On September 04 2011 01:37 Deadlyfish wrote: I dont get why this is such a big deal, it's one line in the movie, sure it might be silly, but people are overreacting.
Also, i dont get the hate about Phantom of Menace, i liked it. I thought it had some cool stuff even though the characters were a bit boring. People always think they know better, but they probably dont. Nostalgia is a powerful thing.
Oh, and to that review that constantly complained about plot holes and such in phantom - watch IV V and VI - FULL of plot holes and things that dont make sense, talk about bias O.o People are overrating the early movies soooo much.
You can easily get the original versions on DVD anyways, so there really is no reason to care that much.
I have 1 thing to say to you - medichlorians. But apperantly you know better.
I guess Lucas is just getting older and older and he freaks out :/ still, I have the original version "in my heart" so no "improvements" will change my mind about the best saga in the whole galaxy :D
On September 04 2011 01:37 Deadlyfish wrote: I dont get why this is such a big deal, it's one line in the movie, sure it might be silly, but people are overreacting.
Also, i dont get the hate about Phantom of Menace, i liked it. I thought it had some cool stuff even though the characters were a bit boring. People always think they know better, but they probably dont. Nostalgia is a powerful thing.
Oh, and to that review that constantly complained about plot holes and such in phantom - watch IV V and VI - FULL of plot holes and things that dont make sense, talk about bias O.o People are overrating the early movies soooo much.
You can easily get the original versions on DVD anyways, so there really is no reason to care that much.
i don't get the hate about Phantom of Menace, i liked it
i liked it
liked
-_- definitely won't ask you about movie recommendations.
Wouldn't say I'm a hardcore star wars fan but even I can understand why people hate that movie
- Jar Jar
- A kid piloting a starship
- The mystical force being reduced to a microorganisms
- The kid who played Anakin
- Stale characters. There is not one person who's even 1/4 as cool as Han solo or Darth Vader
- Generally just a very dull plot.
Nostalgia plays no part either, considering this is from my generation. It's just a shit movie.
That sucks man. Why mess with the original in the first place? I've heard the whole "I would have done it in the original if I'd had the technology" in regards to things like replacing real-Yoda but I agree with Simon Pegg when he says he always loved Vader's voiceless self sacrifice. I guess that this subtlety doesn't work in today's world.
On September 04 2011 01:37 Deadlyfish wrote: I dont get why this is such a big deal, it's one line in the movie, sure it might be silly, but people are overreacting.
Also, i dont get the hate about Phantom of Menace, i liked it. I thought it had some cool stuff even though the characters were a bit boring. People always think they know better, but they probably dont. Nostalgia is a powerful thing.
Oh, and to that review that constantly complained about plot holes and such in phantom - watch IV V and VI - FULL of plot holes and things that dont make sense, talk about bias O.o People are overrating the early movies soooo much.
You can easily get the original versions on DVD anyways, so there really is no reason to care that much.
i don't get the hate about Phantom of Menace, i liked it
i liked it
liked
-_- definitely won't ask you about movie recommendations.
Wouldn't say I'm a hardcore star wars fan but even I can understand why people hate that movie
- Jar Jar
- A kid piloting a starship
- The mystical force being reduced to a microorganisms
- The kid who played Anakin
- Stale characters. There is not one person who's even 1/4 as cool as Han solo or Darth Vader
- Generally just a very dull plot.
Nostalgia plays no part either, considering this is from my generation. It's just a shit movie.
-My mom's favorite character is Jar Jar lol dunno why. C-3PO has always pissed me off way more than Jar Jar.
-¯\_(ツ)_/¯
-Ignored it lol. Didn't happen.
-All kid actors are terrible, and I don't know how the movie could have been possibly made without a kid playing Anakin, lol
-I really liked Gui Gon, and Darth Maul was cool too
-Kind of agree with you there. The final battle was cool imo, and I found the scene with Gui Gon's death to be more emotionally moving than the iconic "I am your father scene", probably because of spoilers, but I'm not sure.
I watched that movie at least 10 times before I was 8, so I was kind of perplexed when I found out everyone seemed to hate it.
Why would anyone care about some single change in some re-release of a movie? Do you not still have your original? Do not have that memory of the original? I just can't figure out how anyone could care about this.
George Lucas made the original Star Wars films right? So he made what you guys seem to worship so much? So this is another part of this Star Wars world that baffles me, how can you be mad at the guy who created it? Why is he not allowed to change whatever he wants for re-releases? Is there no loyalty or appreciation for his original creation? By creating that which you are obsessed over, has he not earned any sort of right to make "mistakes" or do "stupid" things?
And finally, the craziness that is this anger over the prequels. Why does the creation of these prequels have to diminish whatever you watched in the final 3 episodes? Why does it bother you at all? Can you not just simply ignore them?
I never really found Star Wars to be that compelling of a movie series so maybe I'll just never understand the Star Wars fans.
On September 03 2011 02:54 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 03 2011 02:50 aDd3z wrote: thats a pretty bad change but i like that yoda will be computer-generated in episode one now but i dont like the old movies (4-6) anyway so i dont really care
Please watch that. At least the five first minutes.
One of the worst reviews I've ever seen in my life. You would actually use this as your basis for proving a point?
Thanks for sharing.
One great and funny review for such a fuckup that is episode one. Perfectly sums it up.
Personally, I kind of feel sorry for George Lucas. He hasn't directed a good film since 1977. He hasn't produced a good film since 1989. He has lost most if not all of his credibility as a Hollywood great. I guess he still has a lot of money.
On September 04 2011 02:46 Befree wrote: Why would anyone care about some single change in some re-release of a movie? Do you not still have your original? Do not have that memory of the original? I just can't figure out how anyone could care about this.
This change happens to be to a pivotal scene from the original trilogy. For me its my favorite scene.
But yeah, I do have the originals on VHS, and I do have the memory, thankfully he cant take that. But a lot of fans would like DVD or Blu-ray quality versions of them, since VHS is quite archaic, but every version released since the 1997 VHS has been altered versions of the film.
Improving sound and picture quality is fine. Altering scenes is just dumb. You dont go into an art gallery and change a painting, and its even worse cause none of the changes Lucas makes are good.
George Lucas made the original Star Wars films right? So he made what you guys seem to worship so much? So this is another part of this Star Wars world that baffles me, how can you be mad at the guy who created it? Why is he not allowed to change whatever he wants for re-releases? Is there no loyalty or appreciation for his original creation? By creating that which you are obsessed over, has he not earned any sort of right to make "mistakes" or do "stupid" things?
Lucas 30 years ago is a completely different person from Lucas now. Just have to watch interviews with him then, or watch some of his earlier films, to see why.
Its just sad to see a talented filmmaker become so corporate and out of touch with his fans, is all.
And finally, the craziness that is this anger over the prequels. Why does the creation of these prequels have to diminish whatever you watched in the final 3 episodes? Why does it bother you at all? Can you not just simply ignore them?
On September 04 2011 01:37 Deadlyfish wrote: I dont get why this is such a big deal, it's one line in the movie, sure it might be silly, but people are overreacting.
Also, i dont get the hate about Phantom of Menace, i liked it. I thought it had some cool stuff even though the characters were a bit boring. People always think they know better, but they probably dont. Nostalgia is a powerful thing.
Oh, and to that review that constantly complained about plot holes and such in phantom - watch IV V and VI - FULL of plot holes and things that dont make sense, talk about bias O.o People are overrating the early movies soooo much.
You can easily get the original versions on DVD anyways, so there really is no reason to care that much.
The problem with the Phantom (of?) Menace isn't plot holes. It's that there is no story. There is nothing for the viewer to engage with. The viewer doesn't even know what is SUPPOSED to engage them. They aren't told what is happening or why it matters. The most exciting part of the film is a heavily choreographed sword fight between 3 people we don't care about who are fighting for a reason we do not understand and don't give a fuck about. The rest of the film is head beatingly dull bullshit about the politics and trade of space organisations that also are not explained.
Watch the bit in the Plinkett review (that's presumably the review you meant) where he asks who the main character of the Phantom Menace is. You'll see what I mean when I say there's nothing for the viewer to care about.
Man I don't even like Star Wars that much. But the Phantom Menace is fucking bad.
On September 04 2011 02:13 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On September 04 2011 01:37 Deadlyfish wrote: I dont get why this is such a big deal, it's one line in the movie, sure it might be silly, but people are overreacting.
Also, i dont get the hate about Phantom of Menace, i liked it. I thought it had some cool stuff even though the characters were a bit boring. People always think they know better, but they probably dont. Nostalgia is a powerful thing.
Oh, and to that review that constantly complained about plot holes and such in phantom - watch IV V and VI - FULL of plot holes and things that dont make sense, talk about bias O.o People are overrating the early movies soooo much.
You can easily get the original versions on DVD anyways, so there really is no reason to care that much.
i don't get the hate about Phantom of Menace, i liked it
i liked it
liked
-_- definitely won't ask you about movie recommendations.
Wouldn't say I'm a hardcore star wars fan but even I can understand why people hate that movie
- Jar Jar
- A kid piloting a starship
- The mystical force being reduced to a microorganisms
- The kid who played Anakin
- Stale characters. There is not one person who's even 1/4 as cool as Han solo or Darth Vader
- Generally just a very dull plot.
Nostalgia plays no part either, considering this is from my generation. It's just a shit movie.
-My mom's favorite character is Jar Jar lol dunno why. C-3PO has always pissed me off way more than Jar Jar.
-¯\_(ツ)_/¯
-Ignored it lol. Didn't happen.
-All kid actors are terrible, and I don't know how the movie could have been possibly made without a kid playing Anakin, lol
-I really liked Gui Gon, and Darth Maul was cool too
-Kind of agree with you there. The final battle was cool imo, and I found the scene with Gui Gon's death to be more emotionally moving than the iconic "I am your father scene", probably because of spoilers, but I'm not sure.
I watched that movie at least 10 times before I was 8, so I was kind of perplexed when I found out everyone seemed to hate it.
What was cool about Darth Maul. He is essentially the main villain apart from a hologram, he was on all the posters. So, who was he? What were his motivations? Why is he helping the Sith? If you could describe his character in 3 words what would they be? And you can't use the words 'double sided lightsaber' 'red and black' 'spikes' or 'black cloak'. Oh and no referencing additional fiction like comics or novels.
On September 04 2011 05:27 Spitfire wrote:What prequels?
George Lucas was planning to make some prequels but tragically died in 1995 so they were never made. It's a shame because they would have been fantastic.
Well, Darth Maul is not so bad, he had no senseless dialogues because he had no dialogue at all and he did kill boring Qui-Gon Gin, that's a good thing !
Regarding the Plinkett review; That review (and his review of the two other prequels) are SO good, they put words to everybody's criticism of the prequels in such an amazing way, and they still manage to be funny and uphold Plinkett's persona. I always knew I really hated the prequels, but I wasn't able to properly explain why except for "bad acting, corny and weird" before watching those reviews. Defo worth checking out, unless you're going into them with a defensive mindset towards the prequels.
All I want is the films released on Blu-ray in the ORIGINAL form -- no Greedo shooting first, no added in Jabba scene in Episdode 4, no young anakin ghost at the end and no 'NOOOO!!' in the Return of the Jedi.
Seriously. Lucas should put his effort into making new films instead of tinkering with films fans have grown attached to as they are in their original form.
EPT
