George Lucas apparently hates his fans. - Page 13
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Hokay
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aksfjh
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Kuja
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e4e5nf3
Canada599 Posts
On September 03 2011 06:32 Okiesmokie wrote: The only difference is that now people who would not have been able to understand his train of thought before he threw the emperor over the bridge (ie: the younger generation, new viewers of Star Wars), are now able to see the anguish he was suffering. The end result is the same, except more people can enjoy it. I don't see why people complain about it. I know in the past I have watched the movie with younger kids and have been asked why Vader did what he did. In Luke's training scene in ESB where he goes inside the cave and fights a fake Vader, chops off his head and it is revealed that Luke actually cut his own head! This is one of the most symbolic scenes in the Star Wars franchise and as a kid I was perplexed at what I had just seen because at that age I took scenes literally and this scene just made no sense at the time. Thank God Lucas hasn't destroyed the greatness of this scene by having someone explain what had just happened. I think back on it and it seems as though, like the Harry Potter movies, the series was going to get more mature and more serious as it went on (unfortunately it didn't). | ||
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Whitewing
United States7483 Posts
On September 03 2011 14:24 Hokay wrote: The original scene lacked emotions. This one is better. No it didn't, you could feel the emotions like they were tangible. Now it's just dumbed down so they just tell you what he's feeling, rather than setting the scene so you feel it yourself. You could feel how conflicted he was, watching his son being slowly and painfully killed in front of him, but at the same time feeling loyalty to the master he has served for so long, and to the dark side. It just kills his character to scream it though. | ||
Lenet
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On September 03 2011 14:54 Whitewing wrote: No it didn't, you could feel the emotions like they were tangible. Now it's just dumbed down so they just tell you what he's feeling, rather than setting the scene so you feel it yourself. You could feel how conflicted he was, watching his son being slowly and painfully killed in front of him, but at the same time feeling loyalty to the master he has served for so long, and to the dark side. It just kills his character to scream it though. It was also a scene in which the guy was trying to convince the younger one to kill his own father... and then ends up torturing his own son in front of him... of course he was going betray his own master... | ||
Vindicare605
United States16071 Posts
On September 03 2011 00:43 SlimeBagly wrote: Haha, that's really goofy. Still a minor offense compared to making Greedo shoot first. Agreed. After editing in Greedo shooting first, anything else Lucas does ceases to amaze me. | ||
Alvalanker
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pandaminion
United States270 Posts
I kinda knew after seeing Jar Jar. | ||
Mjolnir
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On September 03 2011 14:24 Hokay wrote: The original scene lacked emotions. This one is better. One of the hallmarks of good writing is that you don't spell out what's going on for the audience so they can a) put it together themselves and ideally b) they feel it more. This change is a lame attempt to: - make up for the debacle of episode 3s "Nooooo!" scene by, - giving some continuity to the character's actions, exclamation, voice - showing the internal conflict we already knew was there It was more powerful when he suffered in silence and then acted. Now it's emo/pathetic as all fuck. | ||
Sceptor87
Canada266 Posts
Now if you'll all excuse me I'm going to go into the corner in a drunken stupor, curl up into the fetal position, and cry. Cry at the image of George Lucas fucking raping Darth Vader. Hold me. Please. User was warned for this post | ||
FrostedMiniWheats
United States30730 Posts
Adding this in was unnecessary, isn't consistent with the character, and frankly he sounds retarded. | ||
typingit
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Ruyguy
Canada988 Posts
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p0lyph0ny
United States217 Posts
On September 03 2011 14:24 Hokay wrote: The original scene lacked emotions. This one is better. I hope this is a troll | ||
W2
United States1177 Posts
edit: here is the original and re-made ending scene in one clip. | ||
Biff The Understudy
France7888 Posts
On September 03 2011 07:14 Romance_us wrote: One of the worst reviews I've ever seen in my life. You would actually use this as your basis for proving a point? Thanks for sharing. Well, I'll leave it with two options: 1- You didn't watch the whole review. You watched like, one minute. It's 70 minutes long. So, watch the whole thing, and if you still think it's a bad basis for proving my point, cross this first option and jump to second possibility. 2- You didn't understand the review. Because it's the best, the most flawlessly devastating critic I have seen or read in my life. You just can't defend the prequels after watching it, because it proves in a very simple way that it's a movie with a story that makes no sense at all, with awful character design, and with no cinematographic creativity whatsoever, with no suspense, with no tension, and without any redeeming quality. | ||
rbx270j
Canada540 Posts
On September 03 2011 17:39 Biff The Understudy wrote: Well, I'll leave it with two options: 1- You didn't watch the whole review. You watched like, one minute. It's 70 minutes long. So, watch the whole thing, and if you still think it's a bad basis for proving my point, cross this first option and jump to second possibility. 2- You didn't understand the review. Because it's the best, the most flawlessly devastating critic I have seen or read in my life. You just can't defend the prequels after watching it, because it proves in a very simple way that it's a movie with a story that makes no sense at all, with awful character design, and with no cinematographic creativity whatsoever, with no suspense, with no tension, and without any redeeming quality. Yes, RLM's reviews of 1 & 2 are spot on. And on the thread topic, if and when I have children, I expect to not expose them to Star Wars unless I can attain versions of this stuff without all the stuff added over a decade after release. :/ | ||
PanN
United States2828 Posts
On September 03 2011 17:07 Sceptor87 wrote: I hope he has a heart attack, and it ends up being the most painful event ever experienced by a human being, because he fucking deserves it. This fat, triple chinned, useless, pathetic, piece of shit hack is hell bent on ruining my, and many other people's, childhood. I swear to any deity you might of might not believe in he is fucking possessed. It isn't natural for a human being to cause this much suffering. Even Adolf had his limits, what with him loving dogs. George Lucas is worse than Hitler. Now if you'll all excuse me I'm going to go into the corner in a drunken stupor, curl up into the fetal position, and cry. Cry at the image of George Lucas fucking raping Darth Vader. Hold me. Please. This wasn't even slightly amusing, comedy is definitely not your strong point. In fact, its pretty saddening and pathetic =/ | ||
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