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On November 06 2011 19:40 MrBitter wrote:
I fully support the sentence.
For people saying molesting children gets a lesser punishment:
It shouldn't. That's fucked up. People who commit crimes against children are the lowest of the low.
Whether the guy directly hurt a child or not is irrelevant, in my opinion. He is a sick, demented person (watching 6 year old boys have sex with adults? Are you fucking serious?) and there is no place in society for someone like that.
there is "no place in society" for a lot of people if we go by the standards of each individual or group within our (US) society. that is 1 reason we have laws and hope they are enforced with some integrity and proper judgment.
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I never understood this, so he found some child porn on the internet and downloaded it = life in prison? wtf?
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Kinda on topic, just a thought, don't laws against possesion of child pornography actually increase it's production? If only creation and commercialized sharing was illegal, all the stuff that's out there would be pirated and suddenly the producers would make much less money. What do you think, are there any flaws in my reasoning? Not that I would be content with videos of abused children freely floating around the internet, but it seems like something that would decrease child porn production, which is what the laws are there for.
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On November 06 2011 19:40 MrBitter wrote:
I fully support the sentence.
For people saying molesting children gets a lesser punishment:
It shouldn't. That's fucked up. People who commit crimes against children are the lowest of the low.
Whether the guy directly hurt a child or not is irrelevant, in my opinion. He is a sick, demented person (watching 6 year old boys have sex with adults? Are you fucking serious?) and there is no place in society for someone like that.
Why is there so much hate on child porn (not molestation)? I would consider furries fked up, but do they get life in prision?
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On November 06 2011 20:00 crystyxn wrote:
I never understood this, so he found some child porn on the internet and downloaded it = life in prison? wtf?
You make it sound like he tripped, fell on his keyboard and it accidentally brought up and downloaded child pornography.
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On November 06 2011 19:40 MrBitter wrote:
I fully support the sentence.
For people saying molesting children gets a lesser punishment:
It shouldn't. That's fucked up. People who commit crimes against children are the lowest of the low.
Whether the guy directly hurt a child or not is irrelevant, in my opinion. He is a sick, demented person (watching 6 year old boys have sex with adults? Are you fucking serious?) and there is no place in society for someone like that.
I have watched videos of murders on the internet, should I also receive a longer sentence than the person doing the murder? Maybe you could help me out on this one because I think that I shouldn't, but you seem quite sure that I should.
Not so long ago some Iranian men were executed for being gay. Do you think that is a just sentence? Taking someones life for hurting absolutely no one? The Iranians would claim that they were sick and demented, and that they have no place in society...
I have never been more glad that I don't live in a country where the punishment for Murder is less than the punishment for looking at some pictures on the internet.
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On November 06 2011 10:14 Jonoman92 wrote:
Um... wtf? There is a kid in my school who killed someone driving drunk, and after 3 years in prison he is back in school and his life relatively uninterrupted. The justice system sucks so bad.
Child porn is wrong, but giving the guy life in prison just sounds absolutely absurd. Reading the article now.
edit: The article is missing a lot of facts I'd like to know. I mean, it just says the guy has 100s of pornagraphic children images on his computer. But I'm sure there are viruses that could make that happen. Are you saying I can get on someone's computer, create a semi-hidden folder on it that they won't find (and will look that much more incriminating when found by authorities), and then call cops with an anonymous tip?
I actually know someone to whom this has happened, and it's a nightmare ><
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On November 06 2011 20:10 Probe1 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 20:00 crystyxn wrote:
I never understood this, so he found some child porn on the internet and downloaded it = life in prison? wtf? You make it sound like he tripped, fell on his keyboard and it accidentally brought up and downloaded child pornography.
If someone deliberately downloads videos of violent murders, should we imprison them for life as well? After all, anyone who likes watching murders is sick, twisted, and likely to murder other people themselves, right?
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Wow. Just wow. I am NOT condoning ANY form of child porn, but keep in mind that:
1) Pedophilia is a medical condition.
2) This is probably his only way of keeping it under control without anyone else getting hurt.
Mental institution? Sure. Prison sentence? Weeeeell, maybe. A fucking life sentence without the possibility of parole? Fucking ridiculous.
These people need help, and he at least had the willpower and decency not to actually, you know, rape and hurt kids.
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This seems a bit harsh...hope u guys actually read the article before commenting.
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It's a unacceptable sexual orientation and the society needs to do something. However it seems pretty expensive to put him away for life even though I assume it's related to how it's really hard to convert someone sexually.
I think a much shorter sentence followed by a period with chemical castration would be better. Then being forced to have spyware installed on his computer and possibly electronic tagging.
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On November 06 2011 20:25 Patriot.dlk wrote:
I think a much shorter sentence followed by a period with chemical castration would be better. Then being forced to have spyware installed on his computer and possibly electronic tagging.
Wow, has this guy actually hurt anyone? Since when could you be charged on thought-crime? Chemical castration based on downloaded files? I sure dont wanna live in your state. People have heaps of fucked up shit on their computers. Yes pedophilia is terrible but locking someone up for life for having some downloaded files on his computer is just retarded. It's not like he's killed/raped anyone or even supported the industry.
On November 06 2011 19:40 MrBitter wrote:
I fully support the sentence.
For people saying molesting children gets a lesser punishment:
It shouldn't. That's fucked up. People who commit crimes against children are the lowest of the low.
Seriously though, what 'crime' has he actually committed beyond possession of illegal computer files. If I have a video of someone getting murdered, or a collection of snuff films does that mean I should be charged to the same degree as a serial killer? I agree that actual molesters should be given the severest of punishments but you can't lump this guy in with them.
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Child pornography is wrong. But life sentence is waaaay too much in this case
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that's fucking ridiculous, just tending to the disproportionate disgust people have for people with paedophilic fetishes. i agree that sexual interest in children is sickening and repulsive, but comparing this sentence to other horrific acts makes it seem completely ridiculous, the fact that other sentences for terrible criminal acts receive much lighter sentences makes the judicial system lose all crebility.
i think a sentence in a mental institution, or some form of castration would be a better option.
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I have a question for you guys~ Let's say the system got him psychological help instead of prison... would they make him pay for that or use the tax payers money? If so which would cost the tax payers money more psych help or prison time?
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this cant be serious
it just cant be
no
no way
what the hell
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Now that's an overkill... absurd, as you said, he has a fetish and if he hasn't filmed it himself or harmed a child.
Well then... I guess I could end up being shot to death because at some point I liked Dolcett. I have never harmed a girl or anything, nor even have such impulses but for some reason I just liked it. Not anymore tho.
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On November 06 2011 19:40 MrBitter wrote:
I fully support the sentence.
For people saying molesting children gets a lesser punishment:
It shouldn't. That's fucked up. People who commit crimes against children are the lowest of the low.
Whether the guy directly hurt a child or not is irrelevant, in my opinion. He is a sick, demented person (watching 6 year old boys have sex with adults? Are you fucking serious?) and there is no place in society for someone like that.
Funny how you yourself note that he is sick person and yet you support this sentence ? You understand that him being a pedophile is something you are most likely born with. That does not excuse pedophiles hurting anyone and even it does not excuse him from possession. But it should be reflected in the sentence. He watched something and life sentence is not proportionate to the crime.
Just to put it into perspective are you supporting life sentences for people watching videos of people torturing other people ? Are you supporting the same sentences for drug users as for narcomafia members, because they support business that has probably much more suffering on its hands than child pornography business (also being a drug addict is more voluntary than being a pedophile) ?
He should be sentenced proportionate to the crime and he should go through psychiatric evaluation and based on that he should be placed in mental institution if he requires it or put in prison for reasonable time if he does not and after release he should be made to stay under observation of psychiatrists and police. If he is placed in mental institution it is quite possible he will stay there for life anyway, but that is different thing. Of course in America mental patients are often placed into prisons, because you gutted your system of mental institutions and thus even bigger hell is created.
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*deleting all child porn off of my computer*
Na joking(or am i), but this is just insane... Lifetime prison for downloading pictures? Really? Over here a man got 21 years for murdering 76 people. In USA, the law system is just as extreme but the other way around. U have some fetish pictures on your computer? Say hello to lifetime in prison.
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On November 06 2011 20:10 LAN-f34r wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2011 19:40 MrBitter wrote:
I fully support the sentence.
For people saying molesting children gets a lesser punishment:
It shouldn't. That's fucked up. People who commit crimes against children are the lowest of the low.
Whether the guy directly hurt a child or not is irrelevant, in my opinion. He is a sick, demented person (watching 6 year old boys have sex with adults? Are you fucking serious?) and there is no place in society for someone like that.
Why is there so much hate on child porn (not molestation)? I would consider furries fked up, but do they get life in prision?
Because making of that porn requires sex with a child, isn't it obvious ? That is the ethical reason for punishing it. Of course even if he watched anime child porn he would still be hated as sex with children is fucked up in principle.
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