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ladytr0n
Profile Joined October 2010
United States51 Posts
September 02 2011 17:59 GMT
#101
Lucas is a hack. A joke. He ruined the best move series of all time. He is talentless, visionless, and a complete hack.
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aDd3z
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany885 Posts
September 02 2011 18:05 GMT
#102
On September 03 2011 02:54 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 02:50 aDd3z wrote:
thats a pretty bad change
but i like that yoda will be computer-generated in episode one now
but i dont like the old movies (4-6) anyway so i dont really care

Please watch that. At least the five first minutes.

watched the first five minutes: funny because I like the star wars movies so much because there is not really boring sterotype protagonist like in all those other movies he mentioned and that i dont liked.....why cant it be different? okay i understand if you are a fan of the first ones you feel betrayed! And rigthfully so!
But I personally kinda like it
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MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 18:06:16
September 02 2011 18:05 GMT
#103
On September 03 2011 00:42 Ghostcom wrote:
Noooo!!!! Noooooooooooooo!!!!!

How can this come to pass?!


Good. Goooooooooood. Your hate has made you powerful.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
WightyCity
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada887 Posts
September 02 2011 18:07 GMT
#104
i dont like this nooo. why not just replace darth vader with a monkey. same thing
90% watching it 8% talking about it and 2% playing it - sc2
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
September 02 2011 18:08 GMT
#105
It's times like this that I'm glad to own some VHSs of the original trilogy before Lucas did all his remastering stuff.

However, my A New Hope doesn't work
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BahamutIIX
Profile Joined May 2011
23 Posts
September 02 2011 18:09 GMT
#106
I knew there is a reason I kept the old VHS versions of Star Wars.
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
September 02 2011 18:10 GMT
#107
Around the time he decided to make the force unleashed canon I truly began hating him. At least the rest of the EU is awesome. =/
LegendaryZ
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1583 Posts
September 02 2011 18:10 GMT
#108
George Lucas should forever be banned from ever being involved with any of his franchises. Why can't he just sit back, collect money, and be happy?
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
September 02 2011 18:11 GMT
#109
An important distinction: George Lucas doesn't hate his fans, he just doesn't care about them. He cares more about his personal integrity, his own vision, as every artist should. It just so happens that George Lucas is an idiot, and so his integrity drives him to take charge of parts of his movies where he has no actual talent.
"That's not gonna be good for business." "That's not gonna be good for anybody."
Gamegene
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States8308 Posts
September 02 2011 18:12 GMT
#110
I still remember laughing at the end of Revenge Of The Sith along with the rest of the theater.

nooooooooooooooo

Throw on your favorite jacket and you're good to roll. Stroll through the trees and let your miseries go.
baldgye
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom1092 Posts
September 02 2011 18:14 GMT
#111
I don't understand what world he lives in, every change and 'update' he has made to the original movies has resulted in them being worse off and even making them look more dated than they are!

I was hoping that they would relise a collection of the original movies un-'updated' instead looks like I'll have to keep hold of my VHS copy's...
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
September 02 2011 18:17 GMT
#112
My dear god does he hope that by making the old episode worse the recent one won't look as bad or something ?
Can he touch Empire Strike Back as he's not the director ? (no wonder it's the best one...)
Pretty happy my parents kept their old pre-1997 VHS =)
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OscarN
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Cape Verde292 Posts
September 02 2011 18:19 GMT
#113
The title is miss-leading IMO, i thought he said in a interview or something thast he hates his fan... its a minor change that shouldnt be like , "omg he hatesus" its his movie, i think its better IMO, but w/e go starwars!
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
September 02 2011 18:31 GMT
#114
On September 03 2011 03:05 aDd3z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 02:54 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 03 2011 02:50 aDd3z wrote:
thats a pretty bad change
but i like that yoda will be computer-generated in episode one now
but i dont like the old movies (4-6) anyway so i dont really care

Please watch that. At least the five first minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

watched the first five minutes: funny because I like the star wars movies so much because there is not really boring sterotype protagonist like in all those other movies he mentioned and that i dont liked.....why cant it be different? okay i understand if you are a fan of the first ones you feel betrayed! And rigthfully so!
But I personally kinda like it


Well, I'm not going to tell you that your opinion was wrong, and while I enjoyed the newer StarWars films... they are just shallow. You can't watch the Phantom Menace and discover/enforce something about the human condition.

The original StarWars movies were so good because you had a bunch of characters changing and growing with each different task; watching these characters overcome life lessons creates a bond much stronger than watching two guys in a perfectly choreographed fight scene.

To put it bluntly, there isn't a single character that develops or changes all through Episode 1 and 2. Anakin as a character changes, but it is in a form that is backwards from how people want themselves to change, and it is all overshadowed by the 45 minute lightsaber battle that is filled to the brim with as much shit that can possibly be packed onto the screen at once.

Not to say that special effects are bad, just that in most modern films they are used to draw in box office numbers in a way that detracts from what makes a story a good story. Storytelling has been around for a long long time, and it never needed explosions before.

And at the very heart of it, that is why people are upset with these changes that are being made to the story. You see Lucas adding in as much special effects in as possible, you see him changing major story aspects (like Han no longer shooting first) that ruins character development, and you see him changing an internal emotional struggle that makes sense to something that is just so... contrived and fake.
Kinetik_Inferno
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1431 Posts
September 02 2011 18:31 GMT
#115
On September 03 2011 03:19 OscarN wrote:
The title is miss-leading IMO, i thought he said in a interview or something thast he hates his fan... its a minor change that shouldnt be like , "omg he hatesus" its his movie, i think its better IMO, but w/e go starwars!

Exactly my thoughts. Yes, some people are going to be pissed off at this, but it's not like he's deliberately trying to piss of his fans. He probably just did what he thought was best for the movie itself.
Cadaver!!
Profile Joined December 2010
Hungary390 Posts
September 02 2011 18:33 GMT
#116
On September 03 2011 03:05 aDd3z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2011 02:54 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 03 2011 02:50 aDd3z wrote:
thats a pretty bad change
but i like that yoda will be computer-generated in episode one now
but i dont like the old movies (4-6) anyway so i dont really care

Please watch that. At least the five first minutes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FxKtZmQgxrI

watched the first five minutes: funny because I like the star wars movies so much because there is not really boring sterotype protagonist like in all those other movies he mentioned and that i dont liked.....why cant it be different? okay i understand if you are a fan of the first ones you feel betrayed! And rigthfully so!
But I personally kinda like it

Boring stereotype, hilarious stuff, man. But you are right, in a way, because they are not boring stereotypes, they have no personalities, at all.

In response to the title of the thread: Lucas has fans? I sure as hell know Star Wars has fans, but Lucas? Every SW fan is like: "Dude, just retire, relax on your big pile of money, you did enough unrepairable damage already".
I have a folder labeled day9_dailies where I store my horseporn. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
September 02 2011 18:49 GMT
#117
George Lucas, 1988:

"My name is George Lucas. I am a writer, director, and producer of motion pictures and Chairman of the Board of Lucasfilm Ltd., a multi-faceted entertainment corporation.

I am not here today as a writer-director, or as a producer, or as the chairman of a corporation. I've come as a citizen of what I believe to be a great society that is in need of a moral anchor to help define and protect its intellectual and cultural heritage. It is not being protected.

The destruction of our film heritage, which is the focus of concern today, is only the tip of the iceberg. American law does not protect our painters, sculptors, recording artists, authors, or filmmakers from having their lifework distorted, and their reputation ruined. If something is not done now to clearly state the moral rights of artists, current and future technologies will alter, mutilate, and destroy for future generations the subtle human truths and highest human feeling that talented individuals within our society have created.

A copyright is held in trust by its owner until it ultimately reverts to public domain. American works of art belong to the American public; they are part of our cultural history.

People who alter or destroy works of art and our cultural heritage for profit or as an exercise of power are barbarians, and if the laws of the United States continue to condone this behavior, history will surely classify us as a barbaric society. The preservation of our cultural heritage may not seem to be as politically sensitive an issue as "when life begins" or "when it should be appropriately terminated," but it is important because it goes to the heart of what sets mankind apart. Creative expression is at the core of our humanness. Art is a distinctly human endeavor. We must have respect for it if we are to have any respect for the human race.

These current defacements are just the beginning. Today, engineers with their computers can add color to black-and-white movies, change the soundtrack, speed up the pace, and add or subtract material to the philosophical tastes of the copyright holder. Tommorrow, more advanced technology will be able to replace actors with "fresher faces," or alter dialogue and change the movement of the actor's lips to match. It will soon be possible to create a new "original" negative with whatever changes or alterations the copyright holder of the moment desires. The copyright holders, so far, have not been completely diligent in preserving the original negatives of films they control. In order to reconstruct old negatives, many archivists have had to go to Eastern bloc countries where American films have been better preserved.

In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be "replaced" by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.

There is nothing to stop American films, records, books, and paintings from being sold to a foreign entity or egotistical gangsters and having them change our cultural heritage to suit their personal taste.

I accuse the companies and groups, who say that American law is sufficient, of misleading the Congress and the People for their own economic self-interest.

I accuse the corporations, who oppose the moral rights of the artist, of being dishonest and insensitive to American cultural heritage and of being interested only in their quarterly bottom line, and not in the long-term interest of the Nation.

The public's interest is ultimately dominant over all other interests. And the proof of that is that even a copyright law only permits the creators and their estate a limited amount of time to enjoy the economic fruits of that work.

There are those who say American law is sufficient. That's an outrage! It's not sufficient! If it were sufficient, why would I be here? Why would John Houston have been so studiously ignored when he protested the colorization of "The Maltese Falcon?" Why are films cut up and butchered?

Attention should be paid to this question of our soul, and not simply to accounting procedures. Attention should be paid to the interest of those who are yet unborn, who should be able to see this generation as it saw itself, and the past generation as it saw itself.

I hope you have the courage to lead America in acknowledging the importance of American art to the human race, and accord the proper protection for the creators of that art--as it is accorded them in much of the rest of the world communities."


George Lucas 2011:

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUEHUE


(hat-tip toplessrobot.com for the speech, not the hues)
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Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 19:07:36
September 02 2011 19:07 GMT
#118
Lucas actually just has some business sense and is milking star wars as much as humanly possible. You can't really blame him when the "upset" fans are lining up to buy every new version he shits out.

When it is all said and done and he actually runs out of ideas for new versions he will just top it all off with a "new" uncut/unedited theatrical release for the final milking of the cow and they will line up to buy that too.
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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-02 19:28:47
September 02 2011 19:21 GMT
#119
edit: it's official! September 5th this post will be re-released on BLUE RAY FORMAT! Some changes have been made of course, 67% of words will from now on be spelled BACKWARDS! GET PUMPED

edit: something just came to mind. The power glove. It compares well to these changes. Because it's so bad.

Aha, this is kind of funny and stupid at the same time. I'll stay far, FAAR away from those blue ray ones. CGI yoda? REALLY? I think that's the biggest change. I just recently watched the special features for the 2nd prequel (where CGI yoda was introduced) and It's clear (at the risk of sounding like a rabid fan who thinks he knows better than Lucas himself) that Lucas doesn't understand what Yoda was all about, and he has waaay too many Yes-men around him. Nobody challenges him, and when he's in the room there seems to be a nervous feeling in the air, and everybody looks scared. That's not really what you want, having one person essentially decide what the entire movie will look like.

Yoda, in my view, was supposed to represent the Force, not weapons or wars (wars not make one great!) and the wisdom of the force (i'm such a fucking nerd), and him flailing around like an idiot in the prequels successfully ruined the character.

I think I'm just really bitter that all I have atm of the original three masterpieces are the revised editions from the late 90's (v_v)

They don't ruin the movies, but it's so vulgar, occasionally theres some very out of place retarded CGI bantha creature. It doesn't fit the movies at all.

And that's my biggest gripe (one of them) in the prequels too, SO MUCH is done in pure CGI as opposed to actual real sets and real stunts.

For comparison, think of the luke & leia scene in Hope where they have to swing across the chasm. That was a real stunt, and in fact Mark's strap was broken atm (he didn't know that though ) so it was pretty dangerous. I'm not saying scenes need to be dangerous to be good in terms of action, but it just looks and feels much better when it's somewhat real.

Also, if you notice, every single dialogue scene in the prequels they're either walking slowly, stopping by the end, then one of the characters take off (slight variations occasionally) or they're sitting on a couch and one of them stands up by the end. Every single one, I swear.

/Rabid star wars fanboy rant OFF

edit: oh wait, it was a new CGI yoda in Phantom Menace, not Empire? Well that's fine, that puppet looked like ass anyway.
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Xevious
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2086 Posts
September 02 2011 19:23 GMT
#120
I don't really care, it's obviously bad but it's such a fucking overreaction from people.

That being said, I don't really like George Lucas. Love his movies/work, but not the person himself.
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