On September 03 2011 06:03 elmizzt wrote: It's like poetry, it rhymes! You guys just don't understand!
Here is my favorite dialog from the prequel. It deserves an Oscar.
"You are so... beautiful -No you are soooo beautiful -That's because I'm so in love -No, that's because I am so in love with you -So... love has blinded you? -No, that's not exactly what I meant"
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
EDIT: OH MY GOOOOOD WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOUR FAAAACE?
Star Wars already has stupid changes, for example Han Solo kills Greedo off the bat in the original, in the extended edition Greedo fires first and Han retaliates..... Jurrassic Park will be without raptors and the trex next >.<
I get the idea about someone making something worse after you got used to something, but you don't have to watch the blue-ray version. Watch the old versions only. Big deal...
Things like this really reinforce how little of star wars greatness is actually due to George Lucas' vision and how much of it was simply a one-off confluence of coincidence and happenstance.
i'd consider myself a pretty big star wars fan, and i couldn't care less about this
i actually like some of the changes made in new versions, like in the dvd of return of the jedi where hayden christensen portrays anakin skywalker at the end, I thought that was really cool and made perfect sense
On September 03 2011 06:17 wingweaver415 wrote: ....its his movie, his franchise, his way of seeing that moment and how he felt Vader was "feeling" at that time. He probably felt in the original movies Vader didnt express his real emotions thoroughly in episode 3. He still came across as a cold person and Lucas probably never meant to show him in that way.
The real killer for me in the prequel movies was casting Hayden Christenson as Anakin Skywalker. He is so BAD. I think if they wanted someone who looked just as good but acted better, James Franco would have been a better choice.
100% of all movies considered great, have a deeper meaning to them than what is presented.
George Lucas hates his fans? pretty strong oppinion coming from someone who knows nothing about the man.
Hayden Christensen is a good actor, he just got given a shitty script. It's hard to make lines like "You've grown... More beautiful I mean" sound good. Shattered Glass is a much better demonstration of his ability since it has a good script and good direction. If you've seen that then you know that cringe-worthy Anakin Skywalker moments are direction/scripting issues rather than Hayden's inability to act.
That's what I think anyway.
Go check out Shattered Glass. Same well below average acting In my oppinion. He was hired for his looks not his abilities.
On September 03 2011 06:47 Fleebenworth wrote: Things like this really reinforce how little of star wars greatness is actually due to George Lucas' vision and how much of it was simply a one-off confluence of coincidence and happenstance.
No, it's mostly due to the hard work and brilliance of the people who were working with Lucas and told him no repeatedly when Lucas had a terrible idea. Unfortunately, after his success with the first few films, people grew afraid to tell him no, and then you get the prequels and this shit.
On September 03 2011 02:50 aDd3z wrote: thats a pretty bad change but i like that yoda will be computer-generated in episode one now but i dont like the old movies (4-6) anyway so i dont really care
Please watch that. At least the five first minutes.
One of the worst reviews I've ever seen in my life. You would actually use this as your basis for proving a point?
On September 03 2011 00:45 Torenhire wrote: I thought everyone already knew he hated his fans? Haha.
Have you seen any of the fanmade media for Star Wars? Any amateur movie makers doing Star Wars? He always pulls that crap and disallows it forever. Does anyone remember the Star Wars Christmas thing from TV ages ago? He's forever banned that from seeing the light of day as well, despite people loving it.
This doesn't surprise me in the least, lol. :p
I wouldn't say hatred as much as I would say greed and selfishness. A long time ago he actually did something smart, he made a deal with Fox that all merchandising and logos would be owned by him and he would have complete control over any future movies and basically anything to do with starwars. A VERY smart decision by lucas, not getting as much money up front but more money long term and no one actually knew at Fox studios whether the original movie would be a hit.
I honestly think lucas is playing the smart business man in that he doesn't allow profit to be made without his consent and if he straight up doesn't like his "starwars" being used then he removes it. I'd do the same thing if I was him. HOWEVER, that doesn't excuse him for the horrible choices he has made such as Jar Jar in Episode 1 and doing stunts like this by changing the original movies. I think he is a good businessman but I honestly think his creativity has gone down hill ever since Episode 4.
I think some people say the "NO" is only a rumor which may be true, but think back to the "special" editions of the original 3 episodes of Star wars. Did he really have to have an entire scene at the end of Ep. 6 with ewoks singing? Did we need to see the snow monsters face in Ep. 5? Most of the things he added were things the audience loved because they WEREN'T there in the original. Like I said, his creativity has only gotten worse and I don't need to mention Ep. 1 - 3 to prove that.
On September 03 2011 06:18 Shockk wrote: Well that's the point. There is a previous version, and it's better. Vader killing Emperor while thinking in silence = audience can follow his train of thought, sympathize with him, a whole story is told with uttering a single word. Vader screaming "Nooooo" - stereotypical rage response, audience doesn't have to think for themselves, edited scene takes away from total experience.
We have seen SW before, and we've come to respect / like / love it the way it was (depending on level of fan-dom). Some things just don't need editing or "improvement".
The only difference is that now people who would not have been able to understand his train of thought before he threw the emperor over the bridge (ie: the younger generation, new viewers of Star Wars), are now able to see the anguish he was suffering. The end result is the same, except more people can enjoy it. I don't see why people complain about it.
I know in the past I have watched the movie with younger kids and have been asked why Vader did what he did.
Well, I watched them when I was 8 or 9 and I understood fully why Vader did what he did. It just irks me so much. The "noooo" is unnecessary and takes away part of what made that scene so good in the beginning.
On September 03 2011 02:54 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 03 2011 02:50 aDd3z wrote: thats a pretty bad change but i like that yoda will be computer-generated in episode one now but i dont like the old movies (4-6) anyway so i dont really care
One of the worst reviews I've ever seen in my life. You would actually use this as your basis for proving a point?
Thanks for sharing.
You should watch it completely (all the parts). The first minutes are, especially for an introduction, quite bad. However, in the end you'll see he makes excellent points about the disaster that is called the New Trilogy. Basically how most things in the movie (story writing, CGI, dialog, decisions by movie characters) are all extremely flawed. And yes, his voice is irritating.
EPT
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