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On August 19 2014 15:59 Danglars wrote:Not really a fruitful ground for pursuing, I'd find somebody else/keep looking. Show nested quote +She is currently living with him at his parents house out of need, not out of want. Shitty living situation isn't a point towards making big moves. I'd wager its convenience, not need. Possibly relishing in your attention/attention of others. It goes both ways, some girls never feeling "sexy" without it, but still far and beyond attached to current BF, others broadcasting a certain availability. It may be worth one or two more invitations to ascertain if she's over this bf, but beyond that nahhh.
Her parents got divorced and sold the house. She needed somewhere to live before she gets a place of her own. She'd rather not live with him at his parents, and he feels the same way. But they've done it before so you're right probably out of convenience.
She isn't the type to need to feel needy imo, but what do I know really. Like I said I've seen her outside of work before and she's never even come close to looking sexy, this was just out of no where. She's always calm, friendly and totally not an attention grabber that you'd recognize. I probably checked her out like twice the entire time because I was trying to act semi-respectful since she's a good friend and is taken. It wasn't like she was like constantly bending over and shit trying to give me views at all or constantly in super close contact me with.
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Women wearing revealing stuff is by no means an automated sign to pursue her. Some humans just want to feel pretty or just don't care enough what others think.
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On August 19 2014 17:47 Broetchenholer wrote:
Women wearing revealing stuff is by no means an automated sign to pursue her. Some humans just want to feel pretty or just don't care enough what others think.
I think what makes her attire worthy of curiosity is it's unusual nature.
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Since both of you like starcraft, is your plan to have her find this post?
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Hahahaha maybe that's the sign he wants to send to her who knows, he didn't stated he needed help in first place D:
Thanks for making my day Grumbels^^
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another reason people sometimes choose to wear less clothing is if its hot out.
in general i think assuming the way someone dressed was for you is pretty pretentious. even if they did it to look attractive.
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On August 19 2014 18:09 Grumbels wrote:
Since both of you like starcraft, is your plan to have her find this post?
She's more of a reddit girl. But now you've got me worried lol, she has been to TL.
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On August 13 2014 07:45 SoSexy wrote:
Super shocked right now.
I met a girl few weeks ago. Last weekend we hung out a lot, went to parties, she went to my house etc. Then today she spent the whole afternoon at my place, we had dinner and then we started to get sexy. We went to the bedroom, we took our clothes off, then I performed oral sex on her. She then took off my jeans and asked 'do we have to go to the bathroom? it's gonna get messy here' and I was like 'well I have condoms don't worry'.
She went CRAZY. She started talking about how I thought she is a slut and how can I think of fucking a girl I've only been knowing for some weeks. I replied 'well, I could have different ideas about you, but I just gave you oral sex and you took off my pants'. She started blabbing about how two people could do only 'warm-up stuff' and that I have a sick idea of people. I replied that my idea is simply what 99% of people think o.o
Man, she was really SO pissed off. I don't think I'll hear from her anytime soon...I have no intention to apologize, since I basically did what every man would have done in that same situation o.o
Do you remember this story guys? Yesterday evening that girl sent a picture of me that she took (nothing strange, it was me driving) to a (male) friend of mine, without any comment or text. Just the picture. Wtf...
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On August 22 2014 19:50 SoSexy wrote:
Do you remember this story guys? Yesterday evening that girl sent a picture of me that she took (nothing strange, it was me driving) to a (male) friend of mine, without any comment or text. Just the picture. Wtf...
She trying to remind you that she knows where you live? 
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On August 22 2014 20:42 Yoz wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2014 19:50 SoSexy wrote:
Do you remember this story guys? Yesterday evening that girl sent a picture of me that she took (nothing strange, it was me driving) to a (male) friend of mine, without any comment or text. Just the picture. Wtf... She trying to remind you that she knows where you live?
LOL
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On August 22 2014 19:50 SoSexy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2014 07:45 SoSexy wrote:
Super shocked right now.
I met a girl few weeks ago. Last weekend we hung out a lot, went to parties, she went to my house etc. Then today she spent the whole afternoon at my place, we had dinner and then we started to get sexy. We went to the bedroom, we took our clothes off, then I performed oral sex on her. She then took off my jeans and asked 'do we have to go to the bathroom? it's gonna get messy here' and I was like 'well I have condoms don't worry'.
She went CRAZY. She started talking about how I thought she is a slut and how can I think of fucking a girl I've only been knowing for some weeks. I replied 'well, I could have different ideas about you, but I just gave you oral sex and you took off my pants'. She started blabbing about how two people could do only 'warm-up stuff' and that I have a sick idea of people. I replied that my idea is simply what 99% of people think o.o
Man, she was really SO pissed off. I don't think I'll hear from her anytime soon...I have no intention to apologize, since I basically did what every man would have done in that same situation o.o Do you remember this story guys? Yesterday evening that girl sent a picture of me that she took (nothing strange, it was me driving) to a (male) friend of mine, without any comment or text. Just the picture. Wtf...
Maybe she's hooking you two up?
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On August 20 2014 08:39 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On August 19 2014 18:09 Grumbels wrote:
Since both of you like starcraft, is your plan to have her find this post? She's more of a reddit girl.
You know this and you're still into her?
But in all seriousness the We work together, she has a bf, who also works in the same place, she's just being friendly parts make this sound pretty straightforward. Hang around if you want to be her friend, but don't expect anything special to happen.
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Just broke up with the girlfriend. Dated for 11 months. Amazing relationship until the end. She started to be abusive emotionally. Oh well. Life goes on.
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Holy shit, I'm getting salty. Why are women so bad about making plans? I swear, it's like half a dozen different girls over the past few months that are always late or taking forever to text back. I would just assume they aren't into me, except they do eventually get back and want to do something. Then they are late to that something. I was supposed to meet this girl after work tonight. Then she texts me like an hour and a half late to say her phone was lost/died. She says she still wants to go out, but she's gonna eat something at home first. 2 hours later, and I have no idea wtf is up.
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On August 23 2014 10:25 TyrionSC2 wrote:
Just broke up with the girlfriend. Dated for 11 months. Amazing relationship until the end. She started to be abusive emotionally. Oh well. Life goes on.
Sorry to hear about that :/ Sounds like you got out when you needed to though! Far too many people are in abusive relationships and are too scared to leave.
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On August 23 2014 10:47 phyren wrote:
Holy shit, I'm getting salty. Why are women so bad about making plans? I swear, it's like half a dozen different girls over the past few months that are always late or taking forever to text back. I would just assume they aren't into me, except they do eventually get back and want to do something. Then they are late to that something. I was supposed to meet this girl after work tonight. Then she texts me like an hour and a half late to say her phone was lost/died. She says she still wants to go out, but she's gonna eat something at home first. 2 hours later, and I have no idea wtf is up.
Because they want you to take the lead for them.
Its kind of your cue to be the man.
A test if you will.
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A test how tough? Am I supposed to show up at their door and be like, we're going now? Not really much I can do other than call/text and ask them out. I actually had a girl I'm not interested in tell me she was crying over some guy who died and immediately ask me out. Out of pity, I say I can take her to do something tomorrow. The next day I call her and tell her I'm coming to pick her up. I get to her house where she stops picking up her phone but responds to texts with "I'll be out in a sec". Leaves me sitting out there 30 minutes.
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Don't date women (or men) who play bullshit games like that. This whole "test" shit is stupid. Date honest people who are straightforward with you.
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On August 23 2014 11:00 phyren wrote:
A test how tough? Am I supposed to show up at their door and be like, we're going now? Not really much I can do other than call/text and ask them out. I actually had a girl I'm not interested in tell me she was crying over some guy who died and immediately ask me out. Out of pity, I say I can take her to do something tomorrow. The next day I call her and tell her I'm coming to pick her up. I get to her house where she stops picking up her phone but responds to texts with "I'll be out in a sec". Leaves me sitting out there 30 minutes.
For the girl that wants to chill but wants to eat first, tell her this: "I know a great place. Meet me up @ x."
You have to know that guys encapsulate our emotions and girls have much more experience with theirs. And emotions have their momentum, the mood goes on and off.
When the intensity is hot, it is akin to make a timing push in SC2. A bit too late and her emotional states becomes cold again, then if you can't bring that intensity back on, you missed the opportunity.
Same thing can be applied to men. That's why a lot of businesses are done via coffee or alcohol talk as both sides' mental states are all warmed up and are more likely to make in the moment decisions.
Some time you just got to seize the day when the opportunity arises. That's the difference between able to bring the relationship to the next level or remain in the friend zone. And doing so proves your courage.
All girls like men that takes risks.
Also regarding honest people by DPB:
It depends on where you are located. In the western society, people are more direct in their approach. But in Asia, you really good to look for clues in terms of dealing with them. Sometime you yourself can't even be direct and straightforward because you don't want to hurt other people's feelings when criticizing people.
People ain't black and white, its more grey out. It really depends on the situation for dating: as long as the girl shows interest in you, you verify that interest with your own set of tests, and then if isn't a false negative, you want to grow that interest to aggrandize the sexual tension.
Dating is really a verbal seduction dance. And on the first date if the two have great dynamics, then they would most likely do it again.
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My rule of thumb is that if the woman doesn't show respect I'll tell her she can go fuck herself and get out of there. Seriously she wouldn't even let her dog wait on the porch for half an hour but she somehow thinks it acceptable to do to you? You should've taken a piss in her goddamn mailbox you know.
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