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TheGlassface
United States612 Posts
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Traeon
Austria366 Posts
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
Uh.... that's kind of disconcerting... | ||
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Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
On October 18 2011 06:05 EtherealDeath wrote: Uh.... that's kind of disconcerting... This can't be real. So soon? | ||
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
That was 2 years ago... | ||
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BioNova
United States598 Posts
The MIAC report was a few years old... it still reminds me of the way things have gone terribly wrong. The MIAC was relatively unknown until March 13, 2009, when a leaked report entitled "The Modern Militia Movement," originating from MIAC, appeared on Wikileaks, and subsequently on Infowars. Subsequent investigation was spearheaded by the Liberty Restoration Project out of Kansas City, Missouri. The report detailed trends in militia and terrorist activity in Missouri and described common symbols and media associated with militia members and domestic terrorists, in order to help police identify them. The report as leaked included suggestions that political bumper stickers such as those for U.S. Rep. Ron Paul could be used to identify militia members and terrorists[2]. The authenticity of the report was confirmed by Lt. John Hotz, the Assistant Director of the Public Information and Education Division of the Missouri State Highway Patrol, who claims that the report is derived purely from publicly available trend data on militias[1]. As of MARCH 27, 2009 the entire report was scrapped and letters of apology were sent to Ron Paul, Bob Barr and Chuck Baldwin.[3] Legislation was passed in Missouri which included an amendment to cut funding to the MIAC should it again engage in political profiling, and the director of the MIAC was reassigned. It also detailed people who knew the constitution as threats. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
http://anp14.com/news/archives.php?report_date=2011-10-16 And Socialist Party USA Also China is a big fan of OWS too http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia-pacific/china-says-wall-street-protests-highlight-issues-worth-considering/2011/10/17/gIQARM62qL_story.html?wprss=rss_world (use this not only as an informative post but also an ironic one because the movement was started by socialists and communists). Can anyone explain why almost every single protester complains about their student loans, but not a single one of them are outside protesting universities (the only entities that can stop 5-10% yearly tuition inflation)? | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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Velr
Switzerland10939 Posts
This whole thing is basically just against money ruling/influencing our goverment. You could call it "fight against corruption/lobbyism/corporate influence"... Whatever, it doesn't matter and it certainly does not need a totally mapped out idea behind it because the whole "demand" is really as grassroots as it gets... The goverments shall just stop to suck the cock of "big money". It's NOT against free marked or capitalism... TONS of groups unhappy with the current system naturally jump onto the allready rolling bandwagon (something they couldn't start themselves in DECADES)... So.. Now suddenly some people think, these groups are behind these protests and now suddenly could start them somehow? I laugh at you. | ||
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BioNova
United States598 Posts
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VPCursed
1044 Posts
thats scary. rly? TT | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On October 18 2011 07:18 Velr wrote: Why don't people get this: This whole thing is basically just against money ruling/influencing our goverment. You could call it "fight against corruption/lobbyism/corporate influence"... Whatever, it doesn't matter and it certainly does not need a totally mapped out idea behind it because the whole "demand" is really as grassroots as it gets... The goverments shall just stop to suck the cock of "big money". It's NOT against free marked or capitalism... TONS of groups unhappy with the current system naturally jump onto the allready rolling bandwagon (something they couldn't start themselves in DECADES)... So.. Now suddenly some people think, these groups are behind these protests and now suddenly could start them somehow? I laugh at you. Can you explain why OWS picked the communist fist as the symbol to represent their cause? | ||
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BioNova
United States598 Posts
On October 18 2011 07:27 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Can you explain why OWS picked the communist fist as the symbol to represent their cause? They probably anticipated running into someone like you who's posts are irritatingly tinfoil, makes me look sane. Are you sure that's not a black panther fist? Maybe the guy from CB4... If your scared of communism sneaking in, and your not at least in favor of the intent of these political activists, then you are + Show Spoiler + a very bad provocatuer yourself | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10939 Posts
They actually got the fist from: ![[image loading]](http://melbournehouse.kknd2.com/images/survivor_logo.gif){kind=logo} KKND! The OWS people are "survivors" that crawled out of the ground to bring down our Mutant overlords! | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On October 18 2011 07:39 BioNova wrote: They probably anticipated running into someone like you who's posts are irritatingly tinfoil, makes me look sane. Are you sure that's not a black panther fist? Maybe the guy from CB4... If your scared of communism sneaking in, and your not at least in favor of the intent of these political activists, then you are + Show Spoiler + a very bad provocatuer yourself Yes, clearly the demands of OWS being communist ideals from the very first day, and using communist visuals, and having communists, marxists, socialists (which Churchill says are virtually identical), and Nazi's supporting them clearly makes me irrational for thinking they are communists. Atleast you will have plausible deniability when your movement is "co-opted." Also can someone answer this for me. On October 18 2011 06:53 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Can anyone explain why almost every single protester complains about their student loans, but not a single one of them are outside protesting universities (the only entities that can stop 5-10% yearly tuition inflation)? | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10939 Posts
ugh... bedtime, gn8. | ||
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radiatoren
Denmark1907 Posts
On October 18 2011 07:48 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Yes, clearly the demands of OWS being communist ideals from the very first day, and using communist visuals, and having communists, marxists, socialists (which Churchill says are virtually identical), and Nazi's supporting them clearly makes me irrational for thinking they are communists. Atleast you will have plausible deniability when your movement is "co-opted." Also can someone answer this for me. So many commies in Madrid, Athen and Rome. McCartyism was several decades ago, get over it! Any protest without a completely clear demand will unevitably be coopted by extremes who want to influence the message. You appearently only see what you want to see. Who are you to judge the people participating without being there yourself? | ||
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
On October 18 2011 06:53 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Congratulations, OWS has gotten the long sought after Nazi endorsement. http://anp14.com/news/archives.php?report_date=2011-10-16 And Socialist Party USA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZrV7VhxoWk Also China is a big fan of OWS too http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia-pacific/china-says-wall-street-protests-highlight-issues-worth-considering/2011/10/17/gIQARM62qL_story.html?wprss=rss_world (use this not only as an informative post but also an ironic one because the movement was started by socialists and communists). Can anyone explain why almost every single protester complains about their student loans, but not a single one of them are outside protesting universities (the only entities that can stop 5-10% yearly tuition inflation)? Modern China is not in the least bit communist or socialistic. They have less social welfare then the US. About the only thing socialistic about China is the proliferation of state run companies(most bloated legacies of the communist era, being gradually downsized). They are just using it as propaganda, from my experience briefly living in China, the perception of many regular Chinese people is that the USA is a pretty nice place to live (and I agree with them). Just because assorted movements claim to support them, does not mean they agree with them. I would guess a good number of the protesters are on the far left, but that does not mean the protests are calling for socialism. I doubt many, if any, of the protesters would agree with Nazi ideology. I find your attempt at guilt by association rather juvenile, especially as the association is fabricated. | ||
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Samwisethebrave
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 18 2011 06:53 SnK-Arcbound wrote: Congratulations, OWS has gotten the long sought after Nazi endorsement. http://anp14.com/news/archives.php?report_date=2011-10-16 And Socialist Party USA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZrV7VhxoWk Also China is a big fan of OWS too http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia-pacific/china-says-wall-street-protests-highlight-issues-worth-considering/2011/10/17/gIQARM62qL_story.html?wprss=rss_world (use this not only as an informative post but also an ironic one because the movement was started by socialists and communists). Can anyone explain why almost every single protester complains about their student loans, but not a single one of them are outside protesting universities (the only entities that can stop 5-10% yearly tuition inflation)? Ofc china endorses it a country with 0 problems with money and government and just adores the idea of staged protest against government. I can't see why they wouldn't do it oh wait i could..propaganda. Why would you protest at a university? Unless it's private school you'd have to protest the state and the federal government due to cuts there which trickle though the system and thus cause tuition hikes. Also it doesn't matter who endorses it but rather who is running the show =p I can say i'm for guns for everyone but if i'm not doing anything to the proliferation spread what's the point. | ||
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