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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
November 06 2013 22:57 GMT
#6141
On November 07 2013 07:32 Shotcoder wrote:
What's the issue if she has a kid? I mean I had that issue with a chick but as I got to know her it really wasn't as big of a deal as I made it out to be at th beginning.


If you're just looking for fun then I don't think a kid is a problem (although girls with kids usually aren't just looking for fun), but if you're looking for a serious girlfriend then unless the kid is 10+ years old at least then you're going to be taking on the role of part time Dad at least to a child who isn't biologically yours. That's a pretty serious commitment.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
November 06 2013 23:09 GMT
#6142
On November 07 2013 07:32 Shotcoder wrote:
What's the issue if she has a kid? I mean I had that issue with a chick but as I got to know her it really wasn't as big of a deal as I made it out to be at th beginning.


I'm not looking for a relationship with someone who has a kid. I feel like that would have to be a relationship that I would have to be ready to really commit to whereas I'm not looking for that at the moment, but neither am I looking for just casual sex. Also since I'm very inexperienced in a relationship sense I would like a girl who is equally inexperienced, though I realize it's very hard to find an attractive socially competent girl who is still inexperienced at ~23.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 07 2013 00:39 GMT
#6143
On November 07 2013 07:31 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
Every girl I ask out says no. I guess they are all doing me a favor...or I am just a unattractive person XD


I would bet money that "every girl" means 2 or fewer in the recent past.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
WarSame
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada1950 Posts
November 07 2013 02:11 GMT
#6144
On November 07 2013 09:39 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 07:31 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
Every girl I ask out says no. I guess they are all doing me a favor...or I am just a unattractive person XD


I would bet money that "every girl" means 2 or fewer in the recent past.

He's shooting 0/0 from the field haha.
Can it be I stayed away too long? Did you miss these rhymes while I was gone?
KaiserKieran
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States615 Posts
November 07 2013 02:49 GMT
#6145
On November 07 2013 11:11 WarSame wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 09:39 IgnE wrote:
On November 07 2013 07:31 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
Every girl I ask out says no. I guess they are all doing me a favor...or I am just a unattractive person XD


I would bet money that "every girl" means 2 or fewer in the recent past.

He's shooting 0/0 from the field haha.

He's just gotta wait for that and one
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 03:13:45
November 07 2013 02:58 GMT
#6146
So god knows how many pages back I posted about a girl I met and we were gonna do the open relationship thing. Anyways about 3-4 weeks later she dumped me because she went to a therapist and the therapist said she needed to focus on herself and her kids. She wanted to remain friends though so i said sucked it up and went with it. At the same time her youngest kids dad was trying to get back together with her(emotionally abusive/control freak). About a week later she told me she got back with him. Fast forward to now and I told her I'm no longer interested in remaining friends.

The only reason we stayed friends is because I though she would realize how horrible that advice she paid for was and then come back to me. Was wrong obviously and now it's move on time.

I thought it would be tougher on my emotions to do it but doing it felt good and was surprisingly easy. Like a weight was removed.

edit: I don't know why I posted this lol. Their nothing to talk about :p
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
November 07 2013 04:03 GMT
#6147
Good for you to move on, you took the exact advice you would have been given had you not taken that step

Btw, 'youngest kid's dad' meaning she is single at the moment, with children from at least 2 different fathers already? I think it's good you got out of there.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 07 2013 04:04 GMT
#6148
She probably does need to work on herself. She's just not taking her therapist's advice. You should be glad you got out of that shit.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Orcasgt24
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada3238 Posts
November 07 2013 04:26 GMT
#6149
On November 07 2013 13:03 Najda wrote:
Good for you to move on, you took the exact advice you would have been given had you not taken that step

Btw, 'youngest kid's dad' meaning she is single at the moment, with children from at least 2 different fathers already? I think it's good you got out of there.

2 kids, two dads yes. However she is currently on relationship attempt 2 or 3 with the second kids dad. Not single (yet. it is inevitable).


On November 07 2013 13:04 IgnE wrote:
She probably does need to work on herself. She's just not taking her therapist's advice. You should be glad you got out of that shit.

She has issues, many of them (depression and stress based mainly). But I'd wager all of them are fixable if she would allow someone to help her and I thought I could and was willing to. Too stubborn and set in her mindsets though so yeah, bailing is the right call
In Hearthstone we pray to RNGesus. When Yogg-Saron hits the field, RNGod gets to work
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
November 07 2013 04:26 GMT
#6150
As a white dude, I seem only to attract white girls. However, I am attracted to girls with peanut butter/carmel colored complexions. i find myself somewhat perplexed. Mabye i need to move to the Phillipeans or Brazil.

/firstworldproblems
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 07 2013 04:53 GMT
#6151
White dudes are the most in-demand dudes. Black girls routinely complain that no white men will take them seriously and that they are at the bottom of the totem pole compared to women of other skin colors. Sounds like you are making excuses.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 05:39:35
November 07 2013 05:36 GMT
#6152
On November 07 2013 13:53 IgnE wrote:
White dudes are the most in-demand dudes. Black girls routinely complain that no white men will take them seriously and that they are at the bottom of the totem pole compared to women of other skin colors. Sounds like you are making excuses.

I like the middle ground between black and white. Something exotic like Hawaiian or Lebanese. Where I am now in Northern California their are several types of these girls around but they dont seem as approachable (at least to my perceptions) as other girls. Mabye I am just thinking to much or lack adaquate interpersonal communication skills.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
November 07 2013 05:38 GMT
#6153
you're definitely a racist
shikata ga nai
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
November 07 2013 05:38 GMT
#6154
they aren't as approachable because you are perhaps putting them on a pedestal? that's one perspective, I don't know the reality tho
I come in for the scraps
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 05:44:04
November 07 2013 05:43 GMT
#6155
On November 07 2013 14:38 sam!zdat wrote:
you're definitely a racist


I'm racist because I am not attracted to girls of my own ethnicity? Thats an interesting hypothesis.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 07 2013 06:16 GMT
#6156
You like them "exotic."
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 06:27:27
November 07 2013 06:25 GMT
#6157
On November 07 2013 15:16 IgnE wrote:
You like them "exotic."


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=exotic

being from asia, south america, caribbean, mediterranean, persia, arabia, etc... basically, anyone with tan skin, black shiny hair, big lushious lips, can dance and gyrate, curvy and smart. Exotic people have mysterious, alluring and sensual eyes.

Yep. Sounds about right. I just dont know why had to be labeled as a racist for having a discerning personal preference.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
November 07 2013 06:28 GMT
#6158
because Edward Said said so
shikata ga nai
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
November 07 2013 06:28 GMT
#6159
On November 07 2013 15:25 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 15:16 IgnE wrote:
You like them "exotic."


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=exotic

being from asia, south america, caribbean, mediterranean, persia, arabia, etc... basically, anyone with tan skin, black shiny hair, big lushious lips, can dance and gyrate, curvy and smart. Exotic people have mysterious, alluring and sensual eyes.

Yep. Sounds about right. I just dont know why had to be labeled as a racist for having a discerning personal preference.


He was joking bro and you didn't seem to get it.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18864 Posts
November 07 2013 06:29 GMT
#6160
Somehow, I don't think "LF gyrating big Persian girl" would make for a good personals ad.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
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