Oh look it's this time of the year again : when nerdy hipsters go on rampage because Georges Lucas has modify something in their beloved films.
Let me enlighten you guys : It doesn't matter what you think.
Furthermore, I'd like you to think about the following topics before saying stupid things on topics you don't understand : The sacralization of nerd culture over the years. The fanaticism related to the nerd culture. The impact it has on other people. The impact the Star Wars movies had on you and how a rejuvenation is helping it. The difference between art and entertainment. The rights of artist to modify their own work without any outside pressure.
PS : I find you really outright pathetic, borderline creepy. For me you are the reason mainstream medias still consider us as retarded 12 years old who can't let go their shiny toys.
I can't think of any decent reason to make that sort of a change. I mean come on, let the movies stand on their own as classics without changing various things in later format editions
On September 04 2011 19:02 Odoakar wrote: Please watch this to understand why Phantom Menace is just awful:
Oh, it takes some effort to get used to the reviewer, but he's awesome and makes some great points which show that he has a good understanding on how movies work.
He's got great points, and a good clear way of showing his points. Pity his voice is so droll.
Oh, it takes some effort to get used to the reviewer, but he's awesome and makes some great points which show that he has a good understanding on how movies work.
He's got great points, and a good clear way of showing his points. Pity his voice is so droll.
That's the point. It's funny... :|
Personally I like Episode 1. Yeah I understand what he was saying and all, but Episode 1 was my first SW movie. Like others before me who are so attached to the Original Trilogy I am to Episode 1. And who says you need to follow the Shakespearean Model of the Hero Cycle.
Could it have been better? Of course, but so could have alot of movies that we know and love. But, If i were to make 1 change that would be to make Obi-wan the protagonist. Really the role of the protagonist in this movie is shared between Obi and Ani, and as a result did not accomplish what most people expect.
All in all I love the movie, and hope the Lucas makes a Prequel of the Prequel Trilogy.
The following write-up "The Secret History of Star Wars" and the video "The Mythology of Star Wars" explain the real essence and influences of Star Wars. Whether Darth Vader says NOOOOO or not , has nothing to do with what Star Wars is all about.
On September 09 2011 06:59 Otolia wrote: Oh look it's this time of the year again : when nerdy hipsters go on rampage because Georges Lucas has modify something in their beloved films.
Let me enlighten you guys : It doesn't matter what you think.
Furthermore, I'd like you to think about the following topics before saying stupid things on topics you don't understand : The sacralization of nerd culture over the years. The fanaticism related to the nerd culture. The impact it has on other people. The impact the Star Wars movies had on you and how a rejuvenation is helping it. The difference between art and entertainment. The rights of artist to modify their own work without any outside pressure.
PS : I find you really outright pathetic, borderline creepy. For me you are the reason mainstream medias still consider us as retarded 12 years old who can't let go their shiny toys.
Were you under the mistaken impression you actually had anything of value to contribute, or have you just been waiting for an excuse to use the phrase "nerdy hipsters"
Let me enlighten you: it doesn't matter what you think.
Just be grateful we have Star Wars to being with. Lucas is entitled to as many (widely perceived) blunders as he wants for giving us Star Wars in the first place. So what he thought Vader needed to express his new found good side a little more vocally - it really doesn't change anything and if it bothers you watch an old version.
Ep.1-3 are really different. I like the original trilogy better for various reasons, but I still never really minded the new trilogy. What I don't really understand is why they found it necessary to go back to the old trilogy and change things in it. A bit senseless, really.
I never really minded Greedo shooting first, yea i can see why the fans complained, but in the overall picture Han Solo was still a bad ass and the "anti hero" to Luke's more traditional hero.
What bothered me the most was seeing Hayden at the end of ROTJ, as that brings up new problems that werent there. Didnt Anakin REDEEM himself at the end of ROTJ by saving his son? Isent that his entire story arc? That its never too late to do the right thing? That Anakin really was the chosen one and fulfilled his destiny, tough in a unexpected way?
Thus older, redeemed Anakin should appear with Yoda and Ben as the ghostly..whatever they are at the end.
This new change is bad, we can all agree, and the Flanneled One should stop fucking with these movies. He took the worst line out all 6 movies (yes worst than anything Jar Jar or Jake Lloyd ever said) and implented it in ROTJ, in the most important scene in all 6 films.
Putting in a CGI Yoda in Phantom Menace i actually support, that thing was hideous in PT,, awful.
Non-intrusive CGI that fixes problems that were unsolvable back then because the technology wasn't up to par? Sure I'm all for that. Even stuff like blinking ewoks, sure, why not. What I never understood, instead of raping the Moss Eisly entrance scene with a butt load of VERY intrusive CGI, why didn't they ever clean up the scene where Han Solo finds Luke on Hoth, and his Taun Taun dies. That was one of the worst puppet stop motion scenes in the whole of the original trilogy. Putting CGI Yoda in ep1 isn't that bad, since the whole movie was CGI, just don't touch him in ep5 and 6, please please please. Even though CGI can fix a few things, I still yearn for the theatrical releases in proper 5.1 and HD, hey, a man can dream, right?
On September 09 2011 18:24 Parcelleus wrote: The following write-up "The Secret History of Star Wars" and the video "The Mythology of Star Wars" explain the real essence and influences of Star Wars. Whether Darth Vader says NOOOOO or not , has nothing to do with what Star Wars is all about.
There is an interesting quote in this around 46:45:
I see my audience, and my audience is me... You know, I make these films for myself more than I make them for anyone else.
Its not quite true to say that George Lucas "hates his fans," but it is true to say that George Lucas is ultimately interested only in how he receives his movies, not anyone else. Thus, if this new "noo!" really makes him have an emotional connection in a way that the previous silence does not, he will add it in, even if the majority of fans thinks otherwise.
I think it also relates to Red Letter Media's criticism that in his earlier works, there were people to tell him "no" when he made a bad decision, whereas now, he is too powerful to criticize outright: he now has more ability to "make these films for [him]self" without people interfering. He also seems to have grown more confident in his ability to appeal to others, though he is ultimately seeking only to appeal to himself.
This may seem obvious, but it is nice to have a quote that neatly summarizes the way he thinks about these movies.
On September 09 2011 06:59 Otolia wrote: Oh look it's this time of the year again : when nerdy hipsters go on rampage because Georges Lucas has modify something in their beloved films.
Let me enlighten you guys : It doesn't matter what you think.
Furthermore, I'd like you to think about the following topics before saying stupid things on topics you don't understand : The sacralization of nerd culture over the years. The fanaticism related to the nerd culture. The impact it has on other people. The impact the Star Wars movies had on you and how a rejuvenation is helping it. The difference between art and entertainment. The rights of artist to modify their own work without any outside pressure.
PS : I find you really outright pathetic, borderline creepy. For me you are the reason mainstream medias still consider us as retarded 12 years old who can't let go their shiny toys.
I somewhat agree, but I can see why people who were alive for the original trilogy would be offended because it was a huge thing during that time that sort of defined an era
but for kids who werent alive for the original trilogy I don't see why they're so upset
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