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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
Chemist391
Profile Joined October 2010
United States368 Posts
January 08 2013 19:46 GMT
#1501
I spend 80 hours a week in a chemistry department at a university, so I only ever really see other graduate students and my undergraduate students (ethically off-limits). I don't want to date inside my department, so I'm at somewhat of a loss lately.

I tend to spend my only time outside of the department cycling, running, and playing SC2 to stay sane.
Nightshade_
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States549 Posts
January 08 2013 19:53 GMT
#1502
I'm dating the love of my life. Zerg players mad, terrans jelly, protoss proud.
Lil' Joey, Master of the A-Move Stalker Strike Force
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 20:00:50
January 08 2013 19:58 GMT
#1503
On January 09 2013 04:46 Chemist391 wrote:
I spend 80 hours a week in a chemistry department at a university, so I only ever really see other graduate students and my undergraduate students (ethically off-limits). I don't want to date inside my department, so I'm at somewhat of a loss lately.

I tend to spend my only time outside of the department cycling, running, and playing SC2 to stay sane.


Try online services (serious ones that usually cost 10$ a month) if you don't have much time. That's the best option out there for really busy people.

Send a few message here and there, make an attractive profile (no self-shot photos please), state that you are really busy these days. Once you hook somebody you like don't lose time on MSN/Facebook and get a casual date instead. You'll lose less time that way.
Then play it as a normal date/start-of-a-relationship. Of course you'll have to free yourself to actually be with the girl once or twice a week (if the week is overbooked just do it the week-end). If she lives nearby get short dates for your lunch break; things like that. Dates can be taken at anytime anywhere, never restraint yourself to bars/restaurants and evenings.
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
shawty
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom294 Posts
January 08 2013 19:59 GMT
#1504
Dated two girls last year, one january to march and the other october till december. Both gorgeous to the point that when I was in the university library I would hear people talking about the girl I was seeing and looking at me. However I managed to get both by being really flirty and jokey and confident, but when I actually got to know them and act just as myself rather than how I do when I am trying to attract girls, they both broke up with me.

Kinda a kick in the teeth. Thinking that I need to go for girls who don't seem to think so highly of themselves, as it is doing my head in
XDJuicebox
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States593 Posts
January 08 2013 19:59 GMT
#1505
I chased a girl for a year and two months. The first year didn't go well, at all.

Never give up, never surrender.

I'm now a happy guy ^^
And then you know what happened all of a sudden?
CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
January 08 2013 20:00 GMT
#1506
On January 08 2013 17:00 Drowsy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 16:47 DamageControL wrote:
On January 08 2013 16:41 Drowsy wrote:
Saw some age gap posts earlier so I guess I'll finally drop a dumb "girlbog" post:

There's a girl in my graduate program. We have some mutual attraction and hit it off pretty well(so yeah, that part is out of the way), known her about 10 weeks or so. There's a few big things making me hesitate though: She's 32 years old and has lived with her parents her whole life (she's the eldest of 4 and every single one of her siblings moved out at the normal time). She had a strict Korean upbringing. She also is just a part time student and works full time, her mom is her boss funnily enough. She's relatively western in most other ways, raised in a western country, English is her first language etc. She looks insanely young for her age, prob a result of asian genetics+leading a very sheltered and clean life. I thought she was my age for the first few times we talked.

I'm going to be 24 in a few days. I've got lots of other options to pick from, but she's the one I like the most. I'm just not sure its worth the logistical hassle and the age difference. Additionally, I'm sure being 32 and having never lived independently will have some sort of behavioral manifestations even though nothing is apparent just yet. There's a good chance her parents wouldn't be particularly fond of me either (I'm back/hispanic and just playing the odds, a lot of the older Korean folks can be a bit racist, and of course there's the age difference again).

So what would you do in my situation? Just avoid the mess and go for girls my age?

she sounds kind of crazy. I dunno, it feels like there is a reason she lives with her parents. What are the reasons she gives?

I tried to get to the bottom of that once but she's clearly self-conscious about it so I tried not to prod too much. Her mom is a director of operations and she's an "assistant director" at the same company, and she cited convenience as a reason as well as the fact that eastern cultures tend to be more family oriented. But she's only had that job for 2 years so that's still 18-30. Neither of her parents have health problems. Her parents also "grounded" her from her car after she got in an accident in a parking lot at one point (it took every fiber of my being not to make a joke about asian female drivers when she told me about it). I'm also about 99% sure she's a virgin, which I don't consider a plus or a minus but it says something.


Okay that all sounds bad now that I write it out, but she's a stone cold 8.5/10 and is very sweet, smart, and feminine.


Go for it man, I think a relationship is exactly what she needs.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-08 20:01:41
January 08 2013 20:01 GMT
#1507
On January 09 2013 04:59 XDJuicebox wrote:
I chased a girl for a year and two months. The first year didn't go well, at all.

Never give up, never surrender.

I'm now a happy guy ^^

Stings like a bitch if she moves on to someone else while you're sloppily trying
Glad it worked out for you tho.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
January 08 2013 20:02 GMT
#1508
On January 09 2013 05:00 CatNzHat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 08 2013 17:00 Drowsy wrote:
On January 08 2013 16:47 DamageControL wrote:
On January 08 2013 16:41 Drowsy wrote:
Saw some age gap posts earlier so I guess I'll finally drop a dumb "girlbog" post:

There's a girl in my graduate program. We have some mutual attraction and hit it off pretty well(so yeah, that part is out of the way), known her about 10 weeks or so. There's a few big things making me hesitate though: She's 32 years old and has lived with her parents her whole life (she's the eldest of 4 and every single one of her siblings moved out at the normal time). She had a strict Korean upbringing. She also is just a part time student and works full time, her mom is her boss funnily enough. She's relatively western in most other ways, raised in a western country, English is her first language etc. She looks insanely young for her age, prob a result of asian genetics+leading a very sheltered and clean life. I thought she was my age for the first few times we talked.

I'm going to be 24 in a few days. I've got lots of other options to pick from, but she's the one I like the most. I'm just not sure its worth the logistical hassle and the age difference. Additionally, I'm sure being 32 and having never lived independently will have some sort of behavioral manifestations even though nothing is apparent just yet. There's a good chance her parents wouldn't be particularly fond of me either (I'm back/hispanic and just playing the odds, a lot of the older Korean folks can be a bit racist, and of course there's the age difference again).

So what would you do in my situation? Just avoid the mess and go for girls my age?

she sounds kind of crazy. I dunno, it feels like there is a reason she lives with her parents. What are the reasons she gives?

I tried to get to the bottom of that once but she's clearly self-conscious about it so I tried not to prod too much. Her mom is a director of operations and she's an "assistant director" at the same company, and she cited convenience as a reason as well as the fact that eastern cultures tend to be more family oriented. But she's only had that job for 2 years so that's still 18-30. Neither of her parents have health problems. Her parents also "grounded" her from her car after she got in an accident in a parking lot at one point (it took every fiber of my being not to make a joke about asian female drivers when she told me about it). I'm also about 99% sure she's a virgin, which I don't consider a plus or a minus but it says something.


Okay that all sounds bad now that I write it out, but she's a stone cold 8.5/10 and is very sweet, smart, and feminine.


Go for it man, I think a relationship is exactly what she needs.

And who's gonna give it to her? Drowsy is, that's who!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Xenocryst
Profile Joined December 2010
United States521 Posts
January 08 2013 20:11 GMT
#1509
This thread is depressing me, muster up some courage people! I want to see you all in happy committed relationships
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
January 08 2013 20:12 GMT
#1510
Finally decided to post here.

I'll be 24 in a month, single and always have been. Still a virgin, haven't even ever kissed a girl. The few girls I made a move on turned me down (though I realise now I went about things about as bad as I could have with them). I get really lonely sometimes and I have some confidence issues (though not as much as I used to in high school) so asking a girl out is hard. As it stands right now I don't even really *want* to ask anyone out. I just wouldn't know how to handle things. It's not even the fear of rejection as much as it is the fear she actually says yes.

When I'm with a group of friends I'm really witty and (if you can say this of yourself) funny with interesting things to say, but that just shuts down whenever it's one-on-one contact. Not even just with strangers,but even with the friends (bar that select few I'm just really comfortable with and close to). I just wouldn't know how to fill a few hours with someone I barely know. Especially with a girl I might be interested in.

Add to that I just started studying abroad and am having some issues motivating myself to study (have always had those, but I'm now getting to the point where I really can't afford to anymore) and a weight problem I've had all my life (lost 25 kg last year, but I'm starting to gain some of that weight back since I started living on my own).

All in all I just feel like now is not the time to focus on getting into a relationship (or any female contact really), but I also feel that the longer I wait actually getting out there the more I'll stand out as "that 23/24/25 year old guy who's never been with a girl before". In short, I just don't really know at this point.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
January 08 2013 20:31 GMT
#1511
On January 09 2013 05:12 Mikau wrote:
Finally decided to post here.

I'll be 24 in a month, single and always have been. Still a virgin, haven't even ever kissed a girl. The few girls I made a move on turned me down (though I realise now I went about things about as bad as I could have with them). I get really lonely sometimes and I have some confidence issues (though not as much as I used to in high school) so asking a girl out is hard. As it stands right now I don't even really *want* to ask anyone out. I just wouldn't know how to handle things. It's not even the fear of rejection as much as it is the fear she actually says yes.

When I'm with a group of friends I'm really witty and (if you can say this of yourself) funny with interesting things to say, but that just shuts down whenever it's one-on-one contact. Not even just with strangers,but even with the friends (bar that select few I'm just really comfortable with and close to). I just wouldn't know how to fill a few hours with someone I barely know. Especially with a girl I might be interested in.

Add to that I just started studying abroad and am having some issues motivating myself to study (have always had those, but I'm now getting to the point where I really can't afford to anymore) and a weight problem I've had all my life (lost 25 kg last year, but I'm starting to gain some of that weight back since I started living on my own).

All in all I just feel like now is not the time to focus on getting into a relationship (or any female contact really), but I also feel that the longer I wait actually getting out there the more I'll stand out as "that 23/24/25 year old guy who's never been with a girl before". In short, I just don't really know at this point.


For starters I can relate to you.

I am 26 and up until a few months ago had really never been in a relationship.

The likelyhood of you getting that label you are afraid of is fairly slim provided when you do approach whoever you are interested in confidently and being yourself. The girl I am currently dating is someone who actually likes the fact I have virtually no dating experience given my reasons were that I honestly was not ready to handle that level of commitment. Also given that we are older now shes hitting the age where she wants a mature / nicer guy (i say nice as in nice but you still need sarcasm or some form of edge). IE someone she can see settling down with. She is not abnormal in this given my experience as her friends are the same way, my co workers of similar age, etc...

Just be yourself, be confident and you will find someone when you are ready. The most you try to force it or make excuses the less likely it is to happen.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
January 08 2013 21:00 GMT
#1512
My ex just dumped me right before new years after >7 years ... back to the drawing board I guess ._.
Solaris999
Profile Joined January 2013
United Kingdom194 Posts
January 08 2013 21:11 GMT
#1513
On January 09 2013 06:00 nRoot wrote:
My ex just dumped me right before new years after >7 years ... back to the drawing board I guess ._.


So sorry to hear that, I know how you feel - try to take some time to collect yourself before diving back into dating though, and remember that however dark you feel now, you *will* recover!
InfusedTT.DaZe
Profile Joined August 2010
Romania693 Posts
January 08 2013 21:17 GMT
#1514
wow this thread is sad, i should stop reading it...

um, I never really had a girlfriend either, but the only girl I like is not interested at all in me as a lover I guess, haha, but I coudn't care less, she is nice to me and we talk about our hobbies, coudn't be more happy >)
"Echoes of past events nudge the tiller on my present course, I await its reflection in the future"
REDBLUEGREEN
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Germany1904 Posts
January 08 2013 21:25 GMT
#1515
It's a fucking mess.

I should be feeling super confident and happy.

Despite being a total wreck, in the worst physical shape of my life after not having done any sport for one year, the pretties asian girl I ever saw in reallife still managed to fall in love with me, despite her having a boyfriend. She complimented my intelligence, my nice character and the size of my dick (best compliment combination ever, seriously, what else can you hope for).
Later on I had other girls quite obviously attempting to flirt with me.
I even had one girl approaching me, when I was about to leave a club, telling me to stay because I was the right one for her for tonight.

I should be full of confidence and yet I am not.
I am not because I still have feelings for my ex and I know so does she. But somehow it is not working out right now.
And I don't understand why or if this is temporarily or permanently. And this state of not understanding is killing me, is killing all my confidence, all my potential interest in other girls.

Maybe soon I will be too desperate to have sex again and I will finally allow myself to show interest in other girls again.

In the meantime I am trying to just work on myself, like some here recommended. I am getting close to being physically the fittest I have ever been and I have finally started to move away from baggy pants and band t-shirts to wearing something more adult and stylish. I could never imagine it but I must say it looks surprisingly good
chadissilent
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada1187 Posts
January 08 2013 21:45 GMT
#1516
On January 09 2013 06:25 REDBLUEGREEN wrote:
It's a fucking mess.

I should be feeling super confident and happy.

Despite being a total wreck, in the worst physical shape of my life after not having done any sport for one year, the pretties asian girl I ever saw in reallife still managed to fall in love with me, despite her having a boyfriend. She complimented my intelligence, my nice character and the size of my dick (best compliment combination ever, seriously, what else can you hope for).
Later on I had other girls quite obviously attempting to flirt with me.
I even had one girl approaching me, when I was about to leave a club, telling me to stay because I was the right one for her for tonight.

I should be full of confidence and yet I am not.
I am not because I still have feelings for my ex and I know so does she. But somehow it is not working out right now.
And I don't understand why or if this is temporarily or permanently. And this state of not understanding is killing me, is killing all my confidence, all my potential interest in other girls.

Maybe soon I will be too desperate to have sex again and I will finally allow myself to show interest in other girls again.

In the meantime I am trying to just work on myself, like some here recommended. I am getting close to being physically the fittest I have ever been and I have finally started to move away from baggy pants and band t-shirts to wearing something more adult and stylish. I could never imagine it but I must say it looks surprisingly good

It sounds like you need a rebound to get that weight off your shoulders.
Dbars
Profile Joined July 2011
United States273 Posts
January 08 2013 21:47 GMT
#1517
On January 09 2013 04:32 rezoacken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 02:53 Dbars wrote:
Been single 10 years and refuse to ask a girl out that hasnt been single for at least a year. Last one crushed me tooooooooooooo hard and just dont want to put in the effort. Now if she were to make the moves, it would be a different story i think.


Don't want to be a dick but when you wait 10 years for a relationship, when you finally get one and it fails, it is bound to hurt really bad.



this is why i am still single. I have given up
Mikau
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Netherlands1446 Posts
January 08 2013 23:05 GMT
#1518
On January 09 2013 05:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 05:12 Mikau wrote:
Finally decided to post here.

I'll be 24 in a month, single and always have been. Still a virgin, haven't even ever kissed a girl. The few girls I made a move on turned me down (though I realise now I went about things about as bad as I could have with them). I get really lonely sometimes and I have some confidence issues (though not as much as I used to in high school) so asking a girl out is hard. As it stands right now I don't even really *want* to ask anyone out. I just wouldn't know how to handle things. It's not even the fear of rejection as much as it is the fear she actually says yes.

When I'm with a group of friends I'm really witty and (if you can say this of yourself) funny with interesting things to say, but that just shuts down whenever it's one-on-one contact. Not even just with strangers,but even with the friends (bar that select few I'm just really comfortable with and close to). I just wouldn't know how to fill a few hours with someone I barely know. Especially with a girl I might be interested in.

Add to that I just started studying abroad and am having some issues motivating myself to study (have always had those, but I'm now getting to the point where I really can't afford to anymore) and a weight problem I've had all my life (lost 25 kg last year, but I'm starting to gain some of that weight back since I started living on my own).

All in all I just feel like now is not the time to focus on getting into a relationship (or any female contact really), but I also feel that the longer I wait actually getting out there the more I'll stand out as "that 23/24/25 year old guy who's never been with a girl before". In short, I just don't really know at this point.


For starters I can relate to you.

I am 26 and up until a few months ago had really never been in a relationship.

The likelyhood of you getting that label you are afraid of is fairly slim provided when you do approach whoever you are interested in confidently and being yourself. The girl I am currently dating is someone who actually likes the fact I have virtually no dating experience given my reasons were that I honestly was not ready to handle that level of commitment. Also given that we are older now shes hitting the age where she wants a mature / nicer guy (i say nice as in nice but you still need sarcasm or some form of edge). IE someone she can see settling down with. She is not abnormal in this given my experience as her friends are the same way, my co workers of similar age, etc...

Just be yourself, be confident and you will find someone when you are ready. The most you try to force it or make excuses the less likely it is to happen.

Thanks.

I think that's what I was planning to do. Keep working on the things I want to work on (getting better at studying and losing another 15 kg) and let the rest just happen as it does. There's just that nagging feeling of "I should be further, emotionally". It doesn't help that every time you see family you get the "met a nice girl yet?" from different people though.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-09 00:20:22
January 09 2013 00:19 GMT
#1519
On January 09 2013 08:05 Mikau wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2013 05:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 09 2013 05:12 Mikau wrote:
Finally decided to post here.

I'll be 24 in a month, single and always have been. Still a virgin, haven't even ever kissed a girl. The few girls I made a move on turned me down (though I realise now I went about things about as bad as I could have with them). I get really lonely sometimes and I have some confidence issues (though not as much as I used to in high school) so asking a girl out is hard. As it stands right now I don't even really *want* to ask anyone out. I just wouldn't know how to handle things. It's not even the fear of rejection as much as it is the fear she actually says yes.

When I'm with a group of friends I'm really witty and (if you can say this of yourself) funny with interesting things to say, but that just shuts down whenever it's one-on-one contact. Not even just with strangers,but even with the friends (bar that select few I'm just really comfortable with and close to). I just wouldn't know how to fill a few hours with someone I barely know. Especially with a girl I might be interested in.

Add to that I just started studying abroad and am having some issues motivating myself to study (have always had those, but I'm now getting to the point where I really can't afford to anymore) and a weight problem I've had all my life (lost 25 kg last year, but I'm starting to gain some of that weight back since I started living on my own).

All in all I just feel like now is not the time to focus on getting into a relationship (or any female contact really), but I also feel that the longer I wait actually getting out there the more I'll stand out as "that 23/24/25 year old guy who's never been with a girl before". In short, I just don't really know at this point.


For starters I can relate to you.

I am 26 and up until a few months ago had really never been in a relationship.

The likelyhood of you getting that label you are afraid of is fairly slim provided when you do approach whoever you are interested in confidently and being yourself. The girl I am currently dating is someone who actually likes the fact I have virtually no dating experience given my reasons were that I honestly was not ready to handle that level of commitment. Also given that we are older now shes hitting the age where she wants a mature / nicer guy (i say nice as in nice but you still need sarcasm or some form of edge). IE someone she can see settling down with. She is not abnormal in this given my experience as her friends are the same way, my co workers of similar age, etc...

Just be yourself, be confident and you will find someone when you are ready. The most you try to force it or make excuses the less likely it is to happen.

Thanks.

I think that's what I was planning to do. Keep working on the things I want to work on (getting better at studying and losing another 15 kg) and let the rest just happen as it does. There's just that nagging feeling of "I should be further, emotionally". It doesn't help that every time you see family you get the "met a nice girl yet?" from different people though.


As far as I can read from your 2 posts (of course if I misread or make wrong assumptions feel free to ignore):

-Stop thinking about the whole relationship stuff and how its complex and a lot of work. You're not supposed to buy a house tomorrow. It really isn't complex. The starting point of a relationship should not ask you a lot more than a friend.
Really !
A few texts here and there, a date once or twice and a night at yours/hers. That's it. No long telephone conversation or 5 days a week of always being together. You have your life with a girlfriend in it and not the other way around (a girlfriend with a little bit of life).

-Maybe you do not have enough hobby (I'm just assuming). If there is stuff you want to do (climbing ? Krav Maga ? Gym ? Music ?), do them (or some of them). You'll feel better, meet people (maybe your gf will come from there), maybe get friends, get more interesting. Overall you'll like you better.

-If you feel you have physical issues you're not happy with, fix those that can be fixed, ignore the others. I read that you're losing weight. That's really good !

Good luck
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January 09 2013 00:38 GMT
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On January 09 2013 09:19 rezoacken wrote:
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On January 09 2013 08:05 Mikau wrote:
On January 09 2013 05:31 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
On January 09 2013 05:12 Mikau wrote:
Finally decided to post here.

I'll be 24 in a month, single and always have been. Still a virgin, haven't even ever kissed a girl. The few girls I made a move on turned me down (though I realise now I went about things about as bad as I could have with them). I get really lonely sometimes and I have some confidence issues (though not as much as I used to in high school) so asking a girl out is hard. As it stands right now I don't even really *want* to ask anyone out. I just wouldn't know how to handle things. It's not even the fear of rejection as much as it is the fear she actually says yes.

When I'm with a group of friends I'm really witty and (if you can say this of yourself) funny with interesting things to say, but that just shuts down whenever it's one-on-one contact. Not even just with strangers,but even with the friends (bar that select few I'm just really comfortable with and close to). I just wouldn't know how to fill a few hours with someone I barely know. Especially with a girl I might be interested in.

Add to that I just started studying abroad and am having some issues motivating myself to study (have always had those, but I'm now getting to the point where I really can't afford to anymore) and a weight problem I've had all my life (lost 25 kg last year, but I'm starting to gain some of that weight back since I started living on my own).

All in all I just feel like now is not the time to focus on getting into a relationship (or any female contact really), but I also feel that the longer I wait actually getting out there the more I'll stand out as "that 23/24/25 year old guy who's never been with a girl before". In short, I just don't really know at this point.


For starters I can relate to you.

I am 26 and up until a few months ago had really never been in a relationship.

The likelyhood of you getting that label you are afraid of is fairly slim provided when you do approach whoever you are interested in confidently and being yourself. The girl I am currently dating is someone who actually likes the fact I have virtually no dating experience given my reasons were that I honestly was not ready to handle that level of commitment. Also given that we are older now shes hitting the age where she wants a mature / nicer guy (i say nice as in nice but you still need sarcasm or some form of edge). IE someone she can see settling down with. She is not abnormal in this given my experience as her friends are the same way, my co workers of similar age, etc...

Just be yourself, be confident and you will find someone when you are ready. The most you try to force it or make excuses the less likely it is to happen.

Thanks.

I think that's what I was planning to do. Keep working on the things I want to work on (getting better at studying and losing another 15 kg) and let the rest just happen as it does. There's just that nagging feeling of "I should be further, emotionally". It doesn't help that every time you see family you get the "met a nice girl yet?" from different people though.


As far as I can read from your 2 posts (of course if I misread or make wrong assumptions feel free to ignore):

-Stop thinking about the whole relationship stuff and how its complex and a lot of work. You're not supposed to buy a house tomorrow. It really isn't complex. The starting point of a relationship should not ask you a lot more than a friend.
Really !
A few texts here and there, a date once or twice and a night at yours/hers. That's it. No long telephone conversation or 5 days a week of always being together. You have your life with a girlfriend in it and not the other way around (a girlfriend with a little bit of life).

-Maybe you do not have enough hobby (I'm just assuming). If there is stuff you want to do (climbing ? Krav Maga ? Gym ? Music ?), do them (or some of them). You'll feel better, meet people (maybe your gf will come from there), maybe get friends, get more interesting. Overall you'll like you better.

-If you feel you have physical issues you're not happy with, fix those that can be fixed, ignore the others. I read that you're losing weight. That's really good !

Good luck

You're right in that I'm overthinking it, I have a habit of doing that. It's not just thinking about the relationship though. Just the act of dating.....scares me I think? I'm generally bad at one-on-one interaction (though that's most likely all in my head). I think you're referring to the bit where I said school and sport take up too much? That wasn't really meant in terms of time, but in terms of energy. At this point just doing the shit that needs to be done takes up a lot of mental energy. I feel like I can't really focus on improving my social skills as well. Though, probably, that too is in my head.

I have hobbies, it's just that most of them aren't really the kind of hobby that attracts girls. I like wargaming/painting miniatures, videogames and biking (which is great for me, but works best for me when I do it alone). There are some things I want to be doing (and have done in the past) but to fit them in I need to work on managing my time better. Same goes for my studies. I have a passion for physics, but that's not something (most) girls are interested in. Science campus also happens to be a really shitty place to meet and interact with girls on a regular basis.

I fully agree with you that fixing the fixable physical issues should be a priority. Which is great, because I enjoy the sporting/working out aspect of it, even though I don't enjoy the not eating what I want bit.

To summarize, I think most of my problems are me overthinking and overcomplicating things. As far as I know though, fixing that isn't as simple as simply stopping it. As much as I'd like to sometimes, I can't turn off my brain. What I can and should though, is improving other areas and hoping the rest comes naturally.
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