EPTMan sentenced to life for possession of child porn - Page 23
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Cooloff
United States86 Posts
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
I feel that sometime in the distant future society will laugh at how barbaric our laws are concerning child pornography. Is having sex with children wrong? Derp a herp no shit. Should a man be imprisoned for life for looking at child pornography? Derp a herp no he shouldn't. | ||
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
On November 06 2011 18:35 youngminii wrote: :/ This seems more like one of those "let's send all the child porn guys a message" cases. Every time they do this I feel a little sad for the guy receiving the punishment, but I mean it technically is illegal and the guy did have a whole shit ton of it. He also helped distribute it a lot (p2p). I'm kind of on the fence with this one. They're punishing one guy so severely that people will have second thoughts before downloading child porn because of the risks involved. This is only a good thing, the decision will inevitably help the war on child porn, but at the cost of this one guy. As bad as I feel for the guy, he went in knowing the consequences. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time, yeah? The children come before the guys that watch/distribute the child porn. people dont get hands cut off because of stealing apples, crime needs to meet proper punishment, no more story to it really... | ||
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freewareplayer
Germany403 Posts
On November 06 2011 18:24 Plexa wrote: This is a good point. So the question becomes is this guy so deviant as to never be rehabilitated? The article doesn't shed any light on this, but I suspect that he would be able to be rehabilitated =/ As far as i know, through whatever therapy, a Pedophile will still always be sexually attracted to kids, well because he just likes kids that way. The majority of persons that commit violent crimes, probably have something like an anger management issue, and didnt commit the crime because they genuily like violence for the violence. If they do however, at least here in germany, they get locked down forever as well because they cannot be rehabilitated. In some countries, Pedophiles can choose to chemicly castrate themself, if they are willing to do that, and actually do it, i would consider them as close to rehabilitated as possible. With doing that he shows he doesnt want to be of any harm to kids, and realises his desires are baaaaaaaaaaad. Imo, altho it is not proportional, lock everyone of those child porn liking freaks away, unless they choose to go for chemical castration. Better to lock down 10 freaks, than to get 1 future innocent kid raped. | ||
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InsomniAA
Netherlands10 Posts
A close familymember of mine has worked with pedofiles trying to rehabilate into society for 10 years and from what I've heard from her it's basically impossible to get rid of the urges. Exactly the way there is no "cure" for gays. Chemical castration is done in certain countries, but only works to a certain degree, it lessens sexual fantasies and helps people have greater control over there sexual behaviour. However, it doesn't take them away - so there is still quite a chance the pedo goes back to his old behaviour. This is what makes the situation extremely hard in my opinion, can you punish someone for things he has barely any control over? Obviously we should to protect the children in society, but is it humane? The best thing would be to crack down all producers of child pornography (however, that is next to impossible). | ||
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JustPassingBy
10776 Posts
On November 06 2011 19:01 InsomniAA wrote: About rehabilitation: A close familymember of mine has worked with pedofiles trying to rehabilate into society for 10 years and from what I've heard from her it's basically impossible to get rid of the urges. Exactly the way there is no "cure" for gays. Chemical castration is done in certain countries and works to a certain degree, it lessens sexual fantasies and helps people have greater control over there sexual behaviour. However, it doesn't take them away - so there is still quite a chance the pedo goes back to his old behaviour. This is what makes the situation extremely hard in my opinion, can you punish someone for things he has barely any control over? Obviously we should to protect the children in society, but is it humane? The best thing would be to crack down all producers of child pornography (however, that is next to impossible). Of course that is only if consuming child pornography has a proportional correlation to sexual child abuse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_child_pornography_and_child_sexual_abuse | ||
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Simple
United States801 Posts
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InsomniAA
Netherlands10 Posts
On November 06 2011 19:04 JustPassingBy wrote: Of course that is only if consuming child pornography has a proportional correlation to sexual child abuse: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relationship_between_child_pornography_and_child_sexual_abuse Yes, obviously. Only wanted to post because people seem to think chemical castration is some kind of magic which it isn't. | ||
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Kazius
Israel1456 Posts
On November 06 2011 18:01 mud123 wrote: I totally support this sentence. If it was possible I'd sentence him to death. No need to have freaks running around with their mutant genes reproducing more human waste like themselves. Not to mention that just because he hasn't yet hurt a child directly (which might not be the case) is no indication that he won't ever. In fact I'd say that if he is collecting images of child abuse that he is likely at some point to abuse a child himself. Anyone who disagrees with me can really f*ck off I don't care. Obviously the judge agrees with me and that's all that matters. I hope he likes being abused in prison for the rest of his pathetic life. I think you should be locked up. If it was possible, I'd sentence you to death. No need to have freaks running around with their mutant genes reproducing more human waste like themselves. Not to mention that just because you haven't yet hurt a forum goer directly (which might not be the case) is no indication that you won't ever. In fact I'd say that if you are violently phrasing your forum posts that you are likely at some point to become an axe murderer yourself. Anyone who disagrees with me can really f*ck off I don't care. Obviously the judge won't yet agree with me and that's all that matters. I hope you like being beaten into a pulp in prison for the rest of your life. | ||
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checkSIX
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
For people saying molesting children gets a lesser punishment: It shouldn't. That's fucked up. People who commit crimes against children are the lowest of the low. Whether the guy directly hurt a child or not is irrelevant, in my opinion. He is a sick, demented person (watching 6 year old boys have sex with adults? Are you fucking serious?) and there is no place in society for someone like that. | ||
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Arnstein
Norway3381 Posts
On November 06 2011 18:56 Cooloff wrote: Try not paying your taxes! A murderer gets out in 8 years while someone who skims the government of their taxes can go to jail for life. While the CEO of a corporation who cheats the government didnt actually hurt anyone, he stills goes to jail longer in certain cases. It seems this is the MOST sensitive area of our legal justice system, and this guy looked at it in the face and gave it the finger. Over 400 photos recovered. Not 1 that could be accidently downloaded, not 2 that could have been an experimentation. This guy got caught red handed for something the justice system and society look at as the foulest act. Sounds to me like this guy woulda gotten out in 10 with good behavior and been able to finish his life. Now he has none because he didnt show the judge that he made a mistake. In other countrys they put you to death for stealing so our justice system needs to have some balls too. Cheating on the taxes is pretty serious though. If all the rich people in the US haven't cheated with paying their taxes, America would be nowhere near the debt they are in now. And it affects the poorest of the American people, people that rely on government-funded things like schools etc. | ||
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Gigaudas
Sweden1213 Posts
On November 06 2011 19:40 MrBitter wrote: I fully support the sentence. For people saying molesting children gets a lesser punishment: It shouldn't. That's fucked up. People who commit crimes against children are the lowest of the low. Whether the guy directly hurt a child or not is irrelevant, in my opinion. He is a sick, demented person (watching 6 year old boys have sex with adults? Are you fucking serious?) and there is no place in society for someone like that. Do you have the same view of other crimes? Extremely harsh punishment in an attempt to clean society of such behavior? Children are defenseless, yes. So are many other victims of crime. If a group of five beat a person bloody, should they be sentenced to life in prison? | ||
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MrBitter
United States2940 Posts
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Drake
Germany6146 Posts
cant really judge here the correct lenght cause its to hard to decide | ||
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duckmaster
687 Posts
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gold_
Canada312 Posts
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
“A life sentence is what we give first-degree murderers,” he said, “and possession of child pornography is not the equivalent of first-degree murder.”“A life sentence is what we give first-degree murderers,” he said, “and possession of child pornography is not the equivalent of first-degree murder.” Either there is a lot more that was unpublished or this seems like it will be overturned by a less incredible appeals court. On November 06 2011 19:50 duckmaster wrote: I think that punishment is just retarded and ridiculously unjustified. The judge who gave him life is actually more fucked up than this guy. Ok you make me want to just silently disagree with the punishment -_- | ||
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RiceMuncher
Australia138 Posts
I'll butcher people. The judge obviously is biased in his handling of "justice" | ||
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BrTarolg
United Kingdom3574 Posts
These people should ofc, be sent to jail for life for the same reason that you send people who own child pornography to life - because they might watch the real thing later! A guy watching fictional material might watch the real thing later, a crime punishable by life! .... people should know that pedophilia is not curable in the same way being gay is not curable So what should a law-abiding pedophile do? Of course, many of you don't really care since you don't even believe they are human beings As a civilized society it is our duty to be civilized to others, even to criminals It seems in certain countries, we have totally and utterly failed in that quest. | ||
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