George Lucas apparently hates his fans. - Page 6
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ladytr0n
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aDd3z
Germany885 Posts
On September 03 2011 02:54 Biff The Understudy wrote: Please watch that. At least the five first minutes. watched the first five minutes: funny because I like the star wars movies so much because there is not really boring sterotype protagonist like in all those other movies he mentioned and that i dont liked.....why cant it be different? okay i understand if you are a fan of the first ones you feel betrayed! And rigthfully so! But I personally kinda like it | ||
MangoTango
United States3670 Posts
On September 03 2011 00:42 Ghostcom wrote: Noooo!!!! Noooooooooooooo!!!!! How can this come to pass?! Good. Goooooooooood. Your hate has made you powerful. | ||
WightyCity
Canada887 Posts
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eviltomahawk
United States11135 Posts
However, my A New Hope doesn't work ![]() | ||
BahamutIIX
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Glurkenspurk
United States1915 Posts
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LegendaryZ
United States1583 Posts
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
nooooooooooooooo | ||
baldgye
United Kingdom1092 Posts
I was hoping that they would relise a collection of the original movies un-'updated' instead looks like I'll have to keep hold of my VHS copy's... | ||
corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
Can he touch Empire Strike Back as he's not the director ? (no wonder it's the best one...) Pretty happy my parents kept their old pre-1997 VHS =) | ||
OscarN
Cape Verde292 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On September 03 2011 03:05 aDd3z wrote: watched the first five minutes: funny because I like the star wars movies so much because there is not really boring sterotype protagonist like in all those other movies he mentioned and that i dont liked.....why cant it be different? okay i understand if you are a fan of the first ones you feel betrayed! And rigthfully so! But I personally kinda like it Well, I'm not going to tell you that your opinion was wrong, and while I enjoyed the newer StarWars films... they are just shallow. You can't watch the Phantom Menace and discover/enforce something about the human condition. The original StarWars movies were so good because you had a bunch of characters changing and growing with each different task; watching these characters overcome life lessons creates a bond much stronger than watching two guys in a perfectly choreographed fight scene. To put it bluntly, there isn't a single character that develops or changes all through Episode 1 and 2. Anakin as a character changes, but it is in a form that is backwards from how people want themselves to change, and it is all overshadowed by the 45 minute lightsaber battle that is filled to the brim with as much shit that can possibly be packed onto the screen at once. Not to say that special effects are bad, just that in most modern films they are used to draw in box office numbers in a way that detracts from what makes a story a good story. Storytelling has been around for a long long time, and it never needed explosions before. And at the very heart of it, that is why people are upset with these changes that are being made to the story. You see Lucas adding in as much special effects in as possible, you see him changing major story aspects (like Han no longer shooting first) that ruins character development, and you see him changing an internal emotional struggle that makes sense to something that is just so... contrived and fake. | ||
Kinetik_Inferno
United States1431 Posts
On September 03 2011 03:19 OscarN wrote: The title is miss-leading IMO, i thought he said in a interview or something thast he hates his fan... its a minor change that shouldnt be like , "omg he hatesus" its his movie, i think its better IMO, but w/e go starwars! Exactly my thoughts. Yes, some people are going to be pissed off at this, but it's not like he's deliberately trying to piss of his fans. He probably just did what he thought was best for the movie itself. | ||
Cadaver!!
Hungary390 Posts
On September 03 2011 03:05 aDd3z wrote: watched the first five minutes: funny because I like the star wars movies so much because there is not really boring sterotype protagonist like in all those other movies he mentioned and that i dont liked.....why cant it be different? okay i understand if you are a fan of the first ones you feel betrayed! And rigthfully so! But I personally kinda like it Boring stereotype, hilarious stuff, man. But you are right, in a way, because they are not boring stereotypes, they have no personalities, at all. In response to the title of the thread: Lucas has fans? I sure as hell know Star Wars has fans, but Lucas? Every SW fan is like: "Dude, just retire, relax on your big pile of money, you did enough unrepairable damage already". | ||
DeepElemBlues
United States5079 Posts
"My name is George Lucas. I am a writer, director, and producer of motion pictures and Chairman of the Board of Lucasfilm Ltd., a multi-faceted entertainment corporation. I am not here today as a writer-director, or as a producer, or as the chairman of a corporation. I've come as a citizen of what I believe to be a great society that is in need of a moral anchor to help define and protect its intellectual and cultural heritage. It is not being protected. The destruction of our film heritage, which is the focus of concern today, is only the tip of the iceberg. American law does not protect our painters, sculptors, recording artists, authors, or filmmakers from having their lifework distorted, and their reputation ruined. If something is not done now to clearly state the moral rights of artists, current and future technologies will alter, mutilate, and destroy for future generations the subtle human truths and highest human feeling that talented individuals within our society have created. A copyright is held in trust by its owner until it ultimately reverts to public domain. American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history. People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society. The preservation of our cultural heritage may not seem to be as politically sensitive an issue as "when life begins" or "when it should be appropriately terminated," but it is important because it goes to the heart of what sets mankind apart. Creative expression is at the core of our humanness. Art is a distinctly human endeavor. We must have respect for it if we are to have any respect for the human race. These current defacements are just the beginning. Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black-and-white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical tastes of the copyright holder. Tommorrow, more advanced technology will be able to replace actors with "fresher faces," or alter dialogue and change the movement of the actor's lips to match. It will soon be possible to create a new "original" negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control. In order to reconstruct old negatives, many archivists have had to go to Eastern bloc countries where American films have been better preserved. In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten. There is nothing to stop American films, records, books, and paintings from being sold to a foreign entity or egotistical gangsters and having them change our cultural heritage to suit their personal taste. I accuse the companies and groups, who say that American law is sufficient, of misleading the Congress and the People for their own economic self-interest. I accuse the corporations, who oppose the moral rights of the artist, of being dishonest and insensitive to American cultural heritage and of being interested only in their quarterly bottom line, and not in the long-term interest of the Nation. The public's interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests. And the proof of that is that even a copyright law only permits the creators and their estate a limited amount of time to enjoy the economic fruits of that work. There are those who say American law is sufficient. That's an outrage! It's not sufficient! If it were sufficient, why would I be here? Why would John Houston have been so studiously ignored when he protested the colorization of "The Maltese Falcon?" Why are films cut up and butchered? Attention should be paid to this question of our soul, and not simply to accounting procedures. Attention should be paid to the interest of those who are yet unborn, who should be able to see this generation as it saw itself, and the past generation as it saw itself. I hope you have the courage to lead America in acknowledging the importance of American art to the human race, and accord the proper protection for the creators of that art--as it is accorded them in much of the rest of the world communities." George Lucas 2011: HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE (hat-tip toplessrobot.com for the speech, not the hues) | ||
Treemonkeys
United States2082 Posts
When it is all said and done and he actually runs out of ideas for new versions he will just top it all off with a "new" uncut/unedited theatrical release for the final milking of the cow and they will line up to buy that too. | ||
marttorn
Norway5211 Posts
edit: something just came to mind. The power glove. It compares well to these changes. Because it's so bad. Aha, this is kind of funny and stupid at the same time. I'll stay far, FAAR away from those blue ray ones. CGI yoda? REALLY? I think that's the biggest change. I just recently watched the special features for the 2nd prequel (where CGI yoda was introduced) and It's clear (at the risk of sounding like a rabid fan who thinks he knows better than Lucas himself) that Lucas doesn't understand what Yoda was all about, and he has waaay too many Yes-men around him. Nobody challenges him, and when he's in the room there seems to be a nervous feeling in the air, and everybody looks scared. That's not really what you want, having one person essentially decide what the entire movie will look like. Yoda, in my view, was supposed to represent the Force, not weapons or wars (wars not make one great!) and the wisdom of the force (i'm such a fucking nerd), and him flailing around like an idiot in the prequels successfully ruined the character. I think I'm just really bitter that all I have atm of the original three masterpieces are the revised editions from the late 90's (v_v) They don't ruin the movies, but it's so vulgar, occasionally theres some very out of place retarded CGI bantha creature. It doesn't fit the movies at all. And that's my biggest gripe (one of them) in the prequels too, SO MUCH is done in pure CGI as opposed to actual real sets and real stunts. For comparison, think of the luke & leia scene in Hope where they have to swing across the chasm. That was a real stunt, and in fact Mark's strap was broken atm (he didn't know that though ![]() Also, if you notice, every single dialogue scene in the prequels they're either walking slowly, stopping by the end, then one of the characters take off (slight variations occasionally) or they're sitting on a couch and one of them stands up by the end. Every single one, I swear. /Rabid star wars fanboy rant OFF edit: oh wait, it was a new CGI yoda in Phantom Menace, not Empire? Well that's fine, that puppet looked like ass anyway. | ||
Xevious
United States2086 Posts
That being said, I don't really like George Lucas. Love his movies/work, but not the person himself. | ||
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