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On September 03 2011 00:46 MadPretty wrote: George Lucas has turned into that kid at the playground who keeps changing his superpowers while you play "X-Men".
Cartman? He was actually playing ninjas with the guys.
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STOP THE PRESSES THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING ... jk :D
As a pretty big (old episode) stars wars fan, I don't really mind it. I think had it been in the original version nobody would have looked at Vader differently than they do now.
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obviiously noone should buy the product. its a shame, but you have to destroy something thats been tainted, and the only way to do that with film is complete abstinence from buying said product.
I was 8 when I saw VI, and I understood the concept without him saying "no".
OR maybe the scene is now a juxtaposition of darth vader being fans, GL being palpatine, and Luke being his films.
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As I've always said; George Lucas is ruining Star Wars
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I think the only good thing to come out of the Blu-Ray edits is the Yoda CG replacement for the puppet.
I saw someone photoshopping Hayder's face when Luke takes Vader's mask off. Hopefully, that wasn't true.
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On September 03 2011 01:04 MadNeSs wrote:I think it sucks ass  . The effect was so much better when he didnt speak, and just threw him over the ledge. It sound so corny... why george why?
If you think about it... a lot of stuff that happens in starwars is corny.
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Oh, and the whole "han shot first" thing. I saw the digital remake and could tell something was wrong with that scene from the jitter imposed by the editing to make him shift to the side, I just never knew the scene was altered so he would be "self defense" instead of "outright murder".
Thats the point of the scene, its like the whole "wild west" theme in outer space. Thank god GL doesn't have rights to edit Good, the bad, and the ugly, or A fistful of dollars.
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Goerge Lucas apparently hates Star Wars fans
The feeling is mutual.
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On September 03 2011 05:57 Hinanawi wrote:The feeling is mutual. This is such a sad fact. George Lucas is a great fucking man (at least used to be), but he's worked so hard on destroying his own reputation lately.
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Tasteless would call you all hipsters. The only reason the "noo" seems out of place is because you are used to seeing the scene without it. Had you have never seen Starwars before, I highly doubt any of you would even think twice about it.
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It's like poetry, it rhymes! You guys just don't understand!
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On September 03 2011 05:32 Marklar667 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 03 2011 00:46 MadPretty wrote: George Lucas has turned into that kid at the playground who keeps changing his superpowers while you play "X-Men". Cartman? He was actually playing ninjas with the guys. I don't think he was specifically mentioning anything except a person we could most likely relate to in our childhood ;p
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....its his movie, his franchise, his way of seeing that moment and how he felt Vader was "feeling" at that time. He probably felt in the original movies Vader didnt express his real emotions thoroughly in episode 3. He still came across as a cold person and Lucas probably never meant to show him in that way.
The real killer for me in the prequel movies was casting Hayden Christenson as Anakin Skywalker. He is so BAD. I think if they wanted someone who looked just as good but acted better, James Franco would have been a better choice.
100% of all movies considered great, have a deeper meaning to them than what is presented.
George Lucas hates his fans? pretty strong oppinion coming from someone who knows nothing about the man.
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On September 03 2011 06:03 elmizzt wrote: It's like poetry, it rhymes! You guys just don't understand!
Aahahahaha . Those reviews are so awesome, and that quote is one of the best parts.
On September 03 2011 06:02 Okiesmokie wrote: Tasteless would call you all hipsters. The only reason the "noo" seems out of place is because you are used to seeing the scene without it. Had you have never seen Starwars before, I highly doubt any of you would even think twice about it.
Well that's the point. There is a previous version, and it's better. Vader killing Emperor while thinking in silence = audience can follow his train of thought, sympathize with him, a whole story is told with uttering a single word. Vader screaming "Nooooo" - stereotypical rage response, audience doesn't have to think for themselves, edited scene takes away from total experience.
We have seen SW before, and we've come to respect / like / love it the way it was (depending on level of fan-dom). Some things just don't need editing or "improvement".
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God. No wonder he made the Phantom Menace.
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On September 03 2011 06:18 Shockk wrote: Well that's the point. There is a previous version, and it's better. Vader killing Emperor while thinking in silence = audience can follow his train of thought, sympathize with him, a whole story is told with uttering a single word. Vader screaming "Nooooo" - stereotypical rage response, audience doesn't have to think for themselves, edited scene takes away from total experience.
We have seen SW before, and we've come to respect / like / love it the way it was (depending on level of fan-dom). Some things just don't need editing or "improvement". The only difference is that now people who would not have been able to understand his train of thought before he threw the emperor over the bridge (ie: the younger generation, new viewers of Star Wars), are now able to see the anguish he was suffering. The end result is the same, except more people can enjoy it. I don't see why people complain about it.
I know in the past I have watched the movie with younger kids and have been asked why Vader did what he did.
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On September 03 2011 06:17 wingweaver415 wrote: ....its his movie, his franchise, his way of seeing that moment and how he felt Vader was "feeling" at that time. He probably felt in the original movies Vader didnt express his real emotions thoroughly in episode 3. He still came across as a cold person and Lucas probably never meant to show him in that way.
The real killer for me in the prequel movies was casting Hayden Christenson as Anakin Skywalker. He is so BAD. I think if they wanted someone who looked just as good but acted better, James Franco would have been a better choice.
100% of all movies considered great, have a deeper meaning to them than what is presented.
George Lucas hates his fans? pretty strong oppinion coming from someone who knows nothing about the man.
Hayden Christensen is a good actor, he just got given a shitty script. It's hard to make lines like "You've grown... More beautiful I mean" sound good. Shattered Glass is a much better demonstration of his ability since it has a good script and good direction. If you've seen that then you know that cringe-worthy Anakin Skywalker moments are direction/scripting issues rather than Hayden's inability to act.
That's what I think anyway.
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It wasn't THAT cringe-worthy to be honest. For a second there I thought we were gonna see Hayden's face or something.
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