EPTChinese Toddler Run Over, No One Helps! - Page 36
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BrainAKAdamage
England54 Posts
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iLikeRain
Denmark504 Posts
On October 18 2011 22:57 secretary bird wrote: You guys are fucked up for even watching something like that tbh. Why do you want to see it, you knew what happened already. Not trying to preach here but I dont understand how that could possibly benefit you. What would not seeing benefit? If you see the video, you have a much clearer picture of what actually happened. Sure you can read reports, but you don't see the way that the bypassers look at the girl, remind themselves that they can suffer financially from helping her, and then carrying on. Stop crying because you don't have the "stomach" to handle something like this. It's horrible and tragic, but insulting people because they feel that watching it helps them understand, is moronic at best. | ||
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MERLIN.
Canada546 Posts
There is a lot of china bashing in this thread... Odd, I thought the mods had a strick "no country bashing", or perhaps thats selective... Please stop bashing china, I'm sure we're all experts on Chinas culture, and the barbarism there, but a few questions need to be asked before you take in the "onlookers" are evil. Where were the parents? Why did no one help? (2006 is a big reason imo...) On October 18 2011 11:34 Blasterion wrote: It's funny how you foreigners do the same to us all the time, but we aren't allowed to say the same to you. | ||
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
On October 18 2011 22:57 secretary bird wrote: You guys are fucked up for even watching something like that tbh. Why do you want to see it, you knew what happened already. Not trying to preach here but I dont understand how that could possibly benefit you. People watch the video to have a fuller context of the discussion about the social-political issues involved here. Others watch out of morbid curiosity. Whatever their reason, no need to berate them over it. | ||
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Neurosis
United States893 Posts
On October 18 2011 23:38 iLikeRain wrote: What would not seeing benefit? If you see the video, you have a much clearer picture of what actually happened. Sure you can read reports, but you don't see the way that the bypassers look at the girl, remind themselves that they can suffer financially from helping her, and then carrying on. Stop crying because you don't have the "stomach" to handle something like this. It's horrible and tragic, but insulting people because they feel that watching it helps them understand, is moronic at best. Why the hell would you want a "much clearer picture of what actually happened". I'm not insulting people that watched the video but I know for sure I wouldn't want that image burned into my brain. The world just keeps getting shittier as time goes on. | ||
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
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iLikeRain
Denmark504 Posts
On October 18 2011 23:44 Neurosis wrote: Why the hell would you want a "much clearer picture of what actually happened". I'm not insulting people that watched the video but I know for sure I wouldn't want that image burned into my brain. The world just keeps getting shittier as time goes on. You're not insulting people? Let's quote yourself: You guys are fucked up for even watching something like that tbh. No you're right. That's not insulting AT ALL! | ||
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s4life
Peru1519 Posts
On October 18 2011 23:44 Neurosis wrote: Why the hell would you want a "much clearer picture of what actually happened". I'm not insulting people that watched the video but I know for sure I wouldn't want that image burned into my brain. The world just keeps getting shittier as time goes on. The devil is in the details... literally.. and yeah, you are pretty much insulting people.. it's pretty much being human when trying to understand something that sounds and looks outright incomprehensible. | ||
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NihiLuvHeH
9 Posts
On October 18 2011 20:36 BioNova wrote: I'm ashamed that a single judgement can cause this much cultural-moral crisis. The instict to help, to save falls into fight/flight response. I'll do my best to put this behind me like the good samaritans in the wiki-L chopper video.. just mind numbing It's not a single judgement caused this, actually we have witnessed several fxxxking judgements. Our kindness is under no protection, in other words, our kindness actions are guilty in some degress. It's absurd.... | ||
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Zharak
Sweden106 Posts
 Poor kid | ||
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Enervate
United States1769 Posts
On October 18 2011 22:39 SupLilSon wrote: That is not the bystander effect. The bystander effect would be people watching as the girl is run over, mostly due to shock and inexperience in a situation of that kind. In the video, you see people who witnessed the girl being run over, walk right by her as if she was a piece of trash or roadkill. What is in the video is something much more unexplainable and disgusting than the bystander effect. No, this IS the bystander effect. Psychological phenomena aren't proven laws, but they do help explain human behavior. Bystanders often assume someone else is going to help. The more bystanders there are, the less likely someone is to help. The bystander effect has nothing to do with shock or inexperience. Of course, the desire to help may have even been further decreased due to fear of punishment, but that's uncertain and impossible to say. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bystander_effect Edit: As a side note, watching the video and understanding it are wholly unrelated. You are likely lying to yourself if you think you are watching it for altruistic reasons. | ||
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furymonkey
New Zealand1587 Posts
On October 18 2011 23:44 Neurosis wrote: Why the hell would you want a "much clearer picture of what actually happened". I'm not insulting people that watched the video but I know for sure I wouldn't want that image burned into my brain. The world just keeps getting shittier as time goes on. It's not like we are watching it out of enjoyment. Fuck dude, I had tears in my eye after watching it, it is very horrible sight, especially how she was still breathing and moving it's hand trying to get attentions. I glad it burns into my brain, because I know such a strong image will only reinforce my beliefs that, when people needed help, I should always offer my hand anyway I can. | ||
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NihiLuvHeH
9 Posts
On October 18 2011 20:36 BioNova wrote: I'm ashamed that a single judgement can cause this much cultural-moral crisis. The instict to help, to save falls into fight/flight response. I'll do my best to put this behind me like the good samaritans in the wiki-L chopper video.. just mind numbing It's not a single judgement caused this, actually we have witnessed several fxxxking judgements. Our kindness is under no protection, in other words, our kindness actions are guilty in some degress. It's absurd.... | ||
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yandere991
Australia394 Posts
Also financial ruin for the average Chinese worker is not just a sharp drop in standard of living. With no social welfare net losing your assets basically means going homeless and dying of either starvation or disease (no there is no up front free medical care in China even if your dying). It breaks my heart that these trash encouraged by that joke of a judge has hardened the hearts of society so much that they ignore real tragedies and turns empathy into apathy. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
On October 18 2011 23:44 Neurosis wrote: Why the hell would you want a "much clearer picture of what actually happened". I'm not insulting people that watched the video but I know for sure I wouldn't want that image burned into my brain. The world just keeps getting shittier as time goes on. The video is real and it's brutal. Ignoring it doesn't make it go away. Acknowledging it creates awareness and discourse. I hope you never find yourself in a similar situation but if you do, will you have the courage to do what you think is right when confronted with such visceral imagery? The world isn't getting shittier. The world has always been shitty. People today have it easy compared to previous generations. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
And someone linked me a video later about how construction workers and passerbys a few weeks ago helped lift a car off of a motorcyclist trapped below a burning car and pulled him to safety... Don't get me wrong. America and the western world is not perfect. But people should never have to think twice about saving someones life. Especially a child... I understand the laws in china are fucked up and that's why this happened. But videos like this is how changes and movements can be made. I read a small but poignant quote the other day. "Never doubt the amount of change a small group of dedicated and devoted citizens can do. Indeed, that has all change has ever come from" or something along those lines. I'm glad the girl is alive, but I hope people can make a change somehow after seeing this horrific incident. | ||
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CCitrus
Canada164 Posts
Especially, especially when it's a child, it's absolutely disgusting. | ||
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Lumin
United States217 Posts
On October 19 2011 00:14 CCitrus wrote: I've had people pass me by after bad bike accidents and a car roll-over in -20 C on the highway. It seems that bystanders' natural reaction to an event like this is uncertainty, denial, and avoidance. Especially, especially when it's a child, it's absolutely disgusting. Your situation is hardly comparable. Being on a highway, and being on a local street with shops and people walking around is completely different. | ||
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