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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on. Posts of the following nature are banned: 1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post. 2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no. 3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture. 4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments. Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating. | ||
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
Turns out it was a guy. I had wandered into the gay part of the site. I do not believe that account has seen much use since. | ||
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Misaka
United Kingdom32 Posts
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kafkaesque
Germany2006 Posts
On April 27 2013 00:36 Misaka wrote: Who cares : ) If you click with someone, does it matter what gender they are? xx It somehow does. The penis is kind of a deal-breaker. Actually, scratch that. I mind the penis much less than the guy attached to it. Dudes are just gross. | ||
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wUndertUnge
United States1125 Posts
On April 27 2013 00:43 kafkaesque wrote: It somehow does. The penis is kind of a deal-breaker. Actually, scratch that. I mind the penis much less than the guy attached to it. Dudes are just gross. So chicks with dicks fly? | ||
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
But come on. Every fucking guy in the school is after her and she could get every single one of them. She's off the charts. A 1-10 scale doesn't apply to her. She is a model for christ sake. I know I have soul piercing blue eyes but objectively; I am nowhere near her level. | ||
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B.I.G.
3251 Posts
On April 26 2013 15:11 XiaoJoyce- wrote: Yea, I want to make up, fix things.. But for some reason, it is very hard for me. Oh dear.. If you really like this guy then you swallow your pride and go get him. No bulllshit. No whining on TL. Action. | ||
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Misaka
United Kingdom32 Posts
Why would what's in someone's pants be a dealbreaker for you? If you were with the girl of your dreams, and then one day she woke up and had magically changed in the night to have a penis, would you dump her? If yes, well, you're kind of an awful person. If no, then why does the person's sex organs matter to you. I can understand not wanting to date guys. I don't want to date guys, whether the guy has "boy bits" or "girl bits" but equally I would date a girl no matter what was in her pants! | ||
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Snotling
Germany885 Posts
On April 27 2013 02:21 Recognizable wrote: How's my luck? I don't know man. This dropdead gorgeous girl who broke up a couple of months ago with her boyfriend seems to have taking a liking to me. But I am not sure. Because she's perfect. It's the kind of girl everybody in the school knows. She skillfully rejected almost 6 guys at the last party. So obviously I am hesitant. On the other hand... I'm whatsapping with her and we were on the subject of cooking and she casually suggested that she wouldn't mind me cooking for her sometime. So yeah... But come on. Every fucking guy in the school is after her and she could get every single one of them. She's off the charts. A 1-10 scale doesn't apply to her. She is a model for christ sake. I know I have soul piercing blue eyes but objectively; I am nowhere near her level. You know that women dont compare looks the same way as guys, do you? There is a lot more that makes a man attraktive. There are so many guys with women way to pretty for them. why not join the club? If youre not butt-ugly she could very well find you attractive. And with an opener like the cooking thing there is really no reason to not at least try! Do it! Do it! Or i will find you and take your dick, because you dont deserve it anymore! | ||
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sambo400
United States378 Posts
On April 27 2013 02:24 Misaka wrote: Why would what's in someone's pants be a dealbreaker for you? If you were with the girl of your dreams, and then one day she woke up and had magically changed in the night to have a penis, would you dump her? If yes, well, you're kind of an awful person. If no, then why does the person's sex organs matter to you. I can understand not wanting to date guys. I don't want to date guys, whether the guy has "boy bits" or "girl bits" but equally I would date a girl no matter what was in her pants! Lol. It matters a lot if you consider the point of dating to be to find someone to make a family with eventually. I think most people intend to pass their genes along into the future and raise them with a family. I guess I'll share an uninteresting anecdote while I'm here. I'm in College and my fraternity's formal is today. Last weekend I asked this girl I am pretty interested in from one of my classes, since we flirt in class and sometimes study together (she's in a sorority too, which makes it easier to ask her since she knows what exactly I'm asking her to). I called her and she said she had plans to go home this weekend, but she would try to re-arrange them to go (hurray!). Then 2 days later she tells me her best friend got sexually assaulted (no idea what happened) and she is going to visit her instead. I was understanding/supportive outwardly but actually very bummed out for both selfish and unselfish reasons. Anyway I found this other girl who is friends of most of the fraternity who wanted to go (she said no at first because she is still "in love" with her ex boyfreind in my fraternity, but eventually called me and said she wanted to go. She was concerned and had to tell me she's "single but not available", and said no at first because she thought I was like secretly in love with her or something, which supposedly half my chapter is according to her (lol)). So I'm secretly hoping to make the first girl jealous since I'm actually interested in her. I'm not entirely sure what to think about the sexual assault story though. Something about it seems fishy. | ||
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knOxStarcraft
Canada422 Posts
On April 27 2013 02:24 Misaka wrote: Why would what's in someone's pants be a dealbreaker for you? If you were with the girl of your dreams, and then one day she woke up and had magically changed in the night to have a penis, would you dump her? If yes, well, you're kind of an awful person. If no, then why does the person's sex organs matter to you. I can understand not wanting to date guys. I don't want to date guys, whether the guy has "boy bits" or "girl bits" but equally I would date a girl no matter what was in her pants! Are you trolling? You really think that someone is an awful person because they would dump a girl with a dick? I'd say sexual interaction is fairly important in a dating relationship, and unless the guy wants to go dick on dick, his girlfriend having a dick would be problematic. Even if she had a dick and a vagina it would be a huge turn off. | ||
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Recognizable
Netherlands1552 Posts
On April 27 2013 02:31 Snotling wrote: You know that women dont compare looks the same way as guys, do you? There is a lot more that makes a man attraktive. There are so many guys with women way to pretty for them. why not join the club? If youre not butt-ugly she could very well find you attractive. And with an opener like the cooking thing there is really no reason to not at least try! Do it! Do it! Or i will find you and take your dick, because you dont deserve it anymore! Damn right I will try. But with a girl like that it's hard not to have your doubts. I seriously don't find myself that attractive. I know I am well liked, probably intelligent. But so is she. I just don't see myself as attractive. I don't know man. I seem to have a fanclub of 14 year old girls who stare at me and give random compliments on my eyes, but I figured it's just because I am four years older than them. | ||
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Misaka
United Kingdom32 Posts
On April 27 2013 02:34 knOxStarcraft wrote: Are you trolling? You really think that someone is an awful person because they would dump a girl with a dick? I'd say sexual interaction is fairly important in a dating relationship, and unless the guy wants to go dick on dick, his girlfriend having a dick would be problematic. Even if she had a dick and a vagina it would be a huge turn off. Well, I just think there are more ways for a couple to have sex than by putting a penis in a vagina. You might not be wild out penises, I'm not either, but for my ideal girl... I mean, what you are essentially saying is "You are great and everything, we get on like a house on fire and I love you, but none of that matters more than me achieving sexual satisfaction as easilly as possible" Let's be realistic here, it's pretty goddamn easy to get someone off who is attracted to you, regardless of whether you are naked below the waist or not. It's not as if you'd never enjoy sex ever again. It's an inconvenience but I don't think it should outweigh everything else in the relationship, or you're saying that all your "dream girl" is worth to you is sexual satisfaction. As for the guy talking about having a family, it's something to consider, sure. But there are plenty of ways you can have a family without one penis and one vagina. Adoption, fostering etc, if if the DNA aspect is so important to you, sperm donors or surrogates can fill in the other half of that gap. *shrug* I just think you guys are making way too big of a deal out of it! | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
On April 27 2013 02:41 Misaka wrote: Well, I just think there are more ways for a couple to have sex than by putting a penis in a vagina. You might not be wild out penises, I'm not either, but for my ideal girl... I mean, what you are essentially saying is "You are great and everything, we get on like a house on fire and I love you, but none of that matters more than me achieving sexual satisfaction as easilly as possible" Let's be realistic here, it's pretty goddamn easy to get someone off who is attracted to you, regardless of whether you are naked below the waist or not. It's not as if you'd never enjoy sex ever again. It's an inconvenience but I don't think it should outweigh everything else in the relationship, or you're saying that all your "dream girl" is worth to you is sexual satisfaction. As for the guy talking about having a family, it's something to consider, sure. But there are plenty of ways you can have a family without one penis and one vagina. Adoption, fostering etc, if if the DNA aspect is so important to you, sperm donors or surrogates can fill in the other half of that gap. *shrug* I just think you guys are making way too big of a deal out of it! I have many good guy friends who I would try to date if they were girls all along. But I would feel weird with guys. I don't care if it's insensitive. | ||
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Misaka
United Kingdom32 Posts
On April 27 2013 02:44 obesechicken13 wrote: I have many good guy friends who I would try to date if they were girls all along. But I would feel weird with guys. I don't care if it's insensitive. I don't think it's wrong to not want to date guys, that's totally fine. I think it's wrong to want to date those male friends, if they had a vagina, but not if they have a penis (everything else staying the same) Equally, I think it's wrong to want to date a certain girl, but only if she has a vagina, and not a penis. Saying "well, I would date you but I'm not into guys" is totally fine, so long as the fact that they are male, with everything that goes with that, is driving your desicion, and not the fact that there is a penis between their legs. | ||
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Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
On April 27 2013 02:48 Misaka wrote: I don't think it's wrong to not want to date guys, that's totally fine. I think it's wrong to want to date those male friends, if they had a vagina, but not if they have a penis (everything else staying the same) Equally, I think it's wrong to want to date a certain girl, but only if she has a vagina, and not a penis. Saying "well, I would date you but I'm not into guys" is totally fine, so long as the fact that they are male, with everything that goes with that, is driving your desicion, and not the fact that there is a penis between their legs. I think it's very much like with homosexuality in the past, you would have people that would fancy themselves progressive, who would be very tolerant of gay people, but that would still express some sentiment like being uncomfortable with the idea of two men having sex with each other. And obviously a person has a right to such notions, they are entitled to various deal breakers, but while their tolerance is to be admired, I think that most people would now recognize that homophobia is still in play here. I imagine/hope that in the future the same will happen for transgender issues, once our culture is more accustomed to the idea and there are more positive examples of it in the media and so on. | ||
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
It was meant as a lighthearted anecdote on the subject of online dating, I was 17 years old at the time, with hormones coming out of my ears. It was just an amusing setback brought on by an overpowering urge to copulate, before I was old enough to control it. | ||
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Magic_Mike
United States542 Posts
On April 27 2013 03:14 Grumbels wrote: I think it's very much like with homosexuality in the past, you would have people that would fancy themselves progressive, who would be very tolerant of gay people, but that would still express some sentiment like being uncomfortable with the idea of two men having sex with each other. And obviously a person has a right to such notions, they are entitled to various deal breakers, but while their tolerance is to be admired, I think that most people would now recognize that homophobia is still in play here. I imagine/hope that in the future the same will happen for transgender issues, once our culture is more accustomed to the idea and there are more positive examples of it in the media and so on. Not liking something does not equal homophobia. Because someone isn't attracted to or wouldn't date someone who has a penis doesn't make them a homophobe any more than not wanting to cuddle a giant fucking spider means you have arachnophobia. People can have any deal breakers they want. Being gay or straight is not something people should be made to feel like they are a bad person for choosing one over the other. Would you say someone was a "straightophobe" if a gay person hung out with and had everything in common with a member of the opposite sex but wouldn't be in a relationship with them because they weren't a member of the same sex? | ||
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Ryalnos
United States1946 Posts
On April 27 2013 03:19 McBengt wrote: Woah, what did I create here o0. It was meant as a lighthearted anecdote on the subject of online dating, I was 17 years old at the time, with hormones coming out of my ears. It was just an amusing setback brought on by an overpowering urge to copulate, before I was old enough to control it. Definitely don't feel bad about it. Especially given how fantasy/imagination of who you're talking to impacts whether or not sharing the same interests implies romantic interest... If you thought you were talking to someone you might be attracted to, you'd behave/process it differently than if you were talking to a buddy who could also share a lot of your interests... Just as it's not racist to have a preference for people with appearances similar to your own 'race' ... | ||
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Misaka
United Kingdom32 Posts
On April 27 2013 03:21 Magic_Mike wrote: Not liking something does not equal homophobia. Because someone isn't attracted to or wouldn't date someone who has a penis doesn't make them a homophobe any more than not wanting to cuddle a giant fucking spider means you have arachnophobia. People can have any deal breakers they want. Being gay or straight is not something people should be made to feel like they are a bad person for choosing one over the other. Would you say someone was a "straightophobe" if a gay person hung out with and had everything in common with a member of the opposite sex but wouldn't be in a relationship with them because they weren't a member of the same sex? Okay. Let's just shut this down right now. We arn't talking about guys vs girls here. We are talking about girls with a penis vs girls with a vagina. I don't want to date guys either, regardless of whether a guy has a penis or a vagina. Having genitals of the opposite sex doesn't mean you are the opposite sex. Saying "I wouldn't date a girl who was otherwise the girl of my dreams, just because she has a penis" or saying that you would dump the girl of your dreams if she magically appeared with one overnight, because "you're straight" is transphobic, plain and simple. She's still a girl, regardless of what's in her pants and if what's in her pants matters that much to you, I just think it's really sad and tragic, and I pity all your future sexual partners as you're obviously not able to think outside of very boring constraints. You're allowed to have whatever views you like, but bear in mind that if they are THESE views, it is transphobic. You wouldn't date a guy, even if he had a vagina, so why would you NOT date a girl, just because she doesn't have one? | ||
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Snotling
Germany885 Posts
Im for example am just not into dicks^^. and no matter how hot a girl is, i would never have sex with her if she had one. thats my sexual preference. but by no means i have anything against anyone on the basis of his/her genitalia. not fucking someone is not whateverphobia | ||
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