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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
November 07 2013 06:29 GMT
#6161
On November 07 2013 15:29 farvacola wrote:
Somehow, I don't think "LF gyrating big Persian girl" would make for a good personals ad.


Maybe on CL it will.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
November 07 2013 06:40 GMT
#6162
On November 07 2013 15:28 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 15:25 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
On November 07 2013 15:16 IgnE wrote:
You like them "exotic."


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=exotic

being from asia, south america, caribbean, mediterranean, persia, arabia, etc... basically, anyone with tan skin, black shiny hair, big lushious lips, can dance and gyrate, curvy and smart. Exotic people have mysterious, alluring and sensual eyes.

Yep. Sounds about right. I just dont know why had to be labeled as a racist for having a discerning personal preference.


He was joking bro and you didn't seem to get it.


I guess so. Calling people on TL a racist mustbe a great gag.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
November 07 2013 06:45 GMT
#6163
It's becoming clear why all of the women you approach are turned off.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
November 07 2013 07:02 GMT
#6164
On November 07 2013 14:36 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 13:53 IgnE wrote:
White dudes are the most in-demand dudes. Black girls routinely complain that no white men will take them seriously and that they are at the bottom of the totem pole compared to women of other skin colors. Sounds like you are making excuses.

I like the middle ground between black and white. Something exotic like Hawaiian or Lebanese. Where I am now in Northern California their are several types of these girls around but they dont seem as approachable (at least to my perceptions) as other girls. Mabye I am just thinking to much or lack adaquate interpersonal communication skills.


What do you mean not approachable? Just get out there and make some conversation with them. If you're the kind of guy who can pull off the hard sell you'll never be single again.
TOCHMY
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden1692 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-07 09:05:12
November 07 2013 09:00 GMT
#6165
A back-up girl from a manpower company to work as back-up when us regular staff are sick.

Cute as can be. Sweet as sugar. She laughs at my dirty jokes, even follows up with dirtier jokes. She's easy to talk to and enjoys anime, videogames, France and reading books.

I was too chicken to ask her out after our workday ended. I did some research and found out that she has a boyfriend. Figures... She's too good to be true!

I'm going to ask her out anyways next time. Boyfriend or not, she's too awesome to pass up, even as friends. Also, you gotta build those bridges.
Yoona <3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Look! It's Totoro! ☉.☉☂
MightyBill
Profile Joined October 2013
93 Posts
November 07 2013 11:51 GMT
#6166
Shagged my lab assistant today. Was explaining some equipment, and had to correct the angles of some stuff for her. I felt like a golf-teacher correcting someones posture from behind while putting "no bend your knees more, bend over, yeah like that".

Anyway a spark flew over while I held her hand on top of piece of equipment with my other hand around her waist, and next thing she turned around and she started kissing me. The homerun was hit already though
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
November 07 2013 15:18 GMT
#6167
On November 07 2013 20:51 MightyBill wrote:
Shagged my lab assistant today.

That sounds like something you can get in trouble for :/
calgar
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1277 Posts
November 07 2013 15:49 GMT
#6168
On November 08 2013 00:18 gedatsu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 20:51 MightyBill wrote:
Shagged my lab assistant today.

That sounds like something you can get in trouble for :/
Or a scene from Austin Powers. Yeah baby, yeah.
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
November 07 2013 21:15 GMT
#6169
On November 07 2013 11:58 Orcasgt24 wrote:
So god knows how many pages back I posted about a girl I met and we were gonna do the open relationship thing. Anyways about 3-4 weeks later she dumped me because she went to a therapist and the therapist said she needed to focus on herself and her kids. She wanted to remain friends though so i said sucked it up and went with it. At the same time her youngest kids dad was trying to get back together with her(emotionally abusive/control freak). About a week later she told me she got back with him. Fast forward to now and I told her I'm no longer interested in remaining friends.

The only reason we stayed friends is because I though she would realize how horrible that advice she paid for was and then come back to me. Was wrong obviously and now it's move on time.

I thought it would be tougher on my emotions to do it but doing it felt good and was surprisingly easy. Like a weight was removed.

edit: I don't know why I posted this lol. Their nothing to talk about :p

i personally think your a dick for relationship zoning her then lying about it.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-11-08 03:13:41
November 08 2013 02:36 GMT
#6170
On November 07 2013 16:02 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 14:36 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
On November 07 2013 13:53 IgnE wrote:
White dudes are the most in-demand dudes. Black girls routinely complain that no white men will take them seriously and that they are at the bottom of the totem pole compared to women of other skin colors. Sounds like you are making excuses.

I like the middle ground between black and white. Something exotic like Hawaiian or Lebanese. Where I am now in Northern California their are several types of these girls around but they dont seem as approachable (at least to my perceptions) as other girls. Mabye I am just thinking to much or lack adaquate interpersonal communication skills.


What do you mean not approachable? Just get out there and make some conversation with them. If you're the kind of guy who can pull off the hard sell you'll never be single again.


I asked a Peruvian girl in my Philosophy class out today as we are going to see a movie this weekend. Now all I have to do is pull a Justin Bieber.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
November 08 2013 03:38 GMT
#6171
On November 08 2013 11:36 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 16:02 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On November 07 2013 14:36 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
On November 07 2013 13:53 IgnE wrote:
White dudes are the most in-demand dudes. Black girls routinely complain that no white men will take them seriously and that they are at the bottom of the totem pole compared to women of other skin colors. Sounds like you are making excuses.

I like the middle ground between black and white. Something exotic like Hawaiian or Lebanese. Where I am now in Northern California their are several types of these girls around but they dont seem as approachable (at least to my perceptions) as other girls. Mabye I am just thinking to much or lack adaquate interpersonal communication skills.


What do you mean not approachable? Just get out there and make some conversation with them. If you're the kind of guy who can pull off the hard sell you'll never be single again.


I asked a Peruvian girl in my Philosophy class out today as we are going to see a movie this weekend. Now all I have to do is pull a Justin Bieber.


So you hope she's a tranny?
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
November 08 2013 03:57 GMT
#6172
What does it mean to 'pull a Justin Beiber'? Does it mean to be a senseless twat?
Dogfoodboy16
Profile Joined October 2013
364 Posts
November 08 2013 04:28 GMT
#6173
On November 08 2013 12:57 Najda wrote:
What does it mean to 'pull a Justin Beiber'? Does it mean to be a senseless twat?


It was a tongue and cheek reference to this video.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
November 08 2013 11:33 GMT
#6174
On November 08 2013 11:36 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 07 2013 16:02 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On November 07 2013 14:36 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
On November 07 2013 13:53 IgnE wrote:
White dudes are the most in-demand dudes. Black girls routinely complain that no white men will take them seriously and that they are at the bottom of the totem pole compared to women of other skin colors. Sounds like you are making excuses.

I like the middle ground between black and white. Something exotic like Hawaiian or Lebanese. Where I am now in Northern California their are several types of these girls around but they dont seem as approachable (at least to my perceptions) as other girls. Mabye I am just thinking to much or lack adaquate interpersonal communication skills.


What do you mean not approachable? Just get out there and make some conversation with them. If you're the kind of guy who can pull off the hard sell you'll never be single again.


I asked a Peruvian girl in my Philosophy class out today as we are going to see a movie this weekend. Now all I have to do is pull a Justin Bieber.


Nicely done dude.
Dr. Dumptruck
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada32 Posts
November 08 2013 19:32 GMT
#6175
So I just starting dating this girl that I know through a uni club, and it's the typical new relationship stuff, thinking about her all the time, wanting to hang out a ton and, of course, fucking like rabbits (XD). We've been friends for a while, and she really is good shit-not to mention the fact that she supports me in dota, which is, honestly, kind of a game of "can you outcarry the feed?" but it's still awesome.

The thing that strikes me the most, and the thing I want to say here, is how treating her well has really endeared her to me. Her ex-boyfriend (and being kind of a nerdy girl, the only other person that she has been seriously involved with) was kind of an asshole, who, admittedly, had his problems, but still didn't necessarily give her the respect she deserved (and also was terrible in the sack, which makes my somewhat above average skills look godly XD). But just by treating her well, and wanting her to develop herself and her goals independent of me, I've made her really become more attached to me.

As such, what I think I wanna say is that I understand the conundrum of "but I'm so nice to her why doesn't she like me, I'd treat her so much better than her boyfriend, etc." first hand, but I don't think that's true. It's just that women find confidence very attractive (it's the equivalent of men and physical attraction I think), and that someone needs to attracted to you sexually in order to discover the kind hearted dude you are underneath it all, which is the person that she'll fall in love with. I'm no model, but I've been with more women than the average (not that it's really a measure of anything significant) in just 5 years of being sexually active, and it's because I can dress myself and have a sense of humour and cofidence. So just my advice, don't abandon the nice hearted kid at the centre of it all, just learn to make people, for lack of a better word, want to jump you, and they'll discover it in time.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
November 08 2013 22:08 GMT
#6176
The difference as you mentioned is the confident part. The problem is that there are a lot of nice guys who aren't very confident, who then blame their lack of success on the fact that they are too nice rather than lack of confidence.
AssyrianKing
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia2115 Posts
November 08 2013 22:46 GMT
#6177
Absolutely shit !
John 15:13
Dr. Dumptruck
Profile Joined February 2013
Canada32 Posts
November 08 2013 23:31 GMT
#6178
On November 09 2013 07:08 Najda wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The difference as you mentioned is the confident part. The problem is that there are a lot of nice guys who aren't very confident, who then blame their lack of success on the fact that they are too nice rather than lack of confidence.


I agree wholeheartedly, attraction is a much overlooked part of the equation, especially amongst people that like to approach problems intellectually. I also think that men have it better in this regard-your attractiveness is more up to you than it is to women. I mainly posted it because I just had never seen such an obvious illustration of the idea-sorry for being a little off topic to what was being discussed in the thread.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
November 09 2013 15:57 GMT
#6179
On November 09 2013 08:31 Dr. Dumptruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 07:08 Najda wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The difference as you mentioned is the confident part. The problem is that there are a lot of nice guys who aren't very confident, who then blame their lack of success on the fact that they are too nice rather than lack of confidence.


I agree wholeheartedly, attraction is a much overlooked part of the equation, especially amongst people that like to approach problems intellectually. I also think that men have it better in this regard-your attractiveness is more up to you than it is to women. I mainly posted it because I just had never seen such an obvious illustration of the idea-sorry for being a little off topic to what was being discussed in the thread.


Don't really agree with that.

Aside from a very, very small minority of girls who are for want of a better word ugly.

Pretty much any girl will look great so long as she's not really overweight, wears nice clothes, has nice hair, wears make up etc..

If you're a size 6-12 UK sizes (I think that's 2-8 US) and put effort into your appearance then loads and loads of men are going to want you.

Most guys (me included) don't really care that much if a girl is a 6 or a 9, all that matters is that they meet your baseline for attractiveness and after that it's all about personality.

Almost any girl can make herself a 5 or above if she puts in some effort to looking good.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
November 09 2013 17:05 GMT
#6180
On November 10 2013 00:57 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 09 2013 08:31 Dr. Dumptruck wrote:
On November 09 2013 07:08 Najda wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
The difference as you mentioned is the confident part. The problem is that there are a lot of nice guys who aren't very confident, who then blame their lack of success on the fact that they are too nice rather than lack of confidence.


I agree wholeheartedly, attraction is a much overlooked part of the equation, especially amongst people that like to approach problems intellectually. I also think that men have it better in this regard-your attractiveness is more up to you than it is to women. I mainly posted it because I just had never seen such an obvious illustration of the idea-sorry for being a little off topic to what was being discussed in the thread.


Don't really agree with that.

Aside from a very, very small minority of girls who are for want of a better word ugly.

Pretty much any girl will look great so long as she's not really overweight, wears nice clothes, has nice hair, wears make up etc..

If you're a size 6-12 UK sizes (I think that's 2-8 US) and put effort into your appearance then loads and loads of men are going to want you.

Most guys (me included) don't really care that much if a girl is a 6 or a 9, all that matters is that they meet your baseline for attractiveness and after that it's all about personality.

Almost any girl can make herself a 5 or above if she puts in some effort to looking good.


Any guy can do the same thing. He can go to the gym, learn to dress well, but more importantly learn to act more confidently. Both genders have opportunities to increase their attractiveness to the opposite sex, although I would maybe agree women have it simpler, whereas men have more potential for growth.

Since a woman's attractiveness depends much more heavily on appearance, there is only a certain point she can reach with what she's been given. Men on the other hand don't have such tangible limits because their attractiveness depends moreso on personality and confidence than appearance.

You might be right in saying that 'most guys don't care if she's a 6 or a 9' but I disagree. Or rather not disagree, but instead would like to say that a high quality woman does not want "most guys," she wants an equally high quality man. This man most likely has a higher baseline of appearance in women he is attracted to, since most girls would be attracted to him. Not sure if I articulated that correctly, and I would love to hear a woman's point of view on the subject.
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