Edit: Text updated throughout the day, as well as certain links and images.
Tropical Storm Irene blew into Canada on Monday before finally falling apart and becoming a simple low pressure system. Its legacy will not be massive damage from high winds or a flooded tri-state area but rather extensive and severe inland flooding, inundating a large swath from Virginia to Philadelphia, up through central New Jersey and parts of the Hudson Valley, all the way to northern Vermont. Economic loss estimates have topped $5 bn for New York City with city shuttered for much of Sunday. The NY Times quoted one professor who placed a national economic damage estimate of $40 bn for Irene and its aftermath. CNN quoted an insurance analyst who estimated $10 bn property damage nationwide.
Philadelphia faced rising waters on both the Schuylkill to its west and the Delaware River on its eastern bank, with waters rising to levels not seen for over a century. Over 300 odd roadways are impassable in New Jersey, with Governor Christie warning that the Delaware, Passaic, and (especially) Ramapo Rivers may not have crested yet. Large sections Hoboken remains under water as residents wait for the waters to recede. New York counties have also experienced record floods, with rescues being conducted in Westchester County on north. Flooding in Vermont has been more severe than expected with over 250 roadways under water, several covered bridges washed away, and neighborhoods and towns facing disastrous conditions for residents' property. Already one woman was swept by the floodwaters to her death while watching the rising torrent with her boyfriend.
Power remains out for over 3 million residents of the states affected strongest by Irene. Already in North Carolina, over 100k have had power restored as of Monday morning. New Jersey's PSE&G estimates that it could take up to a week to restore power to all ~800k residents still without power. Almost 700k remain powerless in Connecticut, with another 750k in the dark in New York state. Southeastern Pennsylvania had power outages affecting 300k residents as of Monday morning. And Maryland's original 800k residents facing powerlessness should begin to be able to turn on the lights as Monday progresses.
According to the AP, confirmed dead total 40 across 11 states as of Tuesday. Other people have been reported to be missing or washed away, with fates to be determined.
For those wondering why the storm was so severe in certain areas while leaving other parts relatively unscathed, this NY Times articles describes how meteorologists got it, in part, wrong. Basically, the expected "eye wall replacement" cycle common to storms like this one did not complete, resulting in relatively calmer conditions immediately south of the center of the storm. And with the center passing directly over New York City, after the storm's front had moved north, the expected continuance of wind and rain never quite materialized.
Hurricane Irene is now a tropical storm (the first to make landfall in NYC since 1893) that continues to work its way north in New England before reaching Canada. NOAA reports its maxed sustained winds at 45 mph, with some higher gusts, as of 8 PM Sunday evening. Irene finally has picked up speed, heading NNE at 26 mph (after 2 days of moving between 13-16 mph). After lashing North Carolina and Virginia yesterday, Irene made a second landfall in southern New Jersey, near Little Egg Inlet, at around 5:35 AM Sunday morning. Irene landed near Long Beach on Long Island at around 10 AM on Sunday. The storm cell is not collapsing, or falling apart, but transitioning into a hybrid low pressure system that will still pack tropical storm force winds.
The death toll from Irene stands at around 20 people so far, with casualties reported from at least six states.
Flooding is widespread in some coastal areas but has been more severe inland, with swollen rivers inundating towns in VA, PA, NJ, NY, CT, and VT. Between 10-14 inches of rain fell in parts of North Carolina, with similar totals likely to have hit New Jersey as well. Hopefully, many of the 2.3 million residents who were issued mandatory evacuation orders heeded them. Philadelphia is currently suffering from some severe flooding, with water as high as 15 ft in certain areas, approaching its all-time record of 17 ft in 1869. Vermont is also suffering from serious flooding along riverbanks.
Millions of people have lost power in the tristate area - more than 500k in Long Island according to LIPA, almost 1 million in New Jersey according to PSE&G, over 70K in NYC and ~50k in Westchester according to ConEd, and almost 700k in Connecticut according to CL&P. No power has been lost in Manhattan, again according to conEd. Statewide in New York, 750k total people are in the dark. Around 3 million other residents are without power from states including North Carolina, Virginia, Delaware, Maryland, Pennsylvania, and into New Jersey, bringing the total so far to over 4 million Americans. Power in New Jersey could take 5-7 days to restore. In Philadelphia, 21k residents were without power Sunday afternoon, with another 300k in the surrounding SE PA area. 800k Maryland residents are also currently without power as of Sunday. Tens of thousands have lost power in Rhode Island, and outages have occurred in Vermont as well with all the flooding.
The evacuation order for NYC was lifted at 3 PM on Sunday, with the mayor urging people to return at 6 PM. The MTA does not appear to have suffered serious damage to its underwater tunnels and is set to reopen at 6 AM on Monday morning, according to the AP. Government offices and financial markets will open on Monday. Airports in the tristate area are also set to reopen Monday.
New York City is trying out crowd-sourcing to let residents report damage. Feel free to do so here - NYC Severe Weather
conEdison's interactive map for power outages so far - ConEd Outage Info
Also today: a 2.9 earthquake stuck New York state near Altamont. Governor Cuomo has ordered officials to assess any infrastructure damage in the area.
deeshoo's live report from the Upper West Side of Manhattan -
Just woke up at 11am. Can still hear the wind but I don't feel it (winds are coming from the south west, I live on the northern side of the building) I feel like it was supposed to stay longer in NY, but otherwise the storm's pretty much gone. Sad I missed the eyewall passing overhead, but other than that, things are pretty uneventful now, thankfully
edit: lawl sun is coming out. people walking in streets with umbrellas, but otherwise not really giving a damn.
On August 28 2011 18:12 deeshoo wrote: Live Update from Upper West Side Manhattan, 5:10 EST edge of the storm's finally here, holy hell that's a lot of wind. it's straight up howling outside my window. not as much rain as i thought there would be, but i imagine it'll only get worse. stay safe everybody
On August 28 2011 11:20 deeshoo wrote: 22:16 EST Live from Upper West Side Manhattan Ladies and gentlemen, we have lightning. Is that supposed to be typical of a hurricane or is this just some random summer thunderstorm that happens to be in Irene's path?
On August 28 2011 09:00 deeshoo wrote: Live 19:58 EST from Upper West Side Manhattan, NYC Starting to pour outside, winds picking up to a constant 12mph (source http://www.weather.com/weather/today/New York NY 10027). Few random cars going places on Broadway, hope they're just taxies taking people home :\
On August 28 2011 05:52 deeshoo wrote: Live 16:55 EST from Upper West Side Manhattan, NYC NYC (read: me) is pretty much turtled up now. I'm in my dorm room watching the window (which has a north facing view of Broadway on the right and the Hudson on the left), sticking my hand out every so often to check the climate. Nobody's out on the sidewalk, a few cars on the streets. Still no rain, but it's still super overcast (no surprise). Wind's picked up a little, pretty constant breeze of what I'm guessing is 10-15 mph. Just bought a lot of food in anticipation, local restaurants and markets are going to continue to be open for the rest of the day, but they're all closed for tomorrow. Praying for electricitiy and internet as the evening goes on, I want to watch MLG RA had a floor meeting last night explaining emergency procedures if worse came to worst, where we would take shelter in the auditorium for the rest of the night/day.
On August 28 2011 03:55 deeshoo wrote: 14:54 EST Really overcast sky, pretty humid out. Slight sprinkle here and there but no winds at all yet. NYC is turtling hard though, big push coming from Irene soon
Hurricane Irene, a Category 1 hurricane, landed during the 7 AM hour EDT in North Carolina, close to Cape Lookout. The eye is expected to reach New York City by Sunday morning, with tropical storm winds arriving Saturday night, as it heads north with a current speed of ~16 mph. Heavy rains are being reported along with strong storm surges and gusts higher than its Category 1 status, as high as 115 mph along the coast. Rainfall totals of 6-8 inches are expected from the Chesapeake Bay, north along the NJ-PA border, north to Vermont, and all points east along the coast with 8-10 inches possible for the Delaware River Bay, eastern Chesapeake Bay, and central New Jersey. The storm's maximum sustained winds are ~80 mph according to CNN at the moment, but its danger has always been more due to its size and slow movement speed (causing widespread rain, wind, and storm surges) rather than the particularly strong winds that define Category 2 and above hurricanes. After suffering a partial eye wall replacement, Irene lost some of its potency and is not expected to strengthen again even as it passes over water instead of land.
Tornado watches have been going off from North Carolina north to southern New York. Current areas with tornado watches include many central and eastern counties in New Jersey as well as New York, Long Island, and Westchester and Rockland counties north of the city. North Carolina Emergency Management reports that at least 3 tornadoes have touched down in southeastern NC. Another tornado made landfall near Virginia Beach as well this morning. And tonight, a tornado was reported to have landed in Lewes, Delaware, according to the DE governor. Other tornadoes might have landed in Maryland and New Jersey already as well.
Power has been knocked out for over 2 million residents of Virginia and over 1 million in North Carolina so far. Consolidated Edison in NYC has announced that it might shut down power facilities in low-lying areas around the tristate area if salt water threatens to flood the grid. NYC officials have announced that Manhattan, below Chambers St, might lose power if ConEd determines that the flooding there is severe enough.
There have been at least 9 deaths reported so far with 4 casualties in NC. A surfer off a VA beach has been killed, a young boy was crushed when his room was struck by a falling tree, and at least 2 other Virginians have perished so far. Blood bank shortages are already expected for states including and north of North Carolina.
According to the New York Times - FEMA: 2/3 of fleet along eastern coast; 18 disaster-response teams as well. The Coast Guard: more than 20 rescue helicopters and reconnaissance planes ready to take off. The Defense Department: 18 more helicopters set aside for response. The National Guard: about 101,000 members available to respond. The American Red Cross: more than 200 emergency response vehicles and tens of thousands of ready-to-eat meals in areas due to be hit by the storm.
Also from The Weather Channel is this - formerly self-updated - image of Irene's potential paths and forecast wind speeds -
I am beginning to appreciate Hurricane Irene's potential for causing widespread damage and destruction across the eastern seaboard of the United States. As of now, Irene is forecasted to plod along the coast after it smashes into the Outer Banks of NC. It is classified as a large and powerful Category 1 hurricane as of Saturday morning, expected to diminish to a tropical storm status in after hitting New York City. Irene's slow speed of ~14 mph so far is well below the usual 30 mph a storm of this size normally has, increasing the potential for flooding, property damage, and other inconveniences. Hurricane Irene's tropical storm-force wind field was already larger than Hurricane Katrina's in 2005 on Friday. According to the NY Times, over 55 million people could be affected in the eastern United States. The Weather Channel has added an 'extreme' threat level category for the storm stretching from NC into New England. Ripped from its website -
- Computer models are currently trending toward a forecast solution of rare potency for portions of the Northeast. - Irene will be a serious and multi-hazard threat for the major metropolitan areas of the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast. This includes Norfolk, Washington, D.C., Baltimore, Philadelphia, New York City, Hartford, and Boston. This hurricane has the potential to produce flooding rains, high winds, downed trees (on houses, cars, power lines) and widespread power outages. Significant impacts along the immediate coast include high waves, surge and beach erosion. - For North Carolina, the main impacts of damaging winds and storm surge flooding will be confined to the far eastern portions of the state. In addition to the Outer Banks, this potentially includes Morehead City and Atlantic Beach. - Timing: Irene will make its closest approach to North Carolina late Friday night through Saturday. Northeast U.S. impacts would be Saturday night through early Monday.
Mandatory evacuations have been issued up and down the eastern coast of the nation - over 2.3 million residents so far, according to the AP. Connecticut, Delaware, Maine Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island and Virginia have issued states of emergency ahead of the storm with more states to do the same, potentially, as the weekend progresses. Hurricane warnings have been issued by the National Weather Service for NC, VA, MD, DE, and NJ; hurricane watches have been issued for NY, CT, RI, and MA. The US Naval Station at Norfolk has ordered ships out to sea to better ride out the storm than at harbor. Governor Andrew Cuomo of NY has announced that the MTA will shut down entirely as of noon on Saturday, along with other regional commuter transit systems. Amtrak has cancelled train service from Friday - Sunday south of Washington, DC. The dedication ceremony for the new Rev. The Massachusetts Bay Transportation Authority has suspended all service for Sunday. Martin Luther King Jr. Memorial along the National Park Mall in Washington, DC, has been postponed indefinitely after originally being scheduled for Sunday. Construction sites have been ordered to stop in the tristate area, with inspectors checking that heavy equipment is secured, and work on naval ships in Virginia has also been suspended.
JFK International Airport, LaGuardia Airport, and Newark Liberty International Airport have stopped receiving arriving flights as of noon Saturday and closed down. JetBlue, United and other airlines have wiped out over thousands of flights for this weekend alone. Check with any airline you or others might be using to see if rescheduling is possible. Expect delays in air travel throughout the nation, to varying degrees, due to grounding of planes and the fact that the east coast is the most heavily trafficked section.
All in all, this will be a serious meteorological event for the eastern seaboard of the US. Property damage has already been estimated to top $1 BN when all is said and done. The fact that it will likely be, as of now, a tropical storm by the time it reaches New Jersey and NYC will still mean sustained winds and rain that the area has not seen for many years. The last major hurricane this far north was in 1944 but much farther east, out to sea in the Atlantic. With the eye of the storm potentially crawling up the NJ shore, the area may not be as lucky this time around. The shutdown of the entire MTA in New York as of noon on Saturday is also unprecedented, but completely necessary. The 39 mph threshold for winds that the service cannot operate adequately or safely seems low, but then again this could be a once-in-a-century(lifetime) occurrence.
Hopefully, officials will have over-prepared and the storm will not be as dire as forecasts indicate. I wish anyone potentially affected the best of luck and encourage people to remember those in the most need during such, potentially, trying times.
This is self-updating image from NOAA of the nation -
Google has a Crisis Response division with some useful and instructive interactive maps -
This thing delayed my cruise by one day to bermuda (celebrity X) now the cruise before us will now get one day extra in bermuda while we get less... but the cruise said since it is a 2 1/2 day journey from NYC to bermuda, they would quicken pace to get us there in 1 1/2 days, thereby getting us ON bermuda on the same date, so its all good
yeah, chris christie ordered a sate of emergency. its pretty intense right now.
MLG Raleigh is a fair distance inland, there shouldn't be severe flooding. Maybe power outages if Irene makes landfall directly on NC but chances are equal that it'll follow the stream out into the Atlantic.
On August 26 2011 10:07 FlaShFTW wrote: This thing delayed my cruise by one day to bermuda (celebrity X) now the cruise before us will now get one day extra in bermuda while we get less... but the cruise said since it is a 2 1/2 day journey from NYC to bermuda, they would quicken pace to get us there in 1 1/2 days, thereby getting us ON bermuda on the same date, so its all good
yeah, chris christie ordered a sate of emergency. its pretty intense right now.
My friends are stuck in the Dominican Republic :| They tried to convince me to come down on a weekend surfing trip. They've been stuck there for over a week now. They tell me there wasn't any super severe damage at least and they were ok.
Do you have a evacuation route planned SafeAsCheese? I don't really know what building codes are like in Virginia but if it's a cat2 I wouldn't want you to stick around to see it :|
I live right on the beach in NJ, we are making plans to board up the house and evacuate and all that. The grocery stores around here have been PACKED since yesterday.
I was worried abou it a couple of days ago since I was pretty far into that cone (Live on GA coast). Happy to see it head away though, looks like at most we will be getting some bands coming in and alot of rain.
Well I'm certainly fucked. I'm right between DC and Baltimore hurricanes always knock my power out ( and scare the scrap out of me). I"ll catch up on some reading this weekend and make sure to charge my psp before hand.
On August 26 2011 11:00 Chargelot wrote: Remember the damage caused by the earthquake?
It'll be like that. Just more wet.
Do you live on the eastern seaboard? Everytime we have a major hurricane thousands of dollars of damage per country occurs easily.
EDIT: Also every time people don't evacuate someone dies without fail.
On August 26 2011 11:00 Chargelot wrote: Remember the damage caused by the earthquake?
It'll be like that. Just more wet.
the measures NYC is taking seem quiet extreme. Makes me feel slightly uneasy. But excited.
Yeah, I'm from Brooklyn, NYC, so if the OP is too city-centric, that would be why. I agree that so far, city officials are practically freaking out like only city officials can. Dealing with a metropolitan area of over 8 million people who cannot be easily evacuated even with a slow-moving disaster like Irene is never easy. Like I said, hopefully they will have overworried about it all but we'll see.
On August 26 2011 13:11 Muir wrote: Being from Houston and dealing with hurricanes nearly every year this doesn't really scare me, although i do wish everyone in its path GL.
Hell, I was hoping WE would get some rain. According to the weatherman, Irene is just going to divert hot air towards us and lead to yet another record-breaking hot day at 107 F.
Also, you guys should probably evacuate before officials give the warning, else you'll be stuck in the world's worst traffic jam for half a day trying to get to a hotel / relatives out of town. TRUST ME, if you leave late, you WILL regret it.
Glad my area of MA is inland enough that I'm probably going to only see tropical storms, but it might ruin my plans for Barcraft on Sunday :< This makes me very sad.
Simple emergency measures people should take: Have FOOD AND WATER ON HAND: Flooding can really mess up city water - Stock up on some bottled water or just put a few gallons in some kind of container, in case you lose tap water access. Have food available that you can eat without needing electricity or other utilities to make.
Hurricane Isabel (several years back) knocked out my electricity for over a week. It's not just about what you need to do to survive, but take some preparations so you aren't miserable in such an event, lol. I was reading >1 novel per day for that week. Couldn't go to work, couldn't internet, heh.
On August 26 2011 12:47 kOre wrote: Holy shit ... I really hope everyone at MLG this weekend will be okay! Be safe everyone and put your safety ahead of the gaming!
I edited the OP with a new forecast map, updated links, and other info. It's a Cat 2 atm, but expected to quickly reachieve Cat 3 status before reaching the Outer Banks. I hope everyone will be ok!
the only place that needs evacuating is the outher banks, because it will flood there and be a little dangerous. Other than that I would probably just stay where I was.
Thats not true, norfolk va is evacuating today as well. In fact, areas as far west as Richmond are still under a tropical storm warning - meaning we will get tropical storm force winds.
I live in richmond which is only 35 miles from the earthquake earlier this week as well.... I sense impending doom on several fronts.... :p
On August 26 2011 21:50 FeUerFlieGe wrote: the only place that needs evacuating is the outher banks, because it will flood there and be a little dangerous. Other than that I would probably just stay where I was.
If the latest forecasts that the hurricane will rapidly decrease in intensity after passing over the Outer Banks holds true, then maybe you're right. No mandatory evacuations have been issued beyond NC if I'm not mistaken. Better safe than sorry is usually a helpful policy, however.
Hah..all the people who have never experienced a hurricane.
I am from Fla and will be back there long term come winter. I have ridden out more than a few hurricanes as a result..here is what you need to know.
Cat 1 - Ride it out and go Surfing, this is otherwise known as a good excuse to throw a hurricane party while those who don't know better panic.
Cat 2 - Board up glass and such, then ride it out and go surfing until it starts getting too windy to stand on your board..See above.
Low end Cat 3 - Surf until it starts getting close then gets your ass inside. While this one is able to be ridden out so long as you aren't directly on the beach, it does require precaution. Have some fun with it, but be safe and don't be stupid. You had better have your house effectively boarded up (Assuming you don't have quality aluminum storm shutters), and have your vehicles protected, Expect yard ornamentation to be destroyed.
High End Cat 3 - Given these can easily go cat 4 right before landfall, if you aren't at least 100miles inland, get out of town. This is the point where a hurricane ceases being a joke and will cause very serious damage. Safe bet with these is to go ahead and leave town. There will be power outages and no internet for at least several days anyhow, may as well hole up in a hotel up the road and play Sc2 on their net.
Cat 4+ If you attempt to ride it out, you are a complete moron. Even hardened locals who aren't idiots know to high tail it out of town. Don't be stupid, don't think you can ride it out and don't expect the government to come rescue your stupid ass.
There is your handy dandy guide for what to do with various categories of hurricanes. Written by someone who has ridden out quite a few and will likely ride out plenty more.
edit: Almost forgot - The What you need to Ride out a hurricane list.
1) Portable Power Generator 2) Lots of bottled water, figure 1 gallon per person per day minimum. 3) Butane stove/Gas grill for cooking. Stick with the grill, you can cook literally breakfast, lunch and dinner on a grill with ease. 4) Lots of canned food and vegetables that can stand without refrigeration. (Corn, Poratoes, Roots, and other high starch, high energy foods). 5) ATV - Unless you have a 4wd, your car is going to likely be useless. 6) Alcohol - Lots of it..Because it isn't a party otherwise and women get crazy freaky with lots of booze after being cooped up a couple days..plus that fear thing works to your advantage as well.
everybody stay safe! i live near boston and as far north as i am from virginia we being told it's the worst storm to come in over 30 years or something... schools which are supposed to start this upcoming monday hae already sent out emails saying that there likely wont be school... and my town is expecting to lose power for a week.... damn what to do without sc2/tl for a whole week? HOW DO PEOPLE LIVE LIKE THIS?
On August 27 2011 00:10 Dekoth wrote: Hah..all the people who have never experienced a hurricane.
I am from Fla and will be back there long term come winter. I have ridden out more than a few hurricanes as a result..here is what you need to know.
Cat 1 - Ride it out and go Surfing, this is otherwise known as a good excuse to throw a hurricane party while those who don't know better panic.
Cat 2 - Board up glass and such, then ride it out and go surfing until it starts getting too windy to stand on your board..See above.
Low end Cat 3 - Surf until it starts getting close then gets your ass inside. While this one is able to be ridden out so long as you aren't directly on the beach, it does require precaution. Have some fun with it, but be safe and don't be stupid. You had better have your house effectively boarded up (Assuming you don't have quality aluminum storm shutters), and have your vehicles protected, Expect yard ornamentation to be destroyed.
High End Cat 3 - Given these can easily go cat 4 right before landfall, if you aren't at least 100miles inland, get out of town. This is the point where a hurricane ceases being a joke and will cause very serious damage. Safe bet with these is to go ahead and leave town. There will be power outages and no internet for at least several days anyhow, may as well hole up in a hotel up the road and play Sc2 on their net.
Cat 4+ If you attempt to ride it out, you are a complete moron. Even hardened locals who aren't idiots know to high tail it out of town. Don't be stupid, don't think you can ride it out and don't expect the government to come rescue your stupid ass.
There is your handy dandy guide for what to do with various categories of hurricanes. Written by someone who has ridden out quite a few and will likely ride out plenty more.
Not sure advising people to go surfing during a small Cat 3 'cane is a good idea...
On August 27 2011 00:18 Dekoth wrote: Not during..until it gets close. There is a big difference.
Yep, people in Richmond, VA, or Philadelphia, PA, thank you kindly for letting them know that it's ok to surf before Category 3 storms. The eastern seaboard isn't one huge peninsula like Florida.
Or is surfing your euphemism for not taking local officials and weathermen too seriously?
Edit: Updated OP again, added image of potential flooding severity.
On August 27 2011 00:18 Dekoth wrote: Not during..until it gets close. There is a big difference.
Yep, people in Richmond, VA, or Philadelphia, PA, thank you kindly for letting them know that it's ok to surf before Category 3 storms. The eastern seaboard isn't one huge peninsula like Florida.
Or is surfing your euphemism for not taking local officials and weathermen too seriously?
Edit: Updated OP again, added image of potential flooding severity.
Ever experienced one first hand? Nope? Didn't think so.
I was very clear of when you can get away with it and when it becomes outright dangerous. I speak from personal experience multiple times. Being a peninsula does not change a thing..coast line is coast line.
On August 27 2011 02:02 r.Evo wrote: A buddy of mine has a flight booked to the USA. Estimated arrival: This sunday afternoon in Philadelphia.
This could get interesting. =S
Why doesn't he cancel it or put it ahead by a week? He can't NOT know about Hurricane Irene!
'cause she is like "Hurrdurr, this can't be this bad and nothing will happen to me anyway and if I delay it now my schedule is fucked cause my semester is starting soon."
Durp. :/
(Personally I assume/hope that flight will be cancelled/delayed/rerouted.)
On August 27 2011 00:14 RyanRushia wrote: everybody stay safe! i live near boston and as far north as i am from virginia we being told it's the worst storm to come in over 30 years or something... schools which are supposed to start this upcoming monday hae already sent out emails saying that there likely wont be school... and my town is expecting to lose power for a week.... damn what to do without sc2/tl for a whole week? HOW DO PEOPLE LIVE LIKE THIS?
I'm pretty sure I live a few minutes from you Ryan... I really hope the 1 week without power is a gross exaggeration @_@... Even a 3 days without power would make me feel edgy.
Debating whether or not I should tell my family to prepare for this properly. Never seen a hurricane ever in my life.
On August 27 2011 01:13 JWD wrote: In Europe with a flight in to JFK arriving Saturday evening...fingers crossed, but I think I might be boned.
Thanks for the info OP -- trying to keep up to the minute.
Be prepared for a very scary landing at JFK by the way in any sort of turbulance. I hate landing at that airport.
Very Steep Turn 100 ft off the ground + 40 mph winds and rain = Close eyes and hope to hear the wheels hit the ground.
Also, Irene is a horrible name for a hurricane. The name Irene reminds me of a divorced middle aged woman.
Seems pretty appropriate, considering a woman who may be reaching that time of her life while being bitterly divorced would probably cause just as much damage.
Humorous note: Global warming is real!
More serious note: Seems like a lot of people in NYC are taking the hurricane very seriously - our hardware stores are pretty much empty of emergency supplies and so on.
the eye of the storm should pass right over my town on Long Island.
if it does, i'm so stoked..i know its dangerous to be caught in it after the eye passes, but i definitely plan on taking pictures..very rare to have a full-fledged hurricane in this part of the country.
I'm not sure enough people are taking this seriously enough from some of the comments. I wouldn't be fucking with mother nature, she doesn't give a shit. I do hope you are right, but I have a feeling that this won't be a joke come Monday. Good luck to anyone affected.
Eh....I have a feeling the worst the storm will do is cause some power outages. It's hitting the major cities on the east coast so of course its getting major hype. If it was only hitting southern states like most hurricanes it wouldn't be getting nearly as much coverage -_-. But we'll see.
I have a flight to JFK airport scheduled to land Sunday around 3pm. Is there any word yet on how air traffic is dealing with this? Like are flights in the more southern states getting canceled atm?
On August 27 2011 00:18 Dekoth wrote: Not during..until it gets close. There is a big difference.
Yep, people in Richmond, VA, or Philadelphia, PA, thank you kindly for letting them know that it's ok to surf before Category 3 storms. The eastern seaboard isn't one huge peninsula like Florida.
Or is surfing your euphemism for not taking local officials and weathermen too seriously?
Edit: Updated OP again, added image of potential flooding severity.
Ever experienced one first hand? Nope? Didn't think so.
I was very clear of when you can get away with it and when it becomes outright dangerous. I speak from personal experience multiple times. Being a peninsula does not change a thing..coast line is coast line.
Wow, you still don't understand the point of this thread. I spent numerous summers in Florida with family, experiencing more hurricanes than needed. Regardless, here's the TL thread for your 'surfing tips' - surfing anyone?
"Mayor Bloomberg just ordered a/b 250,000 New Yorkers to leave their homes. Ignoring it is a misdemeanor. Hard to get my head around this."
What?
That is true. Mandatory evacuations have now been issued for those New Yorkers living in what's being designated as Zone A - low lying areas like Coney Island, Jamaica Bay, the Rockaways, Battery Park City, the Financial District, Red Hook, and parts of Staten Island. The MTA will shut down definitively at some point tomorrow. And bridges will close if winds are recorded at above 60 mph for more than a 'short period' of time.
On August 27 2011 03:30 mengsk83 wrote: I have a flight to JFK airport scheduled to land Sunday around 3pm. Is there any word yet on how air traffic is dealing with this? Like are flights in the more southern states getting canceled atm?
I would check with the airline today and tomorrow to see if the flight hasn't been cancelled. The airline should offer rescheduling options ideally.
Edit: Updated OP with some flight info, updated evacuation orders, and other info.
Jeez, based on the path projection in the OP it'll just miss me here in Nova Scotia. We usually get the tail ends of hurricanes but they've done some serious damage in the past. I remember when my family first moved into this house we had 3 very thick trees in our backyard fall towards our house. Thank god they weren't that tall.
I hope that the TL'ers are luckier than most (because damage is bound to happen on that path).
I was on vacation in South Carolina for the past few days. It's lucky that I left yesterday so I miss out on the areas most likely to be affected by the storm. My heart goes out to anyone who might be affected by the hurricane in the coming days.
I literally moved into my dorm room as an incoming freshman at William and mary a week ago. After orientation and 2 days of classes, we're supposed to evacuate campus.... I am very sad
I've spent all morning / early afternoon assisting stores in my company evacuating their site and backing up their data...hope it doesn't turn out to be as bad as it's starting to look from the amount of stuff I've had to go through this morning. Stay safe, everyone.
On August 26 2011 13:11 Muir wrote: Being from Houston and dealing with hurricanes nearly every year this doesn't really scare me, although i do wish everyone in its path GL.
Hell, I was hoping WE would get some rain. According to the weatherman, Irene is just going to divert hot air towards us and lead to yet another record-breaking hot day at 107 F.
Also, you guys should probably evacuate before officials give the warning, else you'll be stuck in the world's worst traffic jam for half a day trying to get to a hotel / relatives out of town. TRUST ME, if you leave late, you WILL regret it.
On August 27 2011 04:44 NemesysTV wrote: Anyone know if i should evacuate? I live in New York in the Elmhurst area
Based on NYC's zoning system for flooding-related disasters, you should be ok for storms below a Category 2 hurricane. If you live north of the Grand Central, I think that's they highway that defines the boundary, you might want to take more precautions.
On August 27 2011 00:18 Dekoth wrote: Not during..until it gets close. There is a big difference.
Yep, people in Richmond, VA, or Philadelphia, PA, thank you kindly for letting them know that it's ok to surf before Category 3 storms. The eastern seaboard isn't one huge peninsula like Florida.
Or is surfing your euphemism for not taking local officials and weathermen too seriously?
Edit: Updated OP again, added image of potential flooding severity.
Ever experienced one first hand? Nope? Didn't think so.
I was very clear of when you can get away with it and when it becomes outright dangerous. I speak from personal experience multiple times. Being a peninsula does not change a thing..coast line is coast line.
Wow, you still don't understand the point of this thread. I spent numerous summers in Florida with family, experiencing more hurricanes than needed. Regardless, here's the TL thread for your 'surfing tips' - surfing anyone?
"Mayor Bloomberg just ordered a/b 250,000 New Yorkers to leave their homes. Ignoring it is a misdemeanor. Hard to get my head around this."
What?
That is true. Mandatory evacuations have now been issued for those New Yorkers living in what's being designated as Zone A - low lying areas like Coney Island, Jamaica Bay, the Rockaways, Battery Park City, the Financial District, Red Hook, and parts of Staten Island. The MTA will shut down definitively at some point tomorrow. And bridges will close if winds are recorded at above 60 mph for more than a 'short period' of time.
On August 27 2011 03:30 mengsk83 wrote: I have a flight to JFK airport scheduled to land Sunday around 3pm. Is there any word yet on how air traffic is dealing with this? Like are flights in the more southern states getting canceled atm?
I would check with the airline today and tomorrow to see if the flight hasn't been cancelled. The airline should offer rescheduling options ideally.
Edit: Updated OP with some flight info, updated evacuation orders, and other info.
I do, and I was pointing out in my own way that people are entirely over reacting. The Sustained winds on this are 100mph and dropping as the recent trend. Unless it suddenly jumps to 150mph this isn't anything more than an excuse to throw a hurricane party. People are freaking out over nothing.
The Worst it will do is some significant flooding due to its slow speed.
On August 27 2011 04:44 NemesysTV wrote: Anyone know if i should evacuate? I live in New York in the Elmhurst area
Based on NYC's zoning system for flooding-related disasters, you should be ok for storms below a Category 2 hurricane. If you live north of the Grand Central, I think that's they highway that defines the boundary, you might want to take more precautions.
On August 27 2011 04:44 NemesysTV wrote: Anyone know if i should evacuate? I live in New York in the Elmhurst area
Based on NYC's zoning system for flooding-related disasters, you should be ok for storms below a Category 2 hurricane. If you live north of the Grand Central, I think that's they highway that defines the boundary, you might want to take more precautions.
Thanks relieves me a little bit more
Updated OP with a link to the NY Times map of the NYC Evacuation Zones -
On August 27 2011 04:44 NemesysTV wrote: Anyone know if i should evacuate? I live in New York in the Elmhurst area
Based on NYC's zoning system for flooding-related disasters, you should be ok for storms below a Category 2 hurricane. If you live north of the Grand Central, I think that's they highway that defines the boundary, you might want to take more precautions.
Thanks relieves me a little bit more
Updated OP with a link to the NY Times map of the NYC Evacuation Zones -
Ive spent extensive time in Florida. People in Florida in hurricane areas build their houses on stilts and have built in storm shutters and all of these things planned out from the start.
Up here in new England, I know people that have their house less than 40 ft from the water and when storms like this come around they wind up with a living room full of water and power is out for a few days up to a few weeks.
Well, just got back from the store to get supplies for power outages. Pretty much all gallon jugs of water are gone, tried three grocery stores, ended up with 2 jugs of distilled lol... then stopped at CVS to get a prescription, and found a whole aisle of them (water jugs) almost untouched, so I loaded up.
I'm in central MD, so we won't get hit head on from the current path estimations, just from its left side... They are making a way bigger deal out of this than what it actually is (knock on wood), it is already less than 85mph and has yet to pass South Carolina, though flooding is always a concern.
A hurricane party does sound fun though Dekoth (Even if it will be far less awesome than my last, which was located in the pic below) + Show Spoiler +
On August 27 2011 06:52 krndandaman wrote: ... my parents aren't preparing for anything and sky looks bright and sunny. Can't believe a storm is coming.
It's crazy. Like 100 years ago we would have no radar or anything, so you'd have no idea that a storm was coming. Here we know about it a week in advance, and we all talk about it and see it coming. Back then it'd just be like sunny... sunny... sunny... OHGOD HURRICANE out of nowhere.
On August 27 2011 06:52 krndandaman wrote: I live in Long Island. Will I be fine?
I saw part of a news conference with Suffolk County officials who were ordering evacuations for places like Islip and other low lying towns. It depends on what part of LI your parents are at - if they're away from the coast, they have a better chance. Then again, the eye is still expected to pass over Long Island so the whole island could get battered (my Bklyn included).
Ill be honest it doesnt seem like -most- people north of virginia have much to worry about. The storm is much worse than anything people in the tri-state area are used to having, but weathermen and news stations like to hype things up a ton (like, ive heard on the radio that people are saying this is the storm of the century - its NOT, nowhere near)
Id say at most there will be flooding in coastal towns and power might go out for a few days. Its nothing to ignore, but I wouldn't expect to see houses blowing away like the stations are claiming.
If your looking for non-sensationalist weather reporting just check www.weather.gov
I heard all that's happening is the eye is coming within 5 miles of land in new york area... I'm pretty certain it's just going to just be heavy rain..
OP could maybe add some of the good news from this recent Weather Underground source (http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1902). Rather than expecting Irene to strengthen to a category 3 upon landfall, it is now expected to remain a category 2, and further diminish in strength farther up the coast to a category 1.
But, the danger of Irene was always more about the size of the storm (which affects, among other things, the sheer quantity of rainfall; and how much the ocean is disturbed as a result/how big the storm surge is) than about its strength. Flooding is still expected. But we can now expect much less wind damage, which is really saying something.
This hurricane is as bad as the earthquake that the northeast just had (not very bad), and equally overhyped. There might be some flooding and the power will get knocked out. You will be hot without a/c, bored without electronics, and you will desire a warm meal and shower, but that's about it.
On August 27 2011 09:07 BlackJack wrote: This hurricane is as bad as the earthquake that the northeast just had (not very bad), and equally overhyped. There might be some flooding and the power will get knocked out. You will be hot without a/c, bored without electronics, and you will desire a warm meal and shower, but that's about it.
That's because EG just released a countdown website, counting down till Irene makes landfall and is releasing a mp3 of past hurricanes every few hours till it does.
On August 27 2011 08:04 jakechen wrote: OP could maybe add some of the good news from this recent Weather Underground source (http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1902). Rather than expecting Irene to strengthen to a category 3 upon landfall, it is now expected to remain a category 2, and further diminish in strength farther up the coast to a category 1.
Updated the bit about the hurricane's projected strength as that's been true since this afternoon. According to some projections, it will be a tropical storm by the time it reaches DE and before it hits the Tri-State area - all good news.
On August 27 2011 09:07 BlackJack wrote: This hurricane is as bad as the earthquake that the northeast just had (not very bad), and equally overhyped. There might be some flooding and the power will get knocked out. You will be hot without a/c, bored without electronics, and you will desire a warm meal and shower, but that's about it.
Hurricanes and earthquakes are two different types of natural disasters. The 5.9 earlier this week was very mild indeed, but that does not mean that this hurricane will simply be a bad thunderstorm. either. Dismissing Hurricane Irene's seriousness is as foolish as overhyping its potential for wind and flooding damage.
On August 27 2011 09:41 micronesia wrote: So, let's say the hurricane hits a bit harder than expected. What are some things to do during the brunt of it if
a) the power isn't out b) the power is out
Just sitting in a chair listening to it pass by seems very boring.
a) Watch the news; it's a good way to see what's happening without getting wet, no doubt there will be dumb weathermen in rubber boots trying to stand up in the wind which is always a funny sight to see.
Make sure everything is charged that can be charged, just in-case the power goes out.
b) Just listening to the hurricane is actually kinda creepy, especially if you have a fireplace you hear a very eerie howl as the wind batters your house.
Playing board games\card games by candlelight or flashlight is always fun as well as playing things like DS, PSP, or other battery operated systems.
sorry about the hurricane everyone, if I lived over there I would swim out and beat it's ass but unfortunately for everyone I am stuck on the west coast.
On August 27 2011 09:41 micronesia wrote: So, let's say the hurricane hits a bit harder than expected. What are some things to do during the brunt of it if
b) the power is out
Just sitting in a chair listening to it pass by seems very boring.
I decided to make a list
1.) practice kickboxing
2.) redecorate
3.) shoot off fireworks into the storm
4.) make up a new language
5.) loot random stores
6.) go door to door selling bibles for 200 a pop
7.) put on a fashion show for yourself or friends
8.) same but a tea party instead of a fashion show
9.) freestyle rapping
10.) use substances to make your mind have a better time
On August 27 2011 09:41 micronesia wrote: So, let's say the hurricane hits a bit harder than expected. What are some things to do during the brunt of it if
a) the power isn't out b) the power is out
Just sitting in a chair listening to it pass by seems very boring.
In Florida it gets really hot and sweaty because there's no a/c or electric fans and the humidity is really high. A great feeling is to go out the day after the hurricane when it's no longer raining and sit on the porch and read a good book. You get an amazing breeze that is slightly misty and plenty of light so you don't have to read with a flashlight. Feels good man.
On August 27 2011 09:54 travis wrote: sorry about the hurricane everyone, if I lived over there I would swim out and beat it's ass but unfortunately for everyone I am stuck on the west coast.
On August 27 2011 09:41 micronesia wrote: So, let's say the hurricane hits a bit harder than expected. What are some things to do during the brunt of it if
b) the power is out
Just sitting in a chair listening to it pass by seems very boring.
I decided to make a list
1.) practice kickboxing
2.) redecorate
3.) shoot off fireworks into the storm
4.) make up a new language
5.) loot random stores
6.) go door to door selling bibles for 200 a pop
7.) put on a fashion show for yourself or friends
8.) same but a tea party instead of a fashion show
9.) freestyle rapping
10.) use substances to make your mind have a better time
I was supposed to fly back to Newark from LA tomorrow but now it's cancelled, and the soonest flight is next freaking Thursday -_-.
Hoping to fly out to Pittsburgh or Buffalo maybe on Sunday/Monday and drive back.. Any ideas on possible driving conditions/weather impacts on those cities?
On August 27 2011 09:54 travis wrote: sorry about the hurricane everyone, if I lived over there I would swim out and beat it's ass but unfortunately for everyone I am stuck on the west coast.
On August 27 2011 09:41 micronesia wrote: So, let's say the hurricane hits a bit harder than expected. What are some things to do during the brunt of it if
b) the power is out
Just sitting in a chair listening to it pass by seems very boring.
I decided to make a list
1.) practice kickboxing
2.) redecorate
3.) shoot off fireworks into the storm
4.) make up a new language
5.) loot random stores
6.) go door to door selling bibles for 200 a pop
7.) put on a fashion show for yourself or friends
8.) same but a tea party instead of a fashion show
9.) freestyle rapping
10.) use substances to make your mind have a better time
travis wins the thread.
I 2nd that notion! (and happy birthday)
Im on the LI (Selden) and Im not bothered at all by this lil weather. Ok som rain..... Some wind...... just dont go out side and dont shoot your self when power dies. Then go out side after the storm passed and yell out "GG!"
On August 26 2011 09:57 Xivsa wrote: I am beginning to appreciate Hurricane Irene's potential for causing widespread damage and destruction across the eastern seaboard of the United States.
Am I high or does this not seem to be a bit weird to anyone?
On August 26 2011 09:57 Xivsa wrote: I am beginning to appreciate Hurricane Irene's potential for causing widespread damage and destruction across the eastern seaboard of the United States.
Am I high or does this not seem to be a bit weird to anyone?
On August 27 2011 10:41 Jaso wrote: Hoping to fly out to Pittsburgh or Buffalo maybe on Sunday/Monday and drive back.. Any ideas on possible driving conditions/weather impacts on those cities?
I think the weather should be fine in Buffalo and Pittsburgh, but flights might be delayed or tickets hard to come by. Driving from there to Newark doesn't sound so cheap though.
No but seriously what are the odds I die in this thing? Seems like its going to get kinda nasty
I hope there are no deaths. But considering Irene should be a tropical storm when it passes over LI, I want to believe that it won't be cataclysmic or anything close to that. Lot of wind, rain, flooding, and storm surges. If power goes out, or roads close, or phone systems get overwhelmed - such things should clear up within a day or two ideally.
On August 27 2011 11:02 macmann wrote: So is this thing going to be to NY what Katrina was to NO?
Nowhere close. Katrina was a Category 3 when it hit New Orleans. Irene is expected to be a tropical storm by the time it reaches Delaware and remain at that strength, if not less, as it reaches NYC.
this is when hurricane katrina was predicted by scientists in 2005. its 2011 now people, technology has gotten better and more accurate.
When governments send out emergency evacuation, you better listen to them. Last time people doubted the reality and never listened, hope people will this time around.
this is when hurricane katrina was predicted by scientists in 2005. its 2011 now people, technology has gotten better and more accurate.
When governments send out emergency evacuation, you better listen to them. Last time people doubted the reality and never listened, hope people will this time around.
You only close peoples minds when you fear monger like that. There's no reason to make any comparisons between Irene and Katrina. Irene is a dangerous storm, as any hurricane is, but it will be nothing like Katrina.
this is when hurricane katrina was predicted by scientists in 2005. its 2011 now people, technology has gotten better and more accurate.
When governments send out emergency evacuation, you better listen to them. Last time people doubted the reality and never listened, hope people will this time around.
You only close peoples minds when you fear monger like that. There's no reason to make any comparisons between Irene and Katrina. Irene is a dangerous storm, as any hurricane is, but it will be nothing like Katrina.
I'm not sure what you mean by it will be nothing like "Katrina". All Katrina did was, destroy everything and destroy the already destroyed things repeatedly. (overkill is the word..) But Irene has enough power to destroy whats on its path once which is all it matters. The expected damage is to be higher from Irene compared to Katrina simply because it's planned to hit highly populated area of NY.
I am beginning to appreciate Hurricane Irene's potential for causing widespread damage and destruction across the eastern seaboard of the United States.
Wut.
I'll believe that you don't what you're saying in English, as it is not your native language. I don't think the hurricane will cause much damage (so I hope), nor do I see why you would want it to (in the chance you knew exactly what you were saying when you wrote it).
this is when hurricane katrina was predicted by scientists in 2005. its 2011 now people, technology has gotten better and more accurate.
When governments send out emergency evacuation, you better listen to them. Last time people doubted the reality and never listened, hope people will this time around.
You only close peoples minds when you fear monger like that. There's no reason to make any comparisons between Irene and Katrina. Irene is a dangerous storm, as any hurricane is, but it will be nothing like Katrina.
I'm not sure what you mean by it will be nothing like "Katrina". All Katrina did was, destroy everything and destroy the already destroyed things repeatedly. (overkill is the word..) But Irene has enough power to destroy whats on its path once which is all it matters. The expected damage is to be higher from Irene compared to Katrina simply because it's planned to hit highly populated area of NY.
hence the immediate evacuation.
Katrina caused massive flooding due to levee failure and sent a 28 ft wall of water into the Mississippi coast. Irene MAY cause more monetary damage due to the much larger population density, but the absolute devastation that occurred on the gulf coast will not be repeated.
This is the kind of devastation that Irene will not cause.
I am beginning to appreciate Hurricane Irene's potential for causing widespread damage and destruction across the eastern seaboard of the United States.
Wut.
I'll believe that you don't what you're saying in English, as it is not your native language. I don't think the hurricane will cause much damage (so I hope), nor do I see why you would want it to (in the chance you knew exactly what you were saying when you wrote it).
Xivsa is using the English language perfectly. You can look up the definition of "appreciate" if you don't believe me.
this is when hurricane katrina was predicted by scientists in 2005. its 2011 now people, technology has gotten better and more accurate.
When governments send out emergency evacuation, you better listen to them. Last time people doubted the reality and never listened, hope people will this time around.
The sheer stupidity in this post is baffling.
Katrina Cat 4, Strong cat 3 on landfall with 125+mph sustained winds. Extreme destruction, extreme tidal surge due to being a direct hit and a series of complete failures of the LA government to properly prepare, evacuate and maintain the levee's.
Irene - Weak Cat 2, 100mph or less sustained winds on current trends. Only real threat is flooding due to extremely heavy rainfall. No direct strike, no extreme storm surge...
There is no comparison. The Evacuations are due to areas being below floodplain and it being easier, safer and more sanitary to deal with without a ton of people in the way. Your post is nothing but ill informed FUD.
The most ridiculous thing here in NYC is really how people absolutely cleared the shelves of water, food, generators, etc. You'd think they were preparing for a nuclear holocaust or something with the crap they're stockpiling... Biggest overreaction ever.
this is when hurricane katrina was predicted by scientists in 2005. its 2011 now people, technology has gotten better and more accurate.
When governments send out emergency evacuation, you better listen to them. Last time people doubted the reality and never listened, hope people will this time around.
You only close peoples minds when you fear monger like that. There's no reason to make any comparisons between Irene and Katrina. Irene is a dangerous storm, as any hurricane is, but it will be nothing like Katrina.
I'm not sure what you mean by it will be nothing like "Katrina". All Katrina did was, destroy everything and destroy the already destroyed things repeatedly. (overkill is the word..) But Irene has enough power to destroy whats on its path once which is all it matters. The expected damage is to be higher from Irene compared to Katrina simply because it's planned to hit highly populated area of NY.
hence the immediate evacuation.
Oh come on..Katrina was so bad because the levees broke. This storm isnt even anywhere near as powerful as Katrina anyway lol..
I hope everyone in Raleigh and those further North stay safe. It seems now that the worst that will happen on Raleigh is it'll get a little wet and wind up to 40 mph. Worst they can expect is some power outages. So just be safe. Us West Coasters are watching and praying for you.
My parents live in Morehead City, which is directly in the path. Not sure if they evacuated (they aren't that close to the beach), but it's still pretty scary.
On August 27 2011 13:18 LegendaryZ wrote: The most ridiculous thing here in NYC is really how people absolutely cleared the shelves of water, food, generators, etc. You'd think they were preparing for a nuclear holocaust or something with the crap they're stockpiling... Biggest overreaction ever.
I bet that if you owned a store/grocery you'd appreciate a ton the overreaction.
On August 27 2011 13:18 LegendaryZ wrote: The most ridiculous thing here in NYC is really how people absolutely cleared the shelves of water, food, generators, etc. You'd think they were preparing for a nuclear holocaust or something with the crap they're stockpiling... Biggest overreaction ever.
It's impossible to know if people are overreacting just because shelves are empty. People need supplies and the northeast has a ton of people. The shelves being empty is completely normal.
Welp, my flight from Reykjavik to NYC is almost definitely canceled. Deciding between another day or two in Amsterdam, visiting Reykjavic for a bit during my now-unexpectedly-long layover, or making totally different travel plans (e.g. hop a train to London).
Wow I kept seeing things about this and thinking that some info about some old hurricane had come around. Hasn't there already been a hurricane named irene?
On August 27 2011 17:22 Roffles wrote: Just weakened to a Cat 1. Shouldn't be all that bad.
Yeh, just a big rain cloud now with a lil gust here and there (well, so is a cat. 2). Dropped ever since it got into the north waters. I expect it to be downgraded to a tropical depression in another 12-15 hours or so.
I live in North Carolina and the storm has been going for hours and the wind is strong as hell outside and my power/internet hasn't even budged all night long. Some places are supposed to have outages but nothing to bad so far.
On August 27 2011 20:18 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: It will be a category 1 when it hits New York , i think they are blowing this thing out of all proportion and it will be a storm in a teacup.
Depending on the time it gets to NY that could cause problems though. NYC has a low elevation above sea level, combined with winds that's dangerous. I have family and friends on long island and about 1/4 of the southern coastline has been evacuated for this reason...
Not to downplay the whole storm, but if people on the Bahamas who have nowhere to hide can weather a category 3/4 hurricane just fine I'm sure that most people in the US will be okay in a category 1 storm.
On August 27 2011 20:18 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: It will be a category 1 when it hits New York , i think they are blowing this thing out of all proportion and it will be a storm in a teacup.
If the forecasts hold, it should be a tropical storm by the time the eye passes over New York state.
Updated the OP with a new intro, edits to the text, and a replacement image from NOAA. Eileen is a prettier name, btw, than Irene imo.
For those worried about MLG players, streams etc. It should be fine, the storm looks like it will only touch Raleigh. EDIT: The first circle is Cat 1 winds, the second is "tropical storm" levels.
On August 27 2011 13:18 LegendaryZ wrote: The most ridiculous thing here in NYC is really how people absolutely cleared the shelves of water, food, generators, etc. You'd think they were preparing for a nuclear holocaust or something with the crap they're stockpiling... Biggest overreaction ever.
It's impossible to know if people are overreacting just because shelves are empty. People need supplies and the northeast has a ton of people. The shelves being empty is completely normal.
No, every shelf containing non-perishable food and water being empty is not completely normal... People running across the aisle with 30 cereal boxes in their cart is not normal. There's no reason to go overboard with shopping. The stores are going to be open again on Monday and it'll be back to business as usual.
Then again, what IS normal here is peoples' tendency to overreact every single time bad news hits so I suppose I'm not really surprised.
starting to rain here in nyc.. hope they really overhyped this and are tying try to show they're prepared this time after the complete disaster the last blizzard
Here in Hampton Roads(Norfolk, Virginia Beach, Suffolk ect.) we're having some pretty strong and constant winds. We lost power here at my house(suffolk) around 6:30 this morning. But it recently turned back on. Lots and Lots of rain. Other than that nothing to scary yet.
On August 27 2011 20:18 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: It will be a category 1 when it hits New York , i think they are blowing this thing out of all proportion and it will be a storm in a teacup.
Depending on the time it gets to NY that could cause problems though. NYC has a low elevation above sea level, combined with winds that's dangerous. I have family and friends on long island and about 1/4 of the southern coastline has been evacuated for this reason...
Yeah I'm about to evacuate in about an hour. Barely anyone is listening, though... Most people I know are just staying in their homes. Honestly it's really unnecessary, I wouldn't go if I didn't already promise to stay with someone else :|
On August 27 2011 13:18 LegendaryZ wrote: The most ridiculous thing here in NYC is really how people absolutely cleared the shelves of water, food, generators, etc. You'd think they were preparing for a nuclear holocaust or something with the crap they're stockpiling... Biggest overreaction ever.
It's impossible to know if people are overreacting just because shelves are empty. People need supplies and the northeast has a ton of people. The shelves being empty is completely normal.
No, every shelf containing non-perishable food and water being empty is not completely normal... People running across the aisle with 30 cereal boxes in their cart is not normal. There's no reason to go overboard with shopping. The stores are going to be open again on Monday and it'll be back to business as usual.
Then again, what IS normal here is peoples' tendency to overreact every single time bad news hits so I suppose I'm not really surprised.
It's as if everyone believes the sky is falling, meh.
From Huskysc's facebook: Hurricane Irene so far as left the venue untouched. It has however, dont terrible terrible damage to my hair. Best wishes to everyone during all of this!
It's not going to even be a hurricane when it hits NY, I'm pretty sure this exact thing happened 11 or 12 years ago. We didn't even get school cancelled, it was just a really rainy two days. I feel like the media is just blowing it out of proportion for ratings and website traffic. The whole empty store shelves thing seems somewhat silly. But who knows, I could be way off.
Power is out for 200k people in North Carolina atm, with some outages in VA as well. Damage overall doesn't seem so bad as wind speeds are barely a Category 1. The rain and storm surge damage (i.e. flooding) could take longer to assess.
On August 27 2011 23:52 Scap wrote: It's not going to even be a hurricane when it hits NY, I'm pretty sure this exact thing happened 11 or 12 years ago. We didn't even get school cancelled, it was just a really rainy two days. I feel like the media is just blowing it out of proportion for ratings and website traffic. The whole empty store shelves thing seems somewhat silly. But who knows, I could be way off.
Better to be that than have your house flying through your neighbourhood right?
Updated OP with the Google Crisis Response, a collection of interactive maps with selectable layers for cloud coverage, paths, evacuation routes, shelters, etc.
On August 27 2011 23:57 SafeAsCheese wrote: Somehow my power is still up
We are on our third tornado warning in the last 2 hours
idk how tornado warnings work in hurricanes but i live in oklahoma and more than half the time there is a tornado warning there is no tornado just conditions that likely could produce one.
Hey guys, anyone from new york here, please? I was just wondering, what it's like in new york atm? My sister is there working over a summer so whats the situation? I don't want to search blogs/websites because they will likely be full of shit ^_^. Thanks for answer
On August 28 2011 02:45 RoyalCheese wrote: Hey guys, anyone from new york here, please? I was just wondering, what it's like in new york atm? My sister is there working over a summer so whats the situation? I don't want to search blogs/websites because they will likely be full of shit ^_^. Thanks for answer
It was raining a bit earlier, but right now it's perfectly fine here in NYC. I assume it's "the calm before the storm". Not even a breeze going on so far, though.
Personally I'm looking forward to seeing if all of the paranoia that the media is sparking is justified for once.
On August 28 2011 02:45 RoyalCheese wrote: Hey guys, anyone from new york here, please? I was just wondering, what it's like in new york atm? My sister is there working over a summer so whats the situation? I don't want to search blogs/websites because they will likely be full of shit ^_^. Thanks for answer
It was raining a bit earlier, but right now it's perfectly fine here in NYC. I assume it's "the calm before the storm". Not even a breeze going on so far, though.
Personally I'm looking forward to seeing if all of the paranoia that the media is sparking is justified for once.
Yeah, it's the end of the world on every website. She sms-ed me that they are ready for evac but it should 'only' be a troppical storm in their area (montauk). Are you from NY? When should the storm arrive and are you worried? Does these thing happen a lot on east coast?
On August 27 2011 23:57 SafeAsCheese wrote: Somehow my power is still up
We are on our third tornado warning in the last 2 hours
idk how tornado warnings work in hurricanes but i live in oklahoma and more than half the time there is a tornado warning there is no tornado just conditions that likely could produce one.
No, tornado warnings mean there is a tornado on the ground already or one about to be, a tornado watch means that conditions are right that could likely produce one.
On August 28 2011 02:45 RoyalCheese wrote: Hey guys, anyone from new york here, please? I was just wondering, what it's like in new york atm? My sister is there working over a summer so whats the situation? I don't want to search blogs/websites because they will likely be full of shit ^_^. Thanks for answer
It was raining a bit earlier, but right now it's perfectly fine here in NYC. I assume it's "the calm before the storm". Not even a breeze going on so far, though.
Personally I'm looking forward to seeing if all of the paranoia that the media is sparking is justified for once.
Yeah, it's the end of the world on every website. She sms-ed me that they are ready for evac but it should 'only' be a troppical storm in their area (montauk). Are you from NY? When should the storm arrive and are you worried? Does these thing happen a lot on east coast?
I live in Queens, which is in between Long Island and Manhattan. Not sure how things are out in Montauk, but considering they're right on the eastern coast, they'll likely get hit harder than us in NYC. Not sure when the storm will actually hit and I honestly don't care. The only thing I'm worried about is something like my power going out which would prevent me from sitting back and watching MLG, which is pretty much what I'm doing right now. LOL
I live on top of a hill so I'm really not expecting any damage since flooding has never been a problem. Can't say the same about people a few blocks down the street on lower elevation, though. They might have some reason to be concerned.
On August 28 2011 02:45 RoyalCheese wrote: Hey guys, anyone from new york here, please? I was just wondering, what it's like in new york atm? My sister is there working over a summer so whats the situation? I don't want to search blogs/websites because they will likely be full of shit ^_^. Thanks for answer
I'm not in NY (my aunt is) but I'm in northern NJ so I can have a rough estimate as to what's happening and nothing really. There was some rain but that's it. I don't really expect too much more than what's been happening. Just a gut feeling but I could be wrong.
On August 28 2011 02:45 RoyalCheese wrote: Hey guys, anyone from new york here, please? I was just wondering, what it's like in new york atm? My sister is there working over a summer so whats the situation? I don't want to search blogs/websites because they will likely be full of shit ^_^. Thanks for answer
It was raining a bit earlier, but right now it's perfectly fine here in NYC. I assume it's "the calm before the storm". Not even a breeze going on so far, though.
Personally I'm looking forward to seeing if all of the paranoia that the media is sparking is justified for once.
Yeah, it's the end of the world on every website. She sms-ed me that they are ready for evac but it should 'only' be a troppical storm in their area (montauk). Are you from NY? When should the storm arrive and are you worried? Does these thing happen a lot on east coast?
These things do not happen often at all as far north as Montauk. South of Montauk has issued a mandatory evacuation order.
I, myself, am at the western end of Long Island, in Brooklyn, and conditions are cloudy with some occasional downpours at the moment. I just got back from biking to Coney Island Beach and Jamaica Bay and it is clear that not everyone has evacuated despite police vans blaring the order (they have till 5 PM anyway).
Updated OP, putting most of yesterday's post under spoiler, with new information.
On August 28 2011 02:45 RoyalCheese wrote: Hey guys, anyone from new york here, please? I was just wondering, what it's like in new york atm? My sister is there working over a summer so whats the situation? I don't want to search blogs/websites because they will likely be full of shit ^_^. Thanks for answer
It was raining a bit earlier, but right now it's perfectly fine here in NYC. I assume it's "the calm before the storm". Not even a breeze going on so far, though.
Personally I'm looking forward to seeing if all of the paranoia that the media is sparking is justified for once.
Yeah, it's the end of the world on every website. She sms-ed me that they are ready for evac but it should 'only' be a troppical storm in their area (montauk). Are you from NY? When should the storm arrive and are you worried? Does these thing happen a lot on east coast?
These things do not happen often at all as far north as Montauk. South of Montauk has issued a mandatory evacuation order.
I, myself, am at the western end of Long Island, in Brooklyn, and conditions are cloudy with some occasional downpours at the moment. I just got back from biking to Coney Island Beach and Jamaica Bay and it is clear that not everyone has evacuated despite police vans blaring the order (they have till 5 PM anyway).
Well, i can only hope she isn't hipster enough to ignore the evacuation orders Oh well, hopefully USA is prepared for these things well. GL guys in wethering the storm
Really overcast sky, pretty humid out. Slight sprinkle here and there but no winds at all yet. NYC is turtling hard though, big push coming from Irene soon
News From NY (I'm next to an evacuation center): * Irene expected to hit NY Sat night to Sun night * Subways are all suspended * Airports are closed * All Starbucks are closed * Possibility of electricity being shut off in some areas. Fill sinks and bathtubs with water to prepare for loss of electricity. Charge electronic devices. * Evacuations are taking people in and they still have room. Pets are welcomed. (Brooklyn has more than expected though). Evacuation must be completed by 5pm. * Go bags recommended (Stores are sold out of Flashlights and Batteries). Any recommendations on good, waterproof, rugged backpacks to be used as go bags (in case of earthquakes, hurricanes, apocalypse, zombie attacks, etc)?
On August 28 2011 04:43 mnm wrote: * Go bags recommended (Stores are sold out of Flashlights and Batteries). Any recommendations on good, waterproof, rugged backpacks to be used as go bags (in case of earthquakes, hurricanes, apocalypse, zombie attacks, etc)?
On August 28 2011 04:43 mnm wrote: News From NY (I'm next to an evacuation center): * Irene expected to hit NY Sat night to Sun night * Subways are all suspended * Airports are closed * All Starbucks are closed * Possibility of electricity being shut off in some areas. Fill sinks and bathtubs with water to prepare for loss of electricity. Charge electronic devices. * Evacuations are taking people in and they still have room. Pets are welcomed. (Brooklyn has more than expected though). Evacuation must be completed by 5pm. * Go bags recommended (Stores are sold out of Flashlights and Batteries). Any recommendations on good, waterproof, rugged backpacks to be used as go bags (in case of earthquakes, hurricanes, apocalypse, zombie attacks, etc)?
WHAT.
Also, I hear it's supposed to hit NY at about 10:30-11 tonight.
Find it ironic, especially MSNBC, keep commenting on why there are still people outside in Virginia that it's reckless. Meanwhile the reporter is standing outside reporting...
On August 28 2011 04:43 mnm wrote: * Go bags recommended (Stores are sold out of Flashlights and Batteries). Any recommendations on good, waterproof, rugged backpacks to be used as go bags (in case of earthquakes, hurricanes, apocalypse, zombie attacks, etc)?
Northface backpacks?
My Swiss Gear is actually overbuilt for college books, but I'm not sure how waterproof it is.
Updated OP with your LR deeshoo, as well as new reports of deaths from NC and VA.
Live 16:55 EST from Upper West Side Manhattan, NYC + Show Spoiler +
NYC (read: me) is pretty much turtled up now. I'm in my dorm room watching the window (which has a north facing view of Broadway on the right and the Hudson on the left), sticking my hand out every so often to check the climate. Nobody's out on the sidewalk, a few cars on the streets.
Still no rain, but it's still super overcast (no surprise). Wind's picked up a little, pretty constant breeze of what I'm guessing is 10-15 mph.
Just bought a lot of food in anticipation, local restaurants and markets are going to continue to be open for the rest of the day, but they're all closed for tomorrow. Praying for electricitiy and internet as the evening goes on, I want to watch MLG RA had a floor meeting last night explaining emergency procedures if worse came to worst, where we would take shelter in the auditorium for the rest of the night/day.
On August 26 2011 10:48 RusHXceL wrote: MLG is going to get crazy when the hurricane comes
quote me.
dont hurricane areas generally use event halls and convention centers to put displaced peoples? MLG might be shut down by the govt (or just the elements fucking with wires). bad planning from mlg
there is a picture of the path of irene on that link. It shows by time it gets to canada itll be huge but that's not how hurricanes work right? it'll just fizzle off eventually over land?
there is a picture of the path of irene on that link. It shows by time it gets to canada itll be huge but that's not how hurricanes work right? it'll just fizzle off eventually over land?
No, the gray area in that picture that's huge over Canada is the cone of potential paths that Irene can take. It will begin to break up once it passes over land without touching seawater any longer.
Updated the OP with new information and a Threat Level map from TWC. And found this image of an empty Grand Central Station, shuttered with the MTA subway system and Metro North closed for the weekend, from the MTA itself by way of Wikipedia -
On August 26 2011 10:48 RusHXceL wrote: MLG is going to get crazy when the hurricane comes
quote me.
dont hurricane areas generally use event halls and convention centers to put displaced peoples? MLG might be shut down by the govt (or just the elements fucking with wires). bad planning from mlg
Bad planning? Like they knew that a hurricane was going to hit EXACTLY there on exactly the weekend that they planned months ago... Seriously?
On August 28 2011 07:00 fifasnipe2224 wrote: Having a hard time finding a pet friendly shelter on Long Island.... can I get any help??
Do you mean a place to drop off your pet or a shelter for your pet and yourself? I think shelters are supposed to take both people and pets (maybe max of 1?) if I recall correctly.
On August 26 2011 10:48 RusHXceL wrote: MLG is going to get crazy when the hurricane comes
quote me.
dont hurricane areas generally use event halls and convention centers to put displaced peoples? MLG might be shut down by the govt (or just the elements fucking with wires). bad planning from mlg
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These event locations are placed months and months ahead of time. We can tell hurricanes are coming maybe a few days ahead.
On August 28 2011 07:00 fifasnipe2224 wrote: Having a hard time finding a pet friendly shelter on Long Island.... can I get any help??
In Nassau and Suffolk Counties, pets aren't allowed in shelters according to FEMA's website, I'd head into the city, or to NJ. Pretty sure Westchester doesn't turn away pets either.
Greenville trees are down everywhere, my dorm called 'college hill' we now call 'college island' were trapped by flooding one way and a big ass oak tree that fell the other way...
It's really funny seeing how huge of a deal people are making of Irene in Boston... It's completely underwhelming in reality over here. Overhyped much. As for NC and such, I can't comment.
On August 26 2011 10:48 RusHXceL wrote: MLG is going to get crazy when the hurricane comes
quote me.
dont hurricane areas generally use event halls and convention centers to put displaced peoples? MLG might be shut down by the govt (or just the elements fucking with wires). bad planning from mlg
-.-
These event locations are placed months and months ahead of time. We can tell hurricanes are coming maybe a few days ahead.
Not true, I knew about Irene months ago. Results were leaked! PM for spoilers
Just wanna give my small status report on hurricane.. I currently live at south ozone park, Close to JFK airport.
As of this post it's raining a bit hard and wind has picked up but the rain is moderate and wind is about 15 MPH. To anyone in New york city, I wish you the best and good luck and hope the power doesn't go out so we can play SC2 lol :D
Good luck to all of you who are in irenes path. Hope for the best.
Just heard the first thunder of the night here in central Brooklyn. Updated the OP again with new death totals and rainfall estimates - 6-8 inches so far for NYC, with more potentially locally. Central New Jersey is in line for 8-10 in or more.
On August 28 2011 08:31 LosingID8 wrote: view from my apartment window in manhattan.
hurricane is supposed to arrive in about 3 hours. it's been gray skies all day with almost no cars or people out on the streets.
I thought we had another 12 hours or so at least - where are you getting your info?
Has been pretty slow outside. I went to work today and had to take a cab home - I thought cabs would be doing great business but the cabbie told me that things are actually really slow and he was only planning on working until 6 or so.
I'm in Richmond at the moment, not THAT bad but it's pretty windy and from the news there are tons of trees down and power outages everywhere--except where I am, apparently.
On August 28 2011 08:31 LosingID8 wrote: view from my apartment window in manhattan.
hurricane is supposed to arrive in about 3 hours. it's been gray skies all day with almost no cars or people out on the streets.
I thought we had another 12 hours or so at least - where are you getting your info?
Has been pretty slow outside. I went to work today and had to take a cab home - I thought cabs would be doing great business but the cabbie told me that things are actually really slow and he was only planning on working until 6 or so.
http://www.weather.com/weather/hurricanecentral/tracker judging from the distance between the two points (the top being Hartford, Conneticut) it looks like the eye will be directly over NYC at around 12pm tomorrow, but we'll start feeling the outskirting winds (39+ mph) within a couple of hours.
None of the guys on my l4d team have logged on today, and they all live around the affected areas. Kinda hard to get news when I'm in another continent and without precise addresses. Not sure if they just lost power or had to evacuate =/
On August 28 2011 08:55 Zozo wrote: None of the guys on my l4d team have logged on today, and they all live around the affected areas. Kinda hard to get news when I'm in another continent and without precise addresses. Not sure if they just lost power or had to evacuate =/
i didn't know you posted here, that's fuuuun
most of my east coast l4d players aren't on either o.o they're probably all out being bad asses and wind surfing or something
On August 28 2011 08:31 LosingID8 wrote: view from my apartment window in manhattan.
hurricane is supposed to arrive in about 3 hours. it's been gray skies all day with almost no cars or people out on the streets.
I thought we had another 12 hours or so at least - where are you getting your info?
This is what happens when hurricanes hit in places they normally don't, people think they have a lot longer than they really do and wait till it's too late to either evacuate or take proper precautions because hours before the actual eye moves over NYC they will start see the conditions get exponentially worse.
On August 28 2011 08:31 LosingID8 wrote: view from my apartment window in manhattan.
hurricane is supposed to arrive in about 3 hours. it's been gray skies all day with almost no cars or people out on the streets.
I thought we had another 12 hours or so at least - where are you getting your info?
This is what happens when hurricanes hit in places they normally don't, people think they have a lot longer than they really do and wait till it's too late to either evacuate or take proper precautions because hours before the actual eye moves over NYC they will start see the conditions get exponentially worse.
Yeah I realize now that I'm an idiot :p. I definitely fit your profile, grew up in the midwest where we worried about tornadoes, not hurricanes. I live near the highest point in Manhattan though, so certainly not an evacuation zone. And I did stock up on a few things. Mostly booze. My mom says a lot of the news coverage back home (midwest again) has been about how careless and unprepared new yorkers are due to their overconfidence. But I think Bloomberg etc. has been pretty clever bout this. In my view shutting down the subway is less about actual danger and more about sending a message about seriousness.
On August 26 2011 10:48 RusHXceL wrote: MLG is going to get crazy when the hurricane comes
quote me.
dont hurricane areas generally use event halls and convention centers to put displaced peoples? MLG might be shut down by the govt (or just the elements fucking with wires). bad planning from mlg
Bad planning? Like they knew that a hurricane was going to hit EXACTLY there on exactly the weekend that they planned months ago... Seriously?
Being a gulf coast resident I've weathered a few hurricanes in my time. Whatever you do don't go fuck around outside after the hurricane, power lines can be hot. Fill your tubs with water to flush toilet. And enjoy no a/c for awhile. Y_Y
edit: Also if you're in the direct path it comes in two parts, it will get weirdly calm if you're in the eye. Then all of a sudden it will blast you with part two.
On August 28 2011 08:08 FallDownMarigold wrote: It's really funny seeing how huge of a deal people are making of Irene in Boston... It's completely underwhelming in reality over here. Overhyped much. As for NC and such, I can't comment.
Thank God... I'm in Boston and was reading over this thread to know if I should give a fuck or not. At this rate, it seems that it's just rain and decently high winds, right? It's Boston. +5 days of straight rain happens every once in a while.
On August 28 2011 08:08 FallDownMarigold wrote: It's really funny seeing how huge of a deal people are making of Irene in Boston... It's completely underwhelming in reality over here. Overhyped much. As for NC and such, I can't comment.
Thank God... I'm in Boston and was reading over this thread to know if I should give a fuck or not. At this rate, it seems that it's just rain and decently high winds, right? It's Boston. +5 days of straight rain happens every once in a while.
As long as it isn't flooding in your area I wouldn't worry too much.
On August 28 2011 08:08 FallDownMarigold wrote: It's really funny seeing how huge of a deal people are making of Irene in Boston... It's completely underwhelming in reality over here. Overhyped much. As for NC and such, I can't comment.
Thank God... I'm in Boston and was reading over this thread to know if I should give a fuck or not. At this rate, it seems that it's just rain and decently high winds, right? It's Boston. +5 days of straight rain happens every once in a while.
Dunno how it'll be by Boston, but North Carolina and Virginia got hit pretty damn hard. The thing about Irene is that she's moving more than twice as slow as that of a normal hurricane, therefore doubling the amount of time that a given area is subjected to those winds and rain.
On August 26 2011 10:48 RusHXceL wrote: MLG is going to get crazy when the hurricane comes
quote me.
dont hurricane areas generally use event halls and convention centers to put displaced peoples? MLG might be shut down by the govt (or just the elements fucking with wires). bad planning from mlg
Bad planning? Like they knew that a hurricane was going to hit EXACTLY there on exactly the weekend that they planned months ago... Seriously?
hurricanes have a season. they could avoid it..
That is pretty dumb. That would be like if someone avoids booking a vacation anywhere within 300 miles of the coast in the summer because a hurricane may hit..
just got a call from my parents who live on the coast of NC. the power is out and there is a 8:00 curfew. tons of trees down but no flooding, which is good because thats really what does all the hard damage.
sad news, the Emerald Isle pier has been taken out. it was the last remaining pier within many hours distance (((((( i feel like a part of me is washed away into the sea
On August 28 2011 08:08 FallDownMarigold wrote: It's really funny seeing how huge of a deal people are making of Irene in Boston... It's completely underwhelming in reality over here. Overhyped much. As for NC and such, I can't comment.
Thank God... I'm in Boston and was reading over this thread to know if I should give a fuck or not. At this rate, it seems that it's just rain and decently high winds, right? It's Boston. +5 days of straight rain happens every once in a while.
Yep you can most likely carry on without any fucks given. I hear you on that little rain issue... Coming from a place where it NEVER rains I was pretty excited when I learned it actually rains for days on end sometimes in Boston - til I learned firsthand that "sometimes" means "usually".
On August 28 2011 08:08 FallDownMarigold wrote: It's really funny seeing how huge of a deal people are making of Irene in Boston... It's completely underwhelming in reality over here. Overhyped much. As for NC and such, I can't comment.
Thank God... I'm in Boston and was reading over this thread to know if I should give a fuck or not. At this rate, it seems that it's just rain and decently high winds, right? It's Boston. +5 days of straight rain happens every once in a while.
Yep you can most likely carry on without any fucks given. I hear you on that little rain issue... Coming from a place where it NEVER rains I was pretty excited when I learned it actually rains for days on end sometimes in Boston - til I learned firsthand that "sometimes" means "usually".
I didn't notice until sometime this year when i was watching a movie about agriculture in a class that New England weather is just stupid. I've lived here all my life and never knew any other way. They said that New England has the most volatile, random changes in weather and was like, "Not really. I mean, I've seen it be sunny for a moment, then start snowing, then be sunny, then hail, then thunder, then be sunny, then snow, then rain all in two hours, but that doesn't mean... Oh. Shit. We suck."
Does anyone know what the odds for a tornado are? Here is Jersey City, there is a tornado watch...anything dangerous? And anyone else in a tornado watch?
I am hoping no trees fall on my house, but it wouldn't be the first time. We had a tree fall on the house but the house was able to handle it, and it was a big ass tree lol.
On August 28 2011 10:20 Housemd wrote: Does anyone know what the odds for a tornado are? Here is Jersey City, there is a tornado watch...anything dangerous? And anyone else in a tornado watch?
According to NOAA -
TORNADO WATCH OUTLINE UPDATE FOR WT 812 NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 755 PM EDT SAT AUG 27 2011
TORNADO WATCH 812 IS IN EFFECT UNTIL 500 AM EDT FOR THE FOLLOWING LOCATIONS
NJ . NEW JERSEY COUNTIES INCLUDED ARE
ATLANTIC BERGEN BURLINGTON CAPE MAY CUMBERLAND ESSEX HUDSON MIDDLESEX MONMOUTH OCEAN PASSAIC UNION
On August 28 2011 10:20 Housemd wrote: Does anyone know what the odds for a tornado are? Here is Jersey City, there is a tornado watch...anything dangerous? And anyone else in a tornado watch?
It's normal for the whole area that is under the effects of the hurricane to be under a tornado watch, which means the conditions are right for tornadoes to form, because the strong storms associated with hurricanes. You don't need to be too worried until you get a tornado warning in your area, which means that there is a tornado about to touchdown or already on the ground.
Does it really annoy anyone else when you read through and all these people are playing down the danger of the hurricane since it's only a category 2, yet now at least 5 people have died because of it.
Ladies and gentlemen, we have lightning. Is that supposed to be typical of a hurricane or is this just some random summer thunderstorm that happens to be in Irene's path?
On August 28 2011 11:20 deeshoo wrote: 22:16 EST Live from Upper West Side Manhattan + Show Spoiler +
Ladies and gentlemen, we have lightning. Is that supposed to be typical of a hurricane or is this just some random summer thunderstorm that happens to be in Irene's path?
lol, yes that's typical. All hurricanes are are huge thunderstorms.
On August 28 2011 11:24 ChickaChuckWally wrote: I hate to see kids die, just makes me more grateful that its like 20*C outside where i live
wrong thread 0_o
apparently the eye of the hurricane is supposed to go directly through my town on long island, we'll see how that goes
What wrong thread? A kid, along with ~7 or so other people, have already died from Irene in North Carolina and Virginia so far. 2 kayakers had to be rescued by the NYPD in New York's water and were promptly issued legal summons for the reckless act.
Tornado watches have been issued by the NWS for all of NYC and Long Island, along with Westchester and Rockland Counties.
With all the coverage this storm has gotten, you'd think it was a category 6 or something. I guess its bad, though, for yall on the east coast. Don't get too many of these coming your way, and you don't have to deal with it as often. Good luck, and most of all, stay safe.
On August 28 2011 11:24 ChickaChuckWally wrote: I hate to see kids die, just makes me more grateful that its like 20*C outside where i live
wrong thread 0_o
apparently the eye of the hurricane is supposed to go directly through my town on long island, we'll see how that goes
What wrong thread? A kid, along with ~7 or so other people, have already died from Irene in North Carolina and Virginia so far. 2 kayakers had to be rescued by the NYPD in New York's water and were promptly issued legal summons for the reckless act.
Tornado watches have been issued by the NWS for all of NYC and Long Island, along with Westchester and Rockland Counties.
On August 28 2011 11:43 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: Find it fascinating that despite the Hurricane the Tomb of the Unknown Solider in D.C. is still being guarded.
Since we haven't had a hurricane for a long time a lot of people are overreacting... I'm not saying that it should just be ignored... and of course there were already a few fatalities, but it's not a huge deal for people who make a minimal effort to be prepared.
The unfortunate thing is, after a few more hurricanes like this with everyone overreacting one serious one will come along that lots of people will ignore and there will be a ton of unnecessary deaths.
edit: noticed a sudden change in air pressure here in long island, ny
On August 28 2011 11:20 deeshoo wrote: 22:16 EST Live from Upper West Side Manhattan + Show Spoiler +
Ladies and gentlemen, we have lightning. Is that supposed to be typical of a hurricane or is this just some random summer thunderstorm that happens to be in Irene's path?
lol, yes that's typical. All hurricanes are are huge thunderstorms.
I have never noticed lightning in any of the hurricanes/tropical storms I have been through. I would suspect that on the outer edge of the storm, perhaps some lighting could form, but in the inner most part I hear it is very rare to see lighting.
On August 28 2011 11:20 deeshoo wrote: 22:16 EST Live from Upper West Side Manhattan + Show Spoiler +
Ladies and gentlemen, we have lightning. Is that supposed to be typical of a hurricane or is this just some random summer thunderstorm that happens to be in Irene's path?
lol, yes that's typical. All hurricanes are are huge thunderstorms.
I have never noticed lightning in any of the hurricanes/tropical storms I have been through. I would suspect that on the outer edge of the storm, perhaps some lighting could form, but in the inner most part I hear it is very rare to see lighting.
Hm, that's weird. In all the hurricanes I have been in there has been lightening, even when I was in one of the worst parts of the storm.
Just a question about the lightning: From my understanding, it seems unlikely to have thunder and lightning in a storm like this (with high winds) because wouldn't clouds need to be still/slow in order to do that? So is it an either/or type of situation with the lightning and winds?
Funny how people in Boston are saying its underwhelming and people are making a big deal when Irene is nowhere near there yet, it hasnt even reached NY yet, it's only beginning there.... according to my family it's not going to reach LI until 8-9 AM... let's see if your still saying its underwhelming in 12-24 hours =p
On August 28 2011 12:38 TALegion wrote: Just a question about the lightning: From my understanding, it seems unlikely to have thunder and lightning in a storm like this (with high winds) because wouldn't clouds need to be still/slow in order to do that? So is it an either/or type of situation with the lightning and winds?
That would make sense because the hurricanes where I saw lightening were moving slowly. You can have lightening in high wind situations, tho. There is a difference between winds and how fast a storm moves because what's happening on the ground can differ from what's happening high up in the atmosphere.
Currently showing only 20-30mph winds from the weather station readings all around the "Hurricane". Be sure to click on the temperature readings that you see on the map to see the wind speeds within the dialogs that pop up.
The two big hitters of this mild tropical storm => storm surge + heavy rain. Wind will be very weak it seems once it goes into NJ/NYC.
Things are heating up here in central NJ, water is getting into the basement and we just had a tornado warning for a few minutes (it veered off towards PA though). There's still a tornado watch for all of NJ and the surrounding states until 5AM tomorrow morning, and flash flood warnings as well.
On August 26 2011 10:48 RusHXceL wrote: MLG is going to get crazy when the hurricane comes
quote me.
dont hurricane areas generally use event halls and convention centers to put displaced peoples? MLG might be shut down by the govt (or just the elements fucking with wires). bad planning from mlg
Bad planning? Like they knew that a hurricane was going to hit EXACTLY there on exactly the weekend that they planned months ago... Seriously?
hurricanes have a season. they could avoid it..
Dude I don't know if you have a magic divining rod that tells you where Hurricanes are going to go but one affecting Raleigh is fairly uncommon.
Tornadoes have been hitting small towns near my own here in South Jersey. Although near my house there's only a thunderstorm and that's all I'm hoping for.
Wind and rain picking up here, lights flickered for less than half a second. Hopefully the OP is updated enough, check the links at the bottom of it for some useful maps, advisory notices, and other information. Best of luck to all those affected - see you on the flip (dry?) side!
I live in morris county NJ, [north central] and for the past 3 hours and it has been raining buckets, about in a inch of water per hour.This is already significant flooding on main roads.The wind gusts are getting stronger and stronger right now around ~25.
Just went for a walk in NYC. Heavy rain and some gusts of wind, but nothing too out of the ordinary. Maybe 25% of bodegas are still open in Washington Heights. Some restaurants are officially closed but I can see people partying inside. Delivery guys on bikes are still out too. I hope they are getting good tips! Local bar is still open as well.
I live in morris county NJ, [north central] and for the past 3 hours and it has been raining buckets, about in a inch of water per hour.This is already significant flooding on main roads.The wind gusts are getting stronger and stronger right now around ~25.
The hurricane is 8 hours away. WTF?
GG Irene
edit:EYE of the hurricane is 8 hours away
Ouch! I live in plainville, ct about 15 minutes from hartford, we have tons of rain. Puddles are gathering everywhere rapidly, yet not much wind. Im sure it wont be as bad as your part but gl be safe
There was a tornado somewhere. The warnings that were going off were kind of scary.
In Atlantic City, NJ right now... staying at Bally's with the rest of the skeleton crew of casino staff.
So far just a lot of wind and rain, nothing I haven't seen before living in San Francisco.
However, I understand the mandatory evacuation for Atlantic City and other coastal areas. This weather is definitely not for people not used to it. Also, had Irene maintained the category 2 or 3, it would have been much worse.
I live just outside of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I'm supposed to be in my basement because we have a tornado warning, but we also have a flood warning and a flooded basement.
On August 28 2011 14:03 Datum wrote: I live just outside of Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. I'm supposed to be in my basement because we have a tornado warning, but we also have a flood warning and a flooded basement.
GG Irene.
Eep, that sucks. Sounds like you got the short end of the stick there.
On August 28 2011 14:05 Kinetik_Inferno wrote:
Most of the SC2 casters and players are still in Raleigh, right? Could the building go down?
I live on long island and its raining alot right now some trees have fallen and a few power outages but eh not as bad as the media was making it out to be.
On August 28 2011 14:49 Shattered wrote: I live on long island and its raining alot right now some trees have fallen and a few power outages but eh not as bad as the media was making it out to be.
It hasn't hit us on Long Island yet lol... I hope you don't have a beachfront home on the south shore XD
Im from South East Virginia (VA Beach) and it was really weak compared to most hurricanes we get. The News stations hyped it up a little much it seems like. North East should be fine maybe a lot of rain. Although they never seem to get hit by any of the hurricanes.
On August 28 2011 14:49 Shattered wrote: I live on long island and its raining alot right now some trees have fallen and a few power outages but eh not as bad as the media was making it out to be.
It hasn't hit us on Long Island yet lol... I hope you don't have a beachfront home on the south shore XD
Nope xd I live relatively towards the middle of the island so I think I'll be fine. My dad is stuck at work though being that he is a doctor :/.
Hmm.. from East-Central MD here, and basically it has just been "sort of" windy with light to medium rain, doubt it will get worse here.. going to sleep (what a waste of canned goods and water jugs lol..) gl to everyone North of here, may you have the same luck.
Hoboken, New Jersey here. Rain is getting pretty bad, power outages in some parts of the city (mine is still up yay!) Most of the people here left before 2-3pm. best part of it all was going paint balling in a part of hoboken and having cops tell us to go home haha. But uh yeah, wind/rain is getting worse, and like the guy a few posts above said...the worst won't be coming for a few more hours.
EDIT: A great part of Hoboken is below sea level, so it'll flood real quick :/
ft dix, nj alot of heavy rain and power outages here but nothing to serious yet, alot of tornado warnings and some tornadoes actually did touch down about 5 miles away nothing big tho from what i hear
Live Update from Upper West Side Manhattan, 5:10 EST + Show Spoiler +
edge of the storm's finally here, holy hell that's a lot of wind. it's straight up howling outside my window. not as much rain as i thought there would be, but i imagine it'll only get worse. stay safe everybody
Every time i flip to CNN .. even at 4:30 in the morning .. its all a bout this dumb hurricane ... i dont care i just want to see some entertaining shit ..
im on long island on the south shore at my house right now and holy fuck thats a lot of wind. This is just the edge of the storm on us now and its already taking down power lines, trees etc. Thought this was all hype but wow, in for one hell of a ride. Have to post this from my phone because i have no internet. How can i watch mlg from a smartphone?!?!?
On August 28 2011 19:40 LightWireEX wrote: im on long island on the south shore at my house right now and holy fuck thats a lot of wind. This is just the edge of the storm on us now and its already taking down power lines, trees etc. Thought this was all hype but wow, in for one hell of a ride. Have to post this from my phone because i have no internet. How can i watch mlg from a smartphone?!?!?
thumbs up to you that ur thinking about MLG even with this hurricane -_-v
On August 28 2011 19:35 zEMPd wrote: Every time i flip to CNN .. even at 4:30 in the morning .. its all a bout this dumb hurricane ... i dont care i just want to see some entertaining shit ..
On August 28 2011 19:40 LightWireEX wrote: im on long island on the south shore at my house right now and holy fuck thats a lot of wind. This is just the edge of the storm on us now and its already taking down power lines, trees etc. Thought this was all hype but wow, in for one hell of a ride. Have to post this from my phone because i have no internet. How can i watch mlg from a smartphone?!?!?
thumbs up to you that ur thinking about MLG even with this hurricane -_-v
My family/freinds on long island (near border of nassau/suffolk) have been without power for hours now. Looks as if the eye of the storm is going to go right thru everywhere between their area and NYC...
On August 28 2011 19:40 LightWireEX wrote: im on long island on the south shore at my house right now and holy fuck thats a lot of wind. This is just the edge of the storm on us now and its already taking down power lines, trees etc. Thought this was all hype but wow, in for one hell of a ride. Have to post this from my phone because i have no internet. How can i watch mlg from a smartphone?!?!?
thumbs up to you that ur thinking about MLG even with this hurricane -_-v
On August 28 2011 19:31 Carefree wrote: Where can we check local conditions? or if a specific area has lost power?
From my OP, for local weather conditions I'd recommend NOAA. Type your city and state, or zip code, in the upper left to see recent weather advisories and current and forecasted weather conditions.
For power outages, I know of conEd Power Outages, but it applies only for NYC and parts of the eastern Hudson Valley.
Woke up, looked outside, I have zero damage, no power outages, absoloutly nothing, and the eye of the storm hit my town dead on too. (Barnegat, New Jersey).
I guess some parts got hit harder (was reading facebook comments, and one of my co-workers said he saw his transformer burst into flames).
Checked the weather when I woke up, and looks like Irene is about to hit NYC.
Waking up today, so far so good. A decent sized branch fell in the backyard, but considering that the maple tree we have there is one of the largest in the neighborhood, she's still hanging tough. Otherwise, no flooding, not even major pooling of water, given the constant rain overnight. And power uninterrupted is amazing.
On August 28 2011 15:07 Alasper wrote: Hoboken, New Jersey here. Rain is getting pretty bad, power outages in some parts of the city (mine is still up yay!) Most of the people here left before 2-3pm. best part of it all was going paint balling in a part of hoboken and having cops tell us to go home haha. But uh yeah, wind/rain is getting worse, and like the guy a few posts above said...the worst won't be coming for a few more hours.
EDIT: A great part of Hoboken is below sea level, so it'll flood real quick :/
My brother evacuated Hoboken. They expected it to be under 5 feet of water.
My friend, who just lives a few blocks away, had the power lines on her street just go down. Two of their cars exploded, and according to her, the front of her house looks...melted.
They evacuated her to the nearest middle school...but I've been hearing mini-explosions for the past few hours...
On August 28 2011 22:00 NuKedUFirst wrote: Can hurricanes cause tornados? Looks like I'm in the low - mid category now, best of luck to everyone and hope everyone is okay.
Yes, there have been a few unconfirmed (by the NWS) tornadoes in NC, VA, DE, and MD during Hurricane Irene's march north.
On August 28 2011 22:00 NuKedUFirst wrote: Can hurricanes cause tornados? Looks like I'm in the low - mid category now, best of luck to everyone and hope everyone is okay.
We had Tornado Warnings here in South Nassau earlier. Right now it's just a big rainstorm - kind of a letdown, but mostly a massive relief.
On August 28 2011 19:31 Carefree wrote: Where can we check local conditions? or if a specific area has lost power?
From my OP, for local weather conditions I'd recommend NOAA. Type your city and state, or zip code, in the upper left to see recent weather advisories and current and forecasted weather conditions.
For power outages, I know of conEd Power Outages, but it applies only for NYC and parts of the eastern Hudson Valley.
Whats with the horrible name? Why won't they name them like Soulclaimer or GrimBlow... There would surely be less casualties. I heard there was a 55 y/o man who went surfing.. He probably heard that Irene is coming to the shore and wanted to look cool and buff for her.. No one would do that for SoulClaimer
Must be some pretty serious gusts to knock down power lines and trees. I've never seen that happen here in sub 100 mph winds. I live less than 50 miles from the gulf coast.
On August 28 2011 19:31 Carefree wrote: Where can we check local conditions? or if a specific area has lost power?
From my OP, for local weather conditions I'd recommend NOAA. Type your city and state, or zip code, in the upper left to see recent weather advisories and current and forecasted weather conditions.
For power outages, I know of conEd Power Outages, but it applies only for NYC and parts of the eastern Hudson Valley.
Thanks! Any idea what Newark uses for power?
I want to say PSE&G, the company that serves almost 3/4 of New Jersey's population. They issued a press release at 9 AM this morning (PSE&G Hurricane Irene Update) but I'm not sure if they are actively tracking outages for the public's knowledge.
Thanks for all the updates, guys. Very useful for someone with limited news/internet access.
My parents are in the DC area and they report a lot of rain but no power outages. Friends in New York say just that the storm is "pretty scary".
My airline wouldn't let me board any plane because my final destination was JFK. The bastards! So I'm now in Amsterdam at least a few more days...trying hard to get back to the States by Wednesday, because that's when a good friend of mine will return to Australia (from NYC) indefinitely. But I'm not optimistic, since my airline's call center is barely functioning, and my buddies' airline, Continental, isn't even taking calls (!).
On August 28 2011 22:10 gosublade wrote: Whats with the horrible name? Why won't they name them like Soulclaimer or GrimBlow... There would surely be less casualties. I heard there was a 55 y/o man who went surfing.. He probably heard that Irene is coming to the shore and wanted to look cool and buff for her.. No one would do that for SoulClaimer
The first letter in the names for hurricanes is chosen based on how many there have been so far that year. First starting with a then b, c, d ,e ,f etc. What could you think of for I? that and having a creeeepy ass name would probably scare the shit out of ppl =/
On August 28 2011 22:14 muse5187 wrote: Must be some pretty serious gusts to knock down power lines and trees. I've never seen that happen here in sub 100 mph winds. I live less than 50 miles from the gulf coast.
In a lot of areas of the country, there's less windstorm pruning than there is down there. If there aren't frequent severe weather events, a lot of weaker trees will just sit there until a big one comes around. If you live in one of those areas, you'll lose power a whole lot more often because everything comes down at once.
Up here on Lawn Guyland, though, we get Nor'easters fairly often and some severe windstorms once in a while, so we have trees blowing down all the time like down there.
Update: Hurricane Irene has been downgraded to Tropical Storm Irene, max sustained winds of 65 mph.
Also, the flooding in Manhattan is getting worse I believe (though not extreme by any measure), with CNN reporting that parts of the West Village is under water as far in as 10th Ave, and the East River has easily risen above the seawall south of the Brooklyn Bridge. The Holland Tunnel has been closed due to flooding, with cars diverted to the Lincoln.
It was raining pretty badly at 6AM... but here where I live in Brooklyn right now it looks like just a really big storm; usual puddles, garbage cans knocked over and some leaves on the ground. The rain stopped ten minutes ago.
On August 28 2011 22:10 gosublade wrote: Whats with the horrible name? Why won't they name them like Soulclaimer or GrimBlow... There would surely be less casualties. I heard there was a 55 y/o man who went surfing.. He probably heard that Irene is coming to the shore and wanted to look cool and buff for her.. No one would do that for SoulClaimer
The first letter in the names for hurricanes is chosen based on how many there have been so far that year. First starting with a then b, c, d ,e ,f etc. What could you think of for I? that and having a creeeepy ass name would probably scare the shit out of ppl =/
On August 28 2011 22:10 gosublade wrote: Whats with the horrible name? Why won't they name them like Soulclaimer or GrimBlow... There would surely be less casualties. I heard there was a 55 y/o man who went surfing.. He probably heard that Irene is coming to the shore and wanted to look cool and buff for her.. No one would do that for SoulClaimer
The first letter in the names for hurricanes is chosen based on how many there have been so far that year. First starting with a then b, c, d ,e ,f etc. What could you think of for I? that and having a creeeepy ass name would probably scare the shit out of ppl =/
IdrA.
generally I don't make posts with no content, but this...
On August 28 2011 22:10 gosublade wrote: Whats with the horrible name? Why won't they name them like Soulclaimer or GrimBlow... There would surely be less casualties. I heard there was a 55 y/o man who went surfing.. He probably heard that Irene is coming to the shore and wanted to look cool and buff for her.. No one would do that for SoulClaimer
The first letter in the names for hurricanes is chosen based on how many there have been so far that year. First starting with a then b, c, d ,e ,f etc. What could you think of for I? that and having a creeeepy ass name would probably scare the shit out of ppl =/
iRapeYourSoul sounds like a good name for hurricane.
On August 28 2011 22:10 gosublade wrote: Whats with the horrible name? Why won't they name them like Soulclaimer or GrimBlow... There would surely be less casualties. I heard there was a 55 y/o man who went surfing.. He probably heard that Irene is coming to the shore and wanted to look cool and buff for her.. No one would do that for SoulClaimer
The first letter in the names for hurricanes is chosen based on how many there have been so far that year. First starting with a then b, c, d ,e ,f etc. What could you think of for I? that and having a creeeepy ass name would probably scare the shit out of ppl =/
That pic is extremely creepy. Similar to the pics you sometimes see of supercells in the plains region before tornadoes. It really does seem kind of alien.
I have a couple of questions and I'm hoping someone hear can answer me.
Under normal circumstances, if we use two electricity hogging tools, such as the air conditioner and iron, on my side of the home (includes my room, half the living room, kitchen, and bathroom), the circuit breaker goes out (don't know the proper term), and I have to go to the basement to flip the switch back.
However, the power went out in that exact area (half the living room, kitchen, and bathroom), and I knew it wasn't the circuit breakers, but I checked to make sure; and it wasn't,
But what I'm wondering is: how is it possible for the storm to cause a power outage in only half my house? And is this something that is going to be fixed by the people going around repairing damage from the storm, or is it something that we have to report?
On August 28 2011 23:21 lowkontrast wrote: I have a couple of questions and I'm hoping someone hear can answer me.
Under normal circumstances, if we use two electricity hogging tools, such as the air conditioner and iron, on my side of the home (includes my room, half the living room, kitchen, and bathroom), the circuit breaker goes out (don't know the proper term), and I have to go to the basement to flip the switch back.
However, the power went out in that exact area (half the living room, kitchen, and bathroom), and I knew it wasn't the circuit breakers, but I checked to make sure; and it wasn't,
But what I'm wondering is: how is it possible for the storm to cause a power outage in only half my house? And is this something that is going to be fixed by the people going around repairing damage from the storm, or is it something that we have to report?
Edit: Guy from upstairs has the same issue.
I can see half a residence losing power if either it gets power from two different source cables or if water or other damage affected only the wiring that powers half the place. As for calling it in or not, if the houses around you also have no power then it should be a known blackout zone. If your half-a-house is the only house (part of a house) without power, then I'd suggest calling it in if you can't figure out what's causing the lack of power.
I live near the center of Brooklyn in New York, and all I can say is nothing happened. I felt as if the storms that passed a couple of weeks ago were worse. I am sure it is way worse by areas closer to water, but in my area, I think people just trolled by the media.
Hudson Valley here didn't really get battered too bad. Still have power, but my GF one town over and friends in a neighboring town lost power too. Considering myself lucky.
On August 28 2011 23:56 eZmode wrote: I live near the center of Brooklyn in New York, and all I can say is nothing happened. I felt as if the storms that passed a couple of weeks ago were worse. I am sure it is way worse by areas closer to water, but in my area, I think people just trolled by the media.
I'm in the center of Brooklyn as well and branches and trees are down nearby. We'll see later how much damage fallen trees and such caused. People weren't 'trolled' because no evacuation orders were given to such neighborhoods at high-enough elevations like ours. Be glad that the winds weren't as high as feared.
For myself, the sun is peaking out over the clouds now and Irene seems to have passed Brooklyn by. Connecticut and upstate New York are next in line.
On August 28 2011 23:56 eZmode wrote: I live near the center of Brooklyn in New York, and all I can say is nothing happened. I felt as if the storms that passed a couple of weeks ago were worse. I am sure it is way worse by areas closer to water, but in my area, I think people just trolled by the media.
I'm in the center of Brooklyn as well and branches and trees are down nearby. We'll see later how much damage fallen trees and such caused. People weren't 'trolled' because no evacuation orders were given to such neighborhoods at high-enough elevations like ours. Be glad that the winds weren't as high as feared.
For myself, the sun is peaking out over the clouds now and Irene seems to have passed Brooklyn by. Connecticut and upstate New York are next in line.
Ehh, I just think the people who bought like a week's supply of food got "trolled'. I guess it is because natural disasters almost never hit New York. As my friend said, New Yorkers are spoiled with no natural disasters, so that's probably why people were so afraid. I know that the storm actually did something in areas like Long Island, but in areas like Brooklyn, not much has happened (atleast in my area). Luckily I knew the storm wasn't that big of a deal for where I live and did not go crazy about it.
Just woke up at 11am. Can still hear the wind but I don't feel it (winds are coming from the south west, I live on the northern side of the building) I feel like it was supposed to stay longer in NY, but otherwise the storm's pretty much gone. Sad I missed the eyewall passing overhead, but other than that, things are pretty uneventful now, thankfully
edit: lawl sun is coming out. people walking in streets with umbrellas, but otherwise not really giving a damn.
On August 28 2011 23:56 eZmode wrote: I live near the center of Brooklyn in New York, and all I can say is nothing happened. I felt as if the storms that passed a couple of weeks ago were worse. I am sure it is way worse by areas closer to water, but in my area, I think people just trolled by the media.
I'm in the center of Brooklyn as well and branches and trees are down nearby. We'll see later how much damage fallen trees and such caused. People weren't 'trolled' because no evacuation orders were given to such neighborhoods at high-enough elevations like ours. Be glad that the winds weren't as high as feared.
For myself, the sun is peaking out over the clouds now and Irene seems to have passed Brooklyn by. Connecticut and upstate New York are next in line.
Ehh, I just think the people who bought like a week's supply of food got "trolled'. I guess it is because natural disasters almost never hit New York. As my friend said, New Yorkers are spoiled with no natural disasters, so that's probably why people were so afraid. I know that the storm actually did something in areas like Long Island, but in areas like Brooklyn, not much has happened (atleast in my area). Luckily I knew the storm wasn't that big of a deal for where I live and did not go crazy about it.
The media is just trolling you and you're buying into it. Out of 370k or so NYC residents ordered to leave by Bloomberg and co., nowhere near half actually left their homes. Shelters citywide never filled up. Just because you hear about empty store shelves does not mean every New Yorker went crazy and bought food and water for a month.
On August 28 2011 23:56 eZmode wrote: I live near the center of Brooklyn in New York, and all I can say is nothing happened. I felt as if the storms that passed a couple of weeks ago were worse. I am sure it is way worse by areas closer to water, but in my area, I think people just trolled by the media.
I'm in the center of Brooklyn as well and branches and trees are down nearby. We'll see later how much damage fallen trees and such caused. People weren't 'trolled' because no evacuation orders were given to such neighborhoods at high-enough elevations like ours. Be glad that the winds weren't as high as feared.
For myself, the sun is peaking out over the clouds now and Irene seems to have passed Brooklyn by. Connecticut and upstate New York are next in line.
Ehh, I just think the people who bought like a week's supply of food got "trolled'. I guess it is because natural disasters almost never hit New York. As my friend said, New Yorkers are spoiled with no natural disasters, so that's probably why people were so afraid. I know that the storm actually did something in areas like Long Island, but in areas like Brooklyn, not much has happened (atleast in my area). Luckily I knew the storm wasn't that big of a deal for where I live and did not go crazy about it.
The media is just trolling you and you're buying into it. Out of 370k or so NYC residents ordered to leave by Bloomberg and co., nowhere near half actually left their homes. Shelters citywide never filled up. Just because you hear about empty store shelves does not mean every New Yorker went crazy and bought food and water for a month.
I'm not trying to say everyone went crazy shopping, but I'm sure a large group of people did. Anyway lets not argue and hope for the best. :D
Irene is actually a tropical storm. This should be renamed Tropical Storm Irene . Also, I have a tree down that fell from my neighbors back yard into my back yard and a tree that fell from behind my fence line(marker for where our land ends) where there is only woods, no houses for quite a few yards in that direction, and fell so that if the other tree that is currently holding it up breaks/falls/etc. then the tree that already fell will fall completely. Thus it will knock out my fence and the dog run inside of it. The dog run is basically a big metal crate with brick flooring where we put puppies and what not in so that they actually "use the facilities" instead of just digging dirt. The back yard is where we put our dogs out to "use the facilities" since my family breeds dogs. Worst part is, we have no easy access to the tree that fell down in any way. We would have to take a team all the way to the end of the block(6 or so houses down) down a trail to the local pool, have them turn right, and then take themselves and their equipment to the fence or knock down the fence, take them to the back yard, and hope they aren't scared of dogs .
On August 29 2011 00:32 3FFA wrote: Irene is actually a tropical storm. This should be renamed Tropical Storm Irene . Also, I have a tree down that fell from my neighbors back yard into my back yard and a tree that fell from behind my fence line(marker for where our land ends) where there is only woods, no houses for quite a few yards in that direction, and fell so that if the other tree that is currently holding it up breaks/falls/etc. then the tree that already fell will fall completely. Thus it will knock out my fence and the dog run inside of it. The dog run is basically a big metal crate with brick flooring where we put puppies and what not in so that they actually "use the facilities" instead of just digging dirt. The back yard is where we put our dogs out to "use the facilities" since my family breeds dogs. Worst part is, we have no easy access to the tree that fell down in any way. We would have to take a team all the way to the end of the block(6 or so houses down) down a trail to the local pool, have them turn right, and then take themselves and their equipment to the fence or knock down the fence, take them to the back yard, and hope they aren't scared of dogs .
If you read the OP, the 2nd line states that Hurricane Irene has been downgraded to a tropical storm. Regardless, the thread is as much about Irene that was a hurricane as it is about the Irene that is a tropical storm.
And yeah, there must be hundreds of trees down in Brooklyn alone, with hundreds more in Queens and Long Island, not even mentioning New Jersey. Restoring power to many of those areas will involve clearing those trees I bet.
Reporting in from the Boston area, lots of hurricane jokes blowing around, but in all seriousness we're okay over here, doesn't seem to be much damage other than wind and rain. I can only speak for my immediate area though, prayers and thoughts to those caught in a more serious location.
Also, definitely not a good idea to watch The Day After Tomorrow as a hurricane is coming up the coast towards you.
Here in Worcester MA it's been raining hard since early this morning (woke me up in fact) and sometimes large gusts of wind but nothing really scary or sustained yet - though I guess the worst is still to come. I'm expecting to lose power b/c of downed tree limbs but I hope we keep it on until MLG is over ... talk about some CRAZY ACTION happening there ... + Show Spoiler +
Trenton, NJ; heavy rain into the early morning and there were tornado warnings for Ewing until around 3am. One tornado touched down in Jackson and made it all the way to Mercer. No reported damage.
The winds following the ass of this storm, are becoming way more dangerous than I had expected, two huge trees came feet from landing on my house in NE PA. To the people claiming this is nothing but hype, hold your comments to yourself. Trees falling are fucking dangerous regardless of how much sensationalism the media has given this storm.
On August 29 2011 01:15 Zaranth wrote: Here in Worcester MA it's been raining hard since early this morning (woke me up in fact) and sometimes large gusts of wind but nothing really scary or sustained yet - though I guess the worst is still to come. I'm expecting to lose power b/c of downed tree limbs but I hope we keep it on until MLG is over ... talk about some CRAZY ACTION happening there ... + Show Spoiler +
Really appreciate what the OP is doing with the photos.. Looks like im in the med and potentially high range now. Right now as I look outside in New Brunswick it is heavy rain..
Nice weather outside,even with the strong gusts. However there is tons of tree damage in my town.TONS of people without power(i live in the only apartment complex in town.and we have generators And about 5 roads are flooded, 2 of them being the roads that get you ANYWHERE in my town.
So I'd say here hurricane Irene fucked us pretty bad, however all the local areas and NYC(which i live 15 minutes away from) are doing just fine.
Family lives here about 30 minutes southeast of me and the boardwalk there has been destroyed, and they have major flooding everywhere.There were evacuated staying with family elsewhere so everyone is doing fine.
There's some serious inland flooding apparently across New Jersey and into Westchester and points north and east as well as I guess Darien and other towns in CT are battling the water as well. NYC itself is mostly ok, with fallen (or falling) trees posing a danger.
A website has been set up for NYC residents to report damage, flooding, trees, power outages, etc. Don't know how useful it'll turn out to be, but here's the link -
Listening to Jay Walder now of the MTA, and he's saying Metro North has taken the most damage. Inspectors will be checking out the city subway tunnels, with bus service possibly being the first public transport restored. Tolls are still suspended on many MTA bridges.
best of luck to everyone, I'm in London Ontario, should be pretty safe.. can't deny the awesomeness of mother nature though.. (prolly wouldn't be saying this if I was on the east coast).
Im in Darien CT here, the storm wasn't too bad, but the flooding, THE FLOODING!
There are people with 5,10,15$ million dollar houses out on the sound that had waves crashing into their second story windows. Theres a boat dealership in town and the guy decided not to tie down his boats, so when the storm came they just floated right off their trailers, the guy probably lost like $300k worth of merchandise just floating in the sound lol.
I managed to get lucky but apparently something like 40% of the town is out of power right now, and there are trees down everywhere.
Still, its nowhere near how bad the media hyped it to be.
On August 29 2011 02:15 Moochlol wrote: The winds following the ass of this storm, are becoming way more dangerous than I had expected, two huge trees came feet from landing on my house in NE PA. To the people claiming this is nothing but hype, hold your comments to yourself. Trees falling are fucking dangerous regardless of how much sensationalism the media has given this storm.
Yeah I'd ignore those posts. Lot of metropolitan/city folk have extreme tunnel vision of the realities of what's happening outside. I know some people in Manhattan who are whining about it this being 'overrated'. Talk about a total loss of perspective on those idiots - I'd just ignore them.
PS - Pepco, the worst electric company in the nation, is failing again. Hundreds of thousands in DC without power. Not a total surpise, but yeah.
Philadelphia got hit hard by flooding apparently, with its all-time record of 17 ft water being pushed by current 15 feet worth of water in some areas. At least 7 buildings have collapsed in the city as a result of the storm. Millions without power from practically all the states that have felt Irene.
On August 29 2011 02:15 Moochlol wrote: The winds following the ass of this storm, are becoming way more dangerous than I had expected, two huge trees came feet from landing on my house in NE PA. To the people claiming this is nothing but hype, hold your comments to yourself. Trees falling are fucking dangerous regardless of how much sensationalism the media has given this storm.
Yeah I'd ignore those posts. Lot of metropolitan/city folk have extreme tunnel vision of the realities of what's happening outside. I know some people in Manhattan who are whining about it this being 'overrated'. Talk about a total loss of perspective on those idiots - I'd just ignore them.
PS - Pepco, the worst electric company in the nation, is failing again. Hundreds of thousands in DC without power. Not a total surpise, but yeah.
I don't think anyone's saying that there weren't dangers or damage done. We're just saying that the media hype just wasn't justified. The fact that a tree fell a few feet from your house is pretty irrelevant to that.
On August 29 2011 02:15 Moochlol wrote: The winds following the ass of this storm, are becoming way more dangerous than I had expected, two huge trees came feet from landing on my house in NE PA. To the people claiming this is nothing but hype, hold your comments to yourself. Trees falling are fucking dangerous regardless of how much sensationalism the media has given this storm.
Yeah I'd ignore those posts. Lot of metropolitan/city folk have extreme tunnel vision of the realities of what's happening outside. I know some people in Manhattan who are whining about it this being 'overrated'. Talk about a total loss of perspective on those idiots - I'd just ignore them.
PS - Pepco, the worst electric company in the nation, is failing again. Hundreds of thousands in DC without power. Not a total surpise, but yeah.
I don't think anyone's saying that there weren't dangers or damage done. We're just saying that the media hype just wasn't justified. The fact that a tree fell a few feet from your house is pretty irrelevant to that.
The hype was justified. Just because NYC didn't experience major damage does not mean that over 4 million Americans aren't without power, that parts of Philadelphia aren't under 15 ft of water, that Vermont hasn't had catastrophic flooding across almost every large riverbank in the state, nor that 16 (confirmed so far) people haven't died because of the storm. If the media told everyone to ignore evacuation orders and take the storm lightly, total damage and storm casualties may have been much worse. It's impossible to predict where exactly the worse wind damage and flooding will occur, especially given the massive size of what was tropical storm (hurricane) Irene.
On August 29 2011 02:15 Moochlol wrote: The winds following the ass of this storm, are becoming way more dangerous than I had expected, two huge trees came feet from landing on my house in NE PA. To the people claiming this is nothing but hype, hold your comments to yourself. Trees falling are fucking dangerous regardless of how much sensationalism the media has given this storm.
Yeah I'd ignore those posts. Lot of metropolitan/city folk have extreme tunnel vision of the realities of what's happening outside. I know some people in Manhattan who are whining about it this being 'overrated'. Talk about a total loss of perspective on those idiots - I'd just ignore them.
PS - Pepco, the worst electric company in the nation, is failing again. Hundreds of thousands in DC without power. Not a total surpise, but yeah.
The people with no perspective are the ones who think this storm wasn't overhyped. Trees falling over, power going out, tornadoes, etc. occur in every single hurricane that makes landfall. We get about 15 named storms every single year. Thousands of people die from hurricanes in countries like Haiti all the time and we barely hear a word of it. Now we've got the a dozen states declaring a state of emergency, the President dedicating a lot of his time on this storm, and round the clock national coverage. Katrina didn't even get a fraction of this much attention.
i was in the dominican republic last week when the hurricane crossed, i missed it, i slept like a rock, it was about 7 in the morning and everyone was like wtf, it's heavy, but not heavy enough to wake me up o.O
On August 29 2011 02:15 Moochlol wrote: The winds following the ass of this storm, are becoming way more dangerous than I had expected, two huge trees came feet from landing on my house in NE PA. To the people claiming this is nothing but hype, hold your comments to yourself. Trees falling are fucking dangerous regardless of how much sensationalism the media has given this storm.
Yeah I'd ignore those posts. Lot of metropolitan/city folk have extreme tunnel vision of the realities of what's happening outside. I know some people in Manhattan who are whining about it this being 'overrated'. Talk about a total loss of perspective on those idiots - I'd just ignore them.
PS - Pepco, the worst electric company in the nation, is failing again. Hundreds of thousands in DC without power. Not a total surpise, but yeah.
I don't think anyone's saying that there weren't dangers or damage done. We're just saying that the media hype just wasn't justified. The fact that a tree fell a few feet from your house is pretty irrelevant to that.
The hype was justified. Just because NYC didn't experience major damage does not mean that over 4 million Americans aren't without power, that parts of Philadelphia aren't under 15 ft of water, that Vermont hasn't had catastrophic flooding across almost every large riverbank in the state, nor that 16 (confirmed so far) people haven't died because of the storm. If the media told everyone to ignore evacuation orders and take the storm lightly, total damage and storm casualties may have been much worse. It's impossible to predict where exactly the worse wind damage and flooding will occur, especially given the massive size of what was tropical storm (hurricane) Irene.
The problem with doing this is you're pretty much crying wolf every time you sensationalize an event like this. You can be realistic about the level of damage that a given area is likely to suffer without making it out to be the next world war with 24-hour coverage and nothing but pictures and videos of worst-case scenarios to strike fear into peoples' hearts.
On August 29 2011 02:15 Moochlol wrote: The winds following the ass of this storm, are becoming way more dangerous than I had expected, two huge trees came feet from landing on my house in NE PA. To the people claiming this is nothing but hype, hold your comments to yourself. Trees falling are fucking dangerous regardless of how much sensationalism the media has given this storm.
Yeah I'd ignore those posts. Lot of metropolitan/city folk have extreme tunnel vision of the realities of what's happening outside. I know some people in Manhattan who are whining about it this being 'overrated'. Talk about a total loss of perspective on those idiots - I'd just ignore them.
PS - Pepco, the worst electric company in the nation, is failing again. Hundreds of thousands in DC without power. Not a total surpise, but yeah.
I don't think anyone's saying that there weren't dangers or damage done. We're just saying that the media hype just wasn't justified. The fact that a tree fell a few feet from your house is pretty irrelevant to that.
The hype was justified. Just because NYC didn't experience major damage does not mean that over 4 million Americans aren't without power, that parts of Philadelphia aren't under 15 ft of water, that Vermont hasn't had catastrophic flooding across almost every large riverbank in the state, nor that 16 (confirmed so far) people haven't died because of the storm. If the media told everyone to ignore evacuation orders and take the storm lightly, total damage and storm casualties may have been much worse. It's impossible to predict where exactly the worse wind damage and flooding will occur, especially given the massive size of what was tropical storm (hurricane) Irene.
The problem with doing this is you're pretty much crying wolf every time you sensationalize an event like this. You can be realistic about the level of damage that a given area is likely to suffer without making it out to be the next world war with 24-hour coverage and nothing but pictures and videos of worst-case scenarios to strike fear into peoples' hearts.
I don't really agree with that. These people aren't used to a hurricane, and as the flooding is showing they likely saved a good amount of lives. One life is worth it right? You would have to be stupid to blow a hurricane off because the last one was weak.
On August 29 2011 02:15 Moochlol wrote: The winds following the ass of this storm, are becoming way more dangerous than I had expected, two huge trees came feet from landing on my house in NE PA. To the people claiming this is nothing but hype, hold your comments to yourself. Trees falling are fucking dangerous regardless of how much sensationalism the media has given this storm.
Yeah I'd ignore those posts. Lot of metropolitan/city folk have extreme tunnel vision of the realities of what's happening outside. I know some people in Manhattan who are whining about it this being 'overrated'. Talk about a total loss of perspective on those idiots - I'd just ignore them.
PS - Pepco, the worst electric company in the nation, is failing again. Hundreds of thousands in DC without power. Not a total surpise, but yeah.
I don't think anyone's saying that there weren't dangers or damage done. We're just saying that the media hype just wasn't justified. The fact that a tree fell a few feet from your house is pretty irrelevant to that.
The hype was justified. Just because NYC didn't experience major damage does not mean that over 4 million Americans aren't without power, that parts of Philadelphia aren't under 15 ft of water, that Vermont hasn't had catastrophic flooding across almost every large riverbank in the state, nor that 16 (confirmed so far) people haven't died because of the storm. If the media told everyone to ignore evacuation orders and take the storm lightly, total damage and storm casualties may have been much worse. It's impossible to predict where exactly the worse wind damage and flooding will occur, especially given the massive size of what was tropical storm (hurricane) Irene.
The problem with doing this is you're pretty much crying wolf every time you sensationalize an event like this. You can be realistic about the level of damage that a given area is likely to suffer without making it out to be the next world war with 24-hour coverage and nothing but pictures and videos of worst-case scenarios to strike fear into peoples' hearts.
I don't really agree with that. These people aren't used to a hurricane, and as the flooding is showing they likely saved a good amount of lives. One life is worth it right? You would have to be stupid to blow a hurricane off because the last one was weak.
Yet plenty of people will blow it off next time and if the goal is saving lives, in the big picture, you will have failed because of it. This is really no different from the media crying "blizzard of the century" every other winter or droning on and on about the constant risk of getting blown up by a terrorist whenever you're out in public in NYC.
People close businesses, are inconvenienced, lose money, and all for what? Rain, wind and flooding in isolated parts of the city? Let those parts of the city worry about it and give me a realistic report so I know to get on with my life. I found it hilarious how the news was constantly talking about how New Yorkers don't take them or their warnings seriously when all they were doing with their overblown reports was just proving us right for not taking them seriously.
On August 29 2011 02:15 Moochlol wrote: The winds following the ass of this storm, are becoming way more dangerous than I had expected, two huge trees came feet from landing on my house in NE PA. To the people claiming this is nothing but hype, hold your comments to yourself. Trees falling are fucking dangerous regardless of how much sensationalism the media has given this storm.
Yeah I'd ignore those posts. Lot of metropolitan/city folk have extreme tunnel vision of the realities of what's happening outside. I know some people in Manhattan who are whining about it this being 'overrated'. Talk about a total loss of perspective on those idiots - I'd just ignore them.
PS - Pepco, the worst electric company in the nation, is failing again. Hundreds of thousands in DC without power. Not a total surpise, but yeah.
I don't think anyone's saying that there weren't dangers or damage done. We're just saying that the media hype just wasn't justified. The fact that a tree fell a few feet from your house is pretty irrelevant to that.
The hype was justified. Just because NYC didn't experience major damage does not mean that over 4 million Americans aren't without power, that parts of Philadelphia aren't under 15 ft of water, that Vermont hasn't had catastrophic flooding across almost every large riverbank in the state, nor that 16 (confirmed so far) people haven't died because of the storm. If the media told everyone to ignore evacuation orders and take the storm lightly, total damage and storm casualties may have been much worse. It's impossible to predict where exactly the worse wind damage and flooding will occur, especially given the massive size of what was tropical storm (hurricane) Irene.
The problem with doing this is you're pretty much crying wolf every time you sensationalize an event like this. You can be realistic about the level of damage that a given area is likely to suffer without making it out to be the next world war with 24-hour coverage and nothing but pictures and videos of worst-case scenarios to strike fear into peoples' hearts.
I don't really agree with that. These people aren't used to a hurricane, and as the flooding is showing they likely saved a good amount of lives. One life is worth it right? You would have to be stupid to blow a hurricane off because the last one was weak.
Yet plenty of people will blow it off next time and if the goal is saving lives, in the big picture, you will have failed because of it. This is really no different from the media crying "blizzard of the century" every other winter or droning on and on about the constant risk of getting blown up by a terrorist whenever you're out in public in NYC.
People close businesses, are inconvenienced, lose money, and all for what? Rain, wind and flooding in isolated parts of the city? Let those parts of the city worry about it and give me a realistic report so I know to get on with my life. I found it hilarious how the news was constantly talking about how New Yorkers don't take them or their warnings seriously when all they were doing with their overblown reports was just proving us right for not taking them seriously.
I understand what you are trying to say. The truth is that hurricanes are pretty unpredictable. It could have easily became a 2 or 3 and created some serious havoc. After katrina being such a massive failure it's natural the media goes crazy over it.
On August 29 2011 02:15 Moochlol wrote: The winds following the ass of this storm, are becoming way more dangerous than I had expected, two huge trees came feet from landing on my house in NE PA. To the people claiming this is nothing but hype, hold your comments to yourself. Trees falling are fucking dangerous regardless of how much sensationalism the media has given this storm.
Yeah I'd ignore those posts. Lot of metropolitan/city folk have extreme tunnel vision of the realities of what's happening outside. I know some people in Manhattan who are whining about it this being 'overrated'. Talk about a total loss of perspective on those idiots - I'd just ignore them.
PS - Pepco, the worst electric company in the nation, is failing again. Hundreds of thousands in DC without power. Not a total surpise, but yeah.
I don't think anyone's saying that there weren't dangers or damage done. We're just saying that the media hype just wasn't justified. The fact that a tree fell a few feet from your house is pretty irrelevant to that.
The hype was justified. Just because NYC didn't experience major damage does not mean that over 4 million Americans aren't without power, that parts of Philadelphia aren't under 15 ft of water, that Vermont hasn't had catastrophic flooding across almost every large riverbank in the state, nor that 16 (confirmed so far) people haven't died because of the storm. If the media told everyone to ignore evacuation orders and take the storm lightly, total damage and storm casualties may have been much worse. It's impossible to predict where exactly the worse wind damage and flooding will occur, especially given the massive size of what was tropical storm (hurricane) Irene.
The problem with doing this is you're pretty much crying wolf every time you sensationalize an event like this. You can be realistic about the level of damage that a given area is likely to suffer without making it out to be the next world war with 24-hour coverage and nothing but pictures and videos of worst-case scenarios to strike fear into peoples' hearts.
I don't really agree with that. These people aren't used to a hurricane, and as the flooding is showing they likely saved a good amount of lives. One life is worth it right? You would have to be stupid to blow a hurricane off because the last one was weak.
Yet plenty of people will blow it off next time and if the goal is saving lives, in the big picture, you will have failed because of it. This is really no different from the media crying "blizzard of the century" every other winter or droning on and on about the constant risk of getting blown up by a terrorist whenever you're out in public in NYC.
People close businesses, are inconvenienced, lose money, and all for what? Rain, wind and flooding in isolated parts of the city? Let those parts of the city worry about it and give me a realistic report so I know to get on with my life. I found it hilarious how the news was constantly talking about how New Yorkers don't take them or their warnings seriously when all they were doing with their overblown reports was just proving us right for not taking them seriously.
I understand what you are trying to say. The truth is that hurricanes are pretty unpredictable. It could have easily became a 2 or 3 and created some serious havoc. After katrina being such a massive failure it's natural the media goes crazy over it.
True. That's the whole point of history. To learn from your previous mistakes. As ridiculous as we make the warnings out to be. The politicians want to show that they're being safe opposed to being sorry.
On August 29 2011 02:15 Moochlol wrote: The winds following the ass of this storm, are becoming way more dangerous than I had expected, two huge trees came feet from landing on my house in NE PA. To the people claiming this is nothing but hype, hold your comments to yourself. Trees falling are fucking dangerous regardless of how much sensationalism the media has given this storm.
Yeah I'd ignore those posts. Lot of metropolitan/city folk have extreme tunnel vision of the realities of what's happening outside. I know some people in Manhattan who are whining about it this being 'overrated'. Talk about a total loss of perspective on those idiots - I'd just ignore them.
PS - Pepco, the worst electric company in the nation, is failing again. Hundreds of thousands in DC without power. Not a total surpise, but yeah.
I don't think anyone's saying that there weren't dangers or damage done. We're just saying that the media hype just wasn't justified. The fact that a tree fell a few feet from your house is pretty irrelevant to that.
The hype was justified. Just because NYC didn't experience major damage does not mean that over 4 million Americans aren't without power, that parts of Philadelphia aren't under 15 ft of water, that Vermont hasn't had catastrophic flooding across almost every large riverbank in the state, nor that 16 (confirmed so far) people haven't died because of the storm. If the media told everyone to ignore evacuation orders and take the storm lightly, total damage and storm casualties may have been much worse. It's impossible to predict where exactly the worse wind damage and flooding will occur, especially given the massive size of what was tropical storm (hurricane) Irene.
The problem with doing this is you're pretty much crying wolf every time you sensationalize an event like this. You can be realistic about the level of damage that a given area is likely to suffer without making it out to be the next world war with 24-hour coverage and nothing but pictures and videos of worst-case scenarios to strike fear into peoples' hearts.
I don't really agree with that. These people aren't used to a hurricane, and as the flooding is showing they likely saved a good amount of lives. One life is worth it right? You would have to be stupid to blow a hurricane off because the last one was weak.
Yet plenty of people will blow it off next time and if the goal is saving lives, in the big picture, you will have failed because of it. This is really no different from the media crying "blizzard of the century" every other winter or droning on and on about the constant risk of getting blown up by a terrorist whenever you're out in public in NYC.
People close businesses, are inconvenienced, lose money, and all for what? Rain, wind and flooding in isolated parts of the city? Let those parts of the city worry about it and give me a realistic report so I know to get on with my life. I found it hilarious how the news was constantly talking about how New Yorkers don't take them or their warnings seriously when all they were doing with their overblown reports was just proving us right for not taking them seriously.
are you at all familiar with the geography of long island? A six foot storm surge puts the entirety of long beach and fire island underwater. as if the island was never there.
Also, the road to get to my house in vermont has become a river. there use to be a small, SMALL creek on either side, and now those two creeks have met in the middle and the road flows downhill. That being said, the storm was SO overrated. So imagine if it did in fact gain some speed and power on its way up, as a hurricane is apt to do. Boy would the governers' faces have been red if they stayed quiet and their contituents got buried in water.
anyone not evacuating the long beach area is retarded. anyone else not in immediate danger smartened up and stayed in doors. im pretty sure every warning given was heeded and with good purpose.
you can look out your window and see a branch or two on the ground and think "Psh, seriously?"
but then keep in mind that noone was really concerned about your area and take a look at the places that were asked to evacuate and say yeah okay whatever nbd. kind of like taking the small tremor we had up here and saying OMG I WAS HIT WITH A 5.9 EARTHQUAKE WHAT A JOKE
Pretty obvious how this was going to turn out beforehand. The media always overhype big weather events like this, triply so when it involves the 95 corridor.
On August 29 2011 02:15 Moochlol wrote: The winds following the ass of this storm, are becoming way more dangerous than I had expected, two huge trees came feet from landing on my house in NE PA. To the people claiming this is nothing but hype, hold your comments to yourself. Trees falling are fucking dangerous regardless of how much sensationalism the media has given this storm.
Yeah I'd ignore those posts. Lot of metropolitan/city folk have extreme tunnel vision of the realities of what's happening outside. I know some people in Manhattan who are whining about it this being 'overrated'. Talk about a total loss of perspective on those idiots - I'd just ignore them.
PS - Pepco, the worst electric company in the nation, is failing again. Hundreds of thousands in DC without power. Not a total surpise, but yeah.
I don't think anyone's saying that there weren't dangers or damage done. We're just saying that the media hype just wasn't justified. The fact that a tree fell a few feet from your house is pretty irrelevant to that.
The hype was justified. Just because NYC didn't experience major damage does not mean that over 4 million Americans aren't without power, that parts of Philadelphia aren't under 15 ft of water, that Vermont hasn't had catastrophic flooding across almost every large riverbank in the state, nor that 16 (confirmed so far) people haven't died because of the storm. If the media told everyone to ignore evacuation orders and take the storm lightly, total damage and storm casualties may have been much worse. It's impossible to predict where exactly the worse wind damage and flooding will occur, especially given the massive size of what was tropical storm (hurricane) Irene.
The problem with doing this is you're pretty much crying wolf every time you sensationalize an event like this. You can be realistic about the level of damage that a given area is likely to suffer without making it out to be the next world war with 24-hour coverage and nothing but pictures and videos of worst-case scenarios to strike fear into peoples' hearts.
Every time a Category 1 hurricane or a tropical storm with sustained winds over 60 mph threatens NYC or the tristate area, I'm perfectly fine with the media, or myself, "crying wolf" as you put it. Obviously, you can take what the media says with a grain of salt - the media is the media, not the government agencies trying to warn people and prepare for bad conditions. If you're worried about people being 'struck by fear' because of, god forbid, 24 hour news coverage then I think you need to find new things to worry about.
On August 29 2011 10:52 Gene wrote: are you at all familiar with the geography of long island? A six foot storm surge puts the entirety of long beach and fire island underwater. as if the island was never there.
Also, the road to get to my house in vermont has become a river. there use to be a small, SMALL creek on either side, and now those two creeks have met in the middle and the road flows downhill. That being said, the storm was SO overrated. So imagine if it did in fact gain some speed and power on its way up, as a hurricane is apt to do. Boy would the governers' faces have been red if they stayed quiet and their contituents got buried in water.
anyone not evacuating the long beach area is retarded. anyone else not in immediate danger smartened up and stayed in doors. im pretty sure every warning given was heeded and with good purpose.
Yes I am familiar with the geography of Long Island. I'm also familiar with the fact that Long Island is not a part of NYC, which is the city I was talking about.
On August 29 2011 11:16 Xivsa wrote: Every time a Category 1 hurricane or a tropical storm with sustained winds over 60 mph threatens NYC or the tristate area, I'm perfectly fine with the media, or myself, "crying wolf" as you put it. Obviously, you can take what the media says with a grain of salt - the media is the media, not the government agencies trying to warn people and prepare for bad conditions. If you're worried about people being 'struck by fear' because of, god forbid, 24 hour news coverage then I think you need to find new things to worry about.
Honestly, I'm far more irked about mass transit closing down at noon than anything else at this point. That aside, the media "cries wolf" about absolutely everything. If it's not some massive snowstorm that never comes, it's the dangerous heatwave that hospitalized an idiot who stayed out in it too long. Can you guess what happens every single time? NOTHING. And then it's just business as usual the following day. I can understand unpredictability. Hell, I can even understand the need to be cautious. But the dreadfully low percentage of accuracy in their predictions and broadcasted projections does make me wonder.
On August 29 2011 10:52 Gene wrote: are you at all familiar with the geography of long island? A six foot storm surge puts the entirety of long beach and fire island underwater. as if the island was never there.
Also, the road to get to my house in vermont has become a river. there use to be a small, SMALL creek on either side, and now those two creeks have met in the middle and the road flows downhill. That being said, the storm was SO overrated. So imagine if it did in fact gain some speed and power on its way up, as a hurricane is apt to do. Boy would the governers' faces have been red if they stayed quiet and their contituents got buried in water.
anyone not evacuating the long beach area is retarded. anyone else not in immediate danger smartened up and stayed in doors. im pretty sure every warning given was heeded and with good purpose.
Yes I am familiar with the geography of Long Island. I'm also familiar with the fact that Long Island is not a part of NYC, which is the city I was talking about.
JFK airport, queens, and brooklyn are all in NYC and on long island. Even if they weren't that doesnt change anything. You complained about the crazy media, its not like only nyc has tv.
A lot of fallen branches and only a few fallen trees. Those few fallen trees managed to knock out a few key traffic lights. A lot of peoples' curiosity sparked or the 28th is officially the 'take the family for a walk' day. Combine that with the traffic lights, driving became a bitch. But the most important thing of all?
On August 29 2011 10:52 Gene wrote: are you at all familiar with the geography of long island? A six foot storm surge puts the entirety of long beach and fire island underwater. as if the island was never there.
Also, the road to get to my house in vermont has become a river. there use to be a small, SMALL creek on either side, and now those two creeks have met in the middle and the road flows downhill. That being said, the storm was SO overrated. So imagine if it did in fact gain some speed and power on its way up, as a hurricane is apt to do. Boy would the governers' faces have been red if they stayed quiet and their contituents got buried in water.
anyone not evacuating the long beach area is retarded. anyone else not in immediate danger smartened up and stayed in doors. im pretty sure every warning given was heeded and with good purpose.
Yes I am familiar with the geography of Long Island. I'm also familiar with the fact that Long Island is not a part of NYC, which is the city I was talking about.
JFK airport, queens, and brooklyn are all in NYC and on long island. Even if they weren't that doesnt change anything. You complained about the crazy media, its not like only nyc has tv.
While geographically speaking, you're correct, nobody seriously thinks about Queens or Brooklyn when you're talking about Long Island because it's politically separate. Also both Queens and Brooklyn are more elevated and not surrounded by nearly as much water as Nassau and Suffolk.
My complaints were primarily toward local media, although national media certainly had its own fair share of sensationalism going on.
On August 29 2011 11:13 Fleebenworth wrote: Pretty obvious how this was going to turn out beforehand. The media always overhype big weather events like this, triply so when it involves the 95 corridor.
I didn't even lose power.
I live in Miami, hurricane central, 3 feet above sea level. Imagine my view on all of this. While it seems the Northeast is just overall unprepared for anything by nature, the evacuations for a category 1 hurricane and all of the world-is-ending scenarios are quite hilarious.
On August 29 2011 11:13 Fleebenworth wrote: Pretty obvious how this was going to turn out beforehand. The media always overhype big weather events like this, triply so when it involves the 95 corridor.
I didn't even lose power.
I live in Miami, hurricane central, 3 feet above sea level. Imagine my view on all of this. While it seems the Northeast is just overall unprepared for anything by nature, the evacuations for a category 1 hurricane and all of the world-is-ending scenarios are quite hilarious.
Because this is a hurricane e-peen contest. The evacuations are because of flooding not because of the wind.
When the media started making a big deal about this hurricane, I just shrugged it off assuming the news was exaggerating, which they usually do, but now there's a tree on my house, a hole in the attic, and a broken chimney.
:S
I live in Medfield, MA and this kind of stuff never really happens here.
On August 29 2011 12:03 Antares777 wrote: When the media started making a big deal about this hurricane, I just shrugged it off assuming the news was exaggerating, which they usually do, but now there's a tree on my house, a hole in the attic, and a broken chimney.
:S
I live in Medfield, MA and this kind of stuff never really happens here.
So if you had bought into the hype, would it have prevented a tree from falling on your house?
On August 29 2011 12:03 Antares777 wrote: When the media started making a big deal about this hurricane, I just shrugged it off assuming the news was exaggerating, which they usually do, but now there's a tree on my house, a hole in the attic, and a broken chimney.
:S
I live in Medfield, MA and this kind of stuff never really happens here.
So if you had bought into the hype, would it have prevented a tree from falling on your house?
If there had been no hype would his house have been saved?
Well for me, there was close to no damage, a few stray branches. I'm happy it turned out alright, but there have been some fatalities, so my condolences.
Ri shore, lots of wind, little rain, high tide sweeping over the seawall and past a row of houses. Lost power at 6 am, they say it could take 5 days to get it back
It's really not "crying wolf"... look how much damage was done just a couple hours away (most cases less than a hour away)... the truth is the media has no idea how powerful the storm is going to be by the time it gets to each state. So the best bet is to be prepared.
They straight up said the winds arent as bad as Hurricaine Gloria was, but that it was moving slower, so the bigger worry was flooding in areas that are vulnerable.
But you gotta realize, if you were watching Irene on radar, poeple in NY onward only had a storm that was pretty much half as big as everywhere else - the southern "half" below the eye broke apart right as it hit NY. If this didnt happen at that point, and if it didnt get downgraded to tropical storm, think of how much worse things would have been,
I really hope the people who think it was crying wolf get some sense and dont ignore things next time something like this happens.
On August 29 2011 12:03 Antares777 wrote: When the media started making a big deal about this hurricane, I just shrugged it off assuming the news was exaggerating, which they usually do, but now there's a tree on my house, a hole in the attic, and a broken chimney.
:S
I live in Medfield, MA and this kind of stuff never really happens here.
So if you had bought into the hype, would it have prevented a tree from falling on your house?
A lot of people complain about the attention the north east gets for natural disasters that are at first glance minor compared to what other parts of the country have to deal with.
Consider that on the coast between Washington D.C. and Boston in what amounts to about 2% of the land area of the United States, there lives almost 20% of the United States population. The high population and the population density make any threat to the region much more significant.
It is also a region that gets a little bit of everything on top of potentially heavy snow and blizzards in the winter. Yeah the quake last week was small by west coast standards but on the west coast they don't use bricks to construct buildings and the building codes are designed precisely to deal with quakes. The cities are much older, with many buildings designed prior to modern building codes. On top of that they need to deal with with snow and retaining heat. A tall slanted roof on a home probably isn't the best thing to have in a big hurricane though. Yeah the north east gets weaker hurricanes but they don't have as much invested in infrastructure to deal with tidal surge and flooding rivers and the cities are generally more compact with just less place for water to go.
Irene turned out to not be so bad and yet it still cost a fortune in damages and power outages. It doesn't take too many fallen trees and large branches to knock the power out in an entire town. In the tropics where they experience cat 4 and 5 storms they have trees which evolved to deal with wind and can flex extensively without snapping. The trees up in the north east are not like that. They get a lot of wind in the winter when the trees have no leaves and the wind passes right between the branches (and the ground is frozen to anchor the trees further). Irene was a tropical storm and it still managed to knock down some pretty damn big trees in my area in south eastern Massachusetts. <edit> And I missed almost all of mlg today thanks to it :/
So part of me is annoyed with the media hyping the whole thing up just to keep people scared and tuned in to increase their ratings ( it's what the "news" does best after all). On the other hand it is true that the storm was a potentially huge disaster and the coverage was warranted. I would say a strong category 2 or higher hurricane hitting the populated areas of the north east would easily be a bigger story than a category 5 hurricane hitting anywhere else (except a dead hit on a major city ie Katrina) simply because the potential for destruction is so much greater.
^ I agree with the post above this one to a large degree.
Also, I updated the OP as the disaster transitions into a flooding catastrophe for some states. And added this link to a NY Times article about how meteorologists got some of their forecasts wrong (like the part about how NYC would face hurricane-force wind and massive rains) -
On August 29 2011 12:03 Antares777 wrote: When the media started making a big deal about this hurricane, I just shrugged it off assuming the news was exaggerating, which they usually do, but now there's a tree on my house, a hole in the attic, and a broken chimney.
:S
I live in Medfield, MA and this kind of stuff never really happens here.
So if you had bought into the hype, would it have prevented a tree from falling on your house?
kind of missing the point entirely...?
What exactly was the point of that anecdote? Here's what I read:
I didn't believe the hype and now there's a tree on my house.
power was out for little over a day. 36 hours. just came back on within the hour.
nothing bad here, barely rain but good gusts of wind. surrounding towns had trees down, thats about it i suppose.
heading up into mass tho i guess alot more damage was had. Not sure what it is about this town, but we dont get anything. we miss every rain and lightning storm, snow storm, everything. high five ?
So Vermont has been devastated. No covered bridge still stands. I was sitting here looking at pictures and videos as they came in and picking out all of the places that come up. In case anyone saw the video of the car going down the river, I should tell you that it was about 200 feet away from my parents house where I grew up. I have sat down in that river before and while it is strong and deserving of its name (the Roaring Branch), I have never seen it anywhere close to where it was yesterday.
What the hell are they doing with those trucks. Just driving into the water holding their breath? Theres not a snorkel for the engine. That's pretty ridiculous.
On August 30 2011 12:09 muse5187 wrote: What the hell are they doing with those trucks. Just driving into the water holding their breath? Theres not a snorkel for the engine. That's pretty ridiculous.
On August 26 2011 10:48 RusHXceL wrote: MLG is going to get crazy when the hurricane comes
quote me.
dont hurricane areas generally use event halls and convention centers to put displaced peoples? MLG might be shut down by the govt (or just the elements fucking with wires). bad planning from mlg
Bad planning? Like they knew that a hurricane was going to hit EXACTLY there on exactly the weekend that they planned months ago... Seriously?
hurricanes have a season. they could avoid it..
Dude I don't know if you have a magic divining rod that tells you where Hurricanes are going to go but one affecting Raleigh is fairly uncommon.
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