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Chinese Toddler Run Over, No One Helps! - Page 37
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NeonFox
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RavenLoud
Canada1100 Posts
 Hopefully there won't be anything permanent.(Lol @ tl ad showing a chinese dating site...) | ||
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Probe1
United States17920 Posts
If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face - forever. | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On October 19 2011 00:29 RavenLoud wrote: Wo I thought she was dead? Very glad that she's recovering Hopefully there won't be anything permanent.you obviously didn't watch the video. Fairly certain she will at least lose both legs. at the very minimum. Being rolled on by 2 trucks, i doubt the legs can 'survive'. | ||
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RavenLoud
Canada1100 Posts
On October 19 2011 00:51 Nizaris wrote: you obviously didn't watch the video. Fairly certain she will at least lose both legs. at the very minimum. Being rolled on by 2 trucks, i doubt the legs can 'survive'. I meant mental, but you're right I didn't watch pass the first 10 seconds.  | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On October 19 2011 00:52 RavenLoud wrote: I meant mental, but you're right I didn't watch pass the first 10 seconds. i can't say i lasted much longer. | ||
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aTnClouD
Italy2428 Posts
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 19 2011 00:57 aTnClouD wrote: Did they really drive over her just to make sure they could say they didn't see anything? Here I don't see humans having a wicked morality rather a very bad jurisdiction system bending the good morals of (chinese) people in a wrong direction. I think very few people in the world would help knowing they would find themselves guilty, no matter from where they come. They drove over her to make sure she dies so they just pay a fatality fine of last time I checked it was 30,000 RMB? Rather than what medical bill the family could potentially extort from the drivers. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
All of those people would have committed crime in another country, the crime of not helping someone in mortal danger. In this case the law is different and considering what you risk for your family, I actually totally understand the decisions the onlookers made. And I'm also certain that they felt shit about what happened; not being able to help. Many of you seem to say that whether or not your family will end up on the streets, you'd have helped the girl. In other words, you'd be willing to risk your entire family's survival for a stranger you've never met. As honourable as it is to save someone, if it means having to put your entire family on the street because of it, it's not a good idea. It's a bad one even. Better steel yourself and let someone die then go ahead and kill your own family. The government, for condoning such atrocities, is the one I hold responsible for the entire incident. The driver as well of course. But that's a different story imo. Edit: Unrelated+ Show Spoiler + On an unrelated note, I didn't feel anything when I watched the video. My room mate saw that and was immediately disgusted, as are many people in this thread. I'm not sure how I should feel about this. lol I'm a nice guy.  | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On October 19 2011 01:00 Blasterion wrote: They drove over her to make sure she dies so they just pay a fatality fine of last time I checked it was 30,000 RMB? Rather than what medical bill the family could potentially extort from the drivers. how does insurance work in china? :l seems like a really odd system -_- does anyone have any info on the story beyond the video? | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 19 2011 01:29 turdburgler wrote: how does insurance work in china? :l seems like a really odd system -_- does anyone have any info on the story beyond the video? Insurance are kinda luxuries for people like you and me that can pay for it, there is no like government type insurance, just private insurance stuff. | ||
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Snuggles
United States1865 Posts
Children getting run over by cars happens more often than you'd like to think. It just doesn't make it on video. I remember watching a video where the kid's own father completely stream rolled over the poor child. Unintentionally of course, but god people are absolutely retarded. In that case I think the kid was probably done for since he got rolled from his feet up, vertically. This was his own father keep that in mind. Also I think it was in America too, there are many cause in countries like Thailand too. | ||
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Nizaris
Belgium2230 Posts
On October 19 2011 01:30 Blasterion wrote: Insurance are kinda luxuries for people like you and me that can pay for it, there is no like government type insurance, just private insurance stuff. wait insurance isn't mandatory ? That's quite crazy considering you could potentially do millions of dollars of damage. I have never heard of a government car insurance. Every1 has to go private (and pay out the ass). | ||
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turdburgler
England6749 Posts
On October 19 2011 01:30 Blasterion wrote: Insurance are kinda luxuries for people like you and me that can pay for it, there is no like government type insurance, just private insurance stuff. if you can afford the car surely you can afford to insure it ;( | ||
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La1
United Kingdom659 Posts
made me feel quiet sick a few months ago i was approaching a round about with a biker in the lane to the left of me , as he went over the roundabout in the wet his bike slipped and he came off, i slowed in the middle of the round about and stoped my car to see if he was ok, the car behind the bike also stoped.. followed by the 2 cars behind that , we all got out to see if he was ok.. He was fine but it was nice to see everybody care and offer help, they also lifted the bike off him.. we all went on our way.. its a shitty world but there are still good people in it. we are lucky we have the NHS.. it just goes to show how laws can make a country seem lawless.. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 19 2011 01:47 Nizaris wrote: wait insurance isn't mandatory ? That's quite crazy considering you could potentially do millions of dollars of damage. I have never heard of a government car insurance. Every1 has to go private (and pay out the ass). I am pretty sure it's not mandatory, it's highly recommended though, all the middle class and above have insurance | ||
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BarbieHsu
574 Posts
On October 19 2011 01:00 Blasterion wrote: They drove over her to make sure she dies so they just pay a fatality fine of last time I checked it was 30,000 RMB? Rather than what medical bill the family could potentially extort from the drivers. An absolutely shocking truth. I mean, you can't put a real price on life. But in a court, the judge has to. But the hospital puts a larger one. Ending a life is cheaper than saving it. In fact, it is rumored that bus drivers in some countries are instructed, if they hit someone, to make sure he's dead. In that way, the company pays less to the family of the deceased. It is so messed up. | ||
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MERLIN.
Canada546 Posts
On October 19 2011 02:44 BarbieHsu wrote: An absolutely shocking truth. I mean, you can't put a real price on life. But in a court, the judge has to. But the hospital puts a larger one. Ending a life is cheaper than saving it. In fact, it is rumored that bus drivers in some countries are instructed, if they hit someone, to make sure he's dead. In that way, the company pays less to the family of the deceased. It is so messed up. Thats life when the worlds run by a monetary economy based off money, imagine... imagine if we split up all the resources on earth equally, so that everyone could live happily and things like that wouldnt happen... To good to imagine. + Show Spoiler + Did anyone else not feel anything after watching the video? I didnt even get a sick stomach or anything, I guess I'm pretty unsensitive though. | ||
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MozzarellaL
United States822 Posts
There is no law requiring you to do anything to help someone in danger, (although some states have passed laws requiring you to alert the authorities if you happen across someone in danger), unless you are the source of the danger (e.g., you see someone drowning in a public pool, and you are the only person there besides the unfortunate swimmer. You have no obligation to do anything to help him; but if it were your own pool located on your property then it is your responsibility). If you decide to help someone in danger (help is construed rather broadly), you immediately take all responsibility for him. Anything that harms or worsens the condition of the victim as a result of your 'help', you are liable for in a court of law. Good Samaritan laws are quite varied in scope and would never have even been passed were it not for public outrage (like what may be happening here in China), ranging from full immunity for anyone providing assistance to immunity only to medical professionals volunteering their expertise, to the more common legal test of determining of whether a rescuer's actions were 'necessary to prevent imminent death or serious injury' as a condition to granting immunity, or if they were reckless (and I would posit that helping a person off a road who has just been run over is reckless--if they cannot move by themselves, your touching them could cause further injury because you don't know what the fuck you're doing--far more sensible actions include calling an ambulance or blocking the road so a 3rd car won't come along). Finally, just like the 'fatality fine' Blasterion pointed out, some states have tort laws which state that recovery of injury damages does not survive death (this was the default rule until some activist judges changed things),--once you die your family has no claim for recovery whatsoever. Not entirely analogous but then again, a person helping a victim is never going to be charged with homicide. OP's cultural arrogance is quite staggering and ignorant. Calling another country's citizens 'barbaric' for not rendering help to a child, when just two years ago an entire school just stood around and watched a middle school girl be gang-raped in this country, is both inappropriate and grossly morbid in an ironic sense. | ||
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Tuthur
France985 Posts
On October 19 2011 02:48 MERLIN. wrote: + Show Spoiler + Did anyone else not feel anything after watching the video? I didnt even get a sick stomach or anything, I guess I'm pretty unsensitive though. I didn't feel sick or anything either but part of my faith in humanity was definitely shattered as I saw people walking by, if you're not disgusted by the way they ignore her you're probably a psychopath :p | ||
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