.
TheDraken
Profile Joined July 2011
United States640 Posts
November 17 2011 04:18 GMT
#87
On November 17 2011 13:07 ItsYoungLee wrote:
You THINK you have that much vision, but you actually don't. The area that you can actually see and focus on is probably around 45 degrees. The rest, your brain makes you think that you can see but in actuality the resolution is pretty worthless.


doesn't really apply since the same limitation is present when viewing a screen. you can still only focus sharply on a small range of vision. the problem is that we can sense movement out to 200 degrees and immediately focus on it, which is something that these games lack. it totally kills the immersion when you're trying to fight shit with tin cans on your eyes.
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cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
November 17 2011 04:21 GMT
#88
I never thought about this... but i agree for some games especially skyrim that you need to able to see more. I'm so going to go though the settings for this. Thanks
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Imalengrat
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia365 Posts
November 17 2011 04:26 GMT
#89
There is a huge difference when playing console to PC on the FOV present. As when we are at a PC we are usually no more then a metre away from the screen at all times and the size of the computer screen is much smaller to a TV, so having a larger field of view is much more preferred. When on a console you sit up to 3 metres away and therefore a smaller FOV is preferred. When on a PC I like mine to be upwards of 70 and console is standard 45ish
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karlmengsk
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada230 Posts
November 17 2011 04:30 GMT
#90
i thought i was the only one who noticed/cared about this..FPS games are so annoying to me for this reason, although i still have love for Elder Scrolls
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 04:31:47
November 17 2011 04:31 GMT
#91
It was actually super noticeable in Skyrim. It feels like I need to always look around and have no vision at all. The caves and tunnels are really confusing too. I played Human Revolution right before it and the difference is gigantic. This really feels like a pretty huge downfall for skyrim. When you play it, you should notice it immediately.

I'm actually playing Skyrim in 3rd person now, at least I can see what's happening...
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Happylime
Profile Joined August 2011
United States133 Posts
November 17 2011 04:32 GMT
#92
I can't see the edges of the screen as is, more vision would be terrible.
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MichaelJLowell
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States610 Posts
November 17 2011 04:40 GMT
#93
On November 17 2011 08:29 Eiii wrote:
The standard FOV on most console games these days is 60 for some reason I don't understand. I don't know why it got knocked down to 60 from the 90 standard that I know from quake, but hey.

The consoles have been grinding their graphical limits since roughly 2007 and 2008, when they decided that in order to preserve Microsoft's promise of high-definition gaming, they started creating lower-resolution games and upscaling them. I'd posit that the narrow field of vision is their way to limit the number of things that have to be rendered in order to play the game. (Not to mention the absolute frustration that a lot of players would feel in trying to swivel their inferior thumbsticks across a distance thirty percent larger and make a killing shot before their opponent does.)
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
November 17 2011 04:42 GMT
#94
Too much detail would make it hard to concentrate I guess?
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OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
November 17 2011 04:44 GMT
#95
What I notice a lot more in FPSs is that you're zoomed forward way farther than where your eyes would be. Not that that's a bad thing, just an observation.
meadbert
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States681 Posts
November 17 2011 04:50 GMT
#96
So the issue is you are using a monitor.

You cannot possibly display 200 degrees with a flat screen no matter how large.


If you want to display 160 then you either need to have your eyes super close to the screen or have a large screen.

TheBomb
Profile Joined October 2011
237 Posts
November 17 2011 04:55 GMT
#97
I would prefer bigger field, but on the other hand not 200. I think something around 90 would probably be best for games!
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sluggaslamoo
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Australia4494 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-17 05:04:08
November 17 2011 05:00 GMT
#98
On November 17 2011 08:29 Eiii wrote:
The standard FOV on most console games these days is 60 for some reason I don't understand. I don't know why it got knocked down to 60 from the 90 standard that I know from quake, but hey.


Its probably for performance reasons only. If they could increase the FOV they would.

Also I play at max FOV whenever I can on a 4:3 screen, the proportion changes are barely noticeable.
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Twistacles
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada1327 Posts
November 17 2011 05:03 GMT
#99
It's called eyeinfinity.

Add two monitors dedicated for peripheral vision. Done.
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LoneWolf.Alpha-
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
123 Posts
November 17 2011 05:04 GMT
#100
On November 17 2011 13:21 cmen15 wrote:
I never thought about this... but i agree for some games especially skyrim that you need to able to see more. I'm so going to go though the settings for this. Thanks


press ` and type "fov 100".

100 works best for me since i have this massive monitor. i'd imagine that if you have 3 monitors surrounding your face, then you can set it to 200.
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