EPTI think I'll blame that barbarism on the human beings in the country committing it.
Unwatchable [Short Film] - Page 4
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XeliN
United Kingdom1755 Posts
I think I'll blame that barbarism on the human beings in the country committing it. | ||
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Fnatic NoVa
Germany16 Posts
Can't really say how much of an impact the minerals even have without further research and if this petition is going to have any effect at all; signed it anyway. Even if the petition is only a potential tiny step or if the video makes some people more aware and less dull it's worth it imo. Now I'll try to enjoy the Blizzcon Finals somehow. | ||
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Flamingo777
United States1190 Posts
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Soulish
Canada1403 Posts
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Candadar
2049 Posts
I'm not picking either side, just making that clear. | ||
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Latham
9593 Posts
On October 23 2011 07:30 firehand101 wrote: I started the video, but turned it off... i just couldnt bring myself to watch it  but i signed the petition I finished it but it left me sad. Not the normal sad, but the kind of "empty, disheartened, demoralized, unhappy" kind of sad. They're also right. I would have cared less if it wasn't a modern country, white people, and troops that are supposed to be defending me =( I was asking myself "why the hell is this even happening? Troops land in helicopter, rape kill white people in a civilized country?" Then I understood that that was meant to show the message of what's happening in Congo... :| | ||
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Sina92
Sweden1303 Posts
On October 23 2011 01:20 Probe1 wrote: Is 230 times a day not enough for you ZessiM? you trust everyones calculations? | ||
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StarBrift
Sweden1761 Posts
You, you'r mother, your father, your siblings and all your friends are indirectly funding mass rape and genocide. That is the message of the video and I can't believe that so many people either missed it or actually fool themselves into believing its not true. For those saying that this doesn't make a difference: You are fucking ridiculous. Sorry, but your opinion is wrong and unaccerptable. When we as a society is enabling this by our indifference and we outselves are customers. It is completely ridiculous to say that we don't have any power over where the mobile phone companies conduct their buisness. This is the prime example of a marketing nightmare for those companies. If word gets out that they are in the forefront of sustaining these militias they are done. To email your phone company and tell them this aswell as spread this message DOES change things. A few months ago there was a law going to be passed in Uganda that would give death sentences for gay people. The internet blew up and the bill was put on hold. If western netizen can affect a nations policy directly like that (through their own government ofc) then affecting companies within their own society is nothing. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
I feel really terrible too because I just bought a new iphone = (. | ||
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
The problem is that it is next to impossible to determine what is conflict tantalum and what is not in your supply chain. I remember reading an article a few years ago about how a lot of companies were importing tantalum into Australia from the Congo, then re-exporting it as Australian mined tantalum to get around the assorted embargos. Additionally Tantalum is used in a heck of a lot more then mobile phones. Pretty-much every power supply in anything will have Tantalum capacitors, and Tantalum Nitride resistors.. | ||
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Candadar
2049 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:47 InvalidID wrote: I don't know where this rumor that the tantalum in phones is mostly from the congo got started from, some does indeed source from the Congo but the majority is not sourced from the Congo (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b4/Global-mined-tantalum-production-1990-2009.png). I know the electronics manufacturing plant I am at uses 100% certified conflict free minerals(and we use a ton of tantalum), and I believe most other US based manufacturers are on the same page(its pretty-much required for anything that will source to the government in end). The problem is that it is next to impossible to determine what is conflict tantalum and what is not in your supply chain. I remember reading an article a few years ago about how a lot of companies were importing tantalum into Australia from the Congo, then re-exporting it as Australian mined tantalum to get around the assorted embargos. It may be like this for America, but this video was directed towards England -- so perhaps you shoot look at the situation over there as well? | ||
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
On October 23 2011 10:52 Candadar wrote: It may be like this for America, but this video was directed towards England -- so perhaps you shoot look at the situation over there as well? Can't find any information about the laws in the UK. I guess in the US some new stricter laws about it were put in place a few months ago-you now have to publicly disclose any conflict mineral usage. The problem is that it is impossible to trace the supply chain of tantalum back far enough to have any idea if it actually is conflict originated or not(outside of your suppliers word). You either buy the tantalum nitride from a distributor(who says its conflict free, and it probably is to the best of their knowledge), or you buy components from a Chinese manufacturer(who says it is, but who knows). Even if the distributor of tantalum does honestly believe that it is conflict free-they are relying on the word of the mining company, that is most likely based in Africa. The tantalum basically gets re-exported to other countries like Uganda or Rwanda, and mixed in with the tantalum mined in those countries. | ||
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TheAmazombie
United States3714 Posts
To me, the only answer would be to boycott companies that support these actions if ending it is really what you want. Education and money are the answers, regulation I do not think will help too much. I still signed though. Conflict minerals have been something that I have been concerned with for awhile. I had a teacher in college that tried to go down to local jewelers, wanting to support local business, and get a certified non-conflict diamond for his future wife's engagement ring. Due to contracts of their company, they could not certify this. He then suggested that if he brought in a certified diamond that he purchased elsewhere, could they set it for them and make the ring, they still told him no due to their company contracts. That disturbed me then as it does now. I just never ceases to amaze me the depths of horror that we as people are capable of. It also disturbs me the strong ability that we have to turn away from such unpleasant things...I am not saying I am not guilty of it as well...it is just weird... | ||
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wishbones
Canada2600 Posts
youtube for anyone such as myself who has a shit comp and cant run that websites video player. | ||
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R4TM
Brazil140 Posts
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
it involves not recognizing that the very act of being shocked/perturbed is in itself a potential opportunity of action. denying that potential is carrying out a self fulfilling prophesy. too lazy to explain more. | ||
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FallDownMarigold
United States3710 Posts
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
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TadH
Canada1846 Posts
Don't get me wrong the movie was fucked and made me feel bad, but I'm not going to feel bad for buying a fucking smart phone. It's liek saying I am responsible for raping a girl for owning an iphone. Give me a break. | ||
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SpoR
United States1542 Posts
The movie was really unrealistic and silly to me. | ||
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