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On March 09 2012 06:30 Silvertine wrote:

Did I ever doubt that? I'm extremely aware of how many people hate or disagree with Moore. That's specifically why I responded to you, because I think that a lot of people just accept that he's a liar without any evidence.

On March 09 2012 05:58 Defacer wrote:
I consider myself a moderate liberal. But I just want to say I think Michael Moore is a horrible, highly hypocritical, manipulative propaganda film maker. He takes cheap, sensationalist shots that repeatedly undermines the legitimate, valid positions of others.

In short, I think he makes other lefties look stupid and pathetic with his antics by association, and is just as bad as Limbaugh.

When Fahrenheit 9/11 came out, it got a standing ovation at the theatre where I saw it. <e and my friend left the theatre in disgust. I told him, "The backlash against this film is going to get Bush re-elected." And I was fucking right.

On March 09 2012 06:44 Focuspants wrote:


So its not only conservatives that are brainwashed! My new conspiracy theory is that Limbaugh and Moore are actually the same person. When getting into the Moore character, this anonymous troll puts on a shitty t shirt and a horrible ungroomed beard, with a flimsy, half broken baseball cap, and by night, sheds this costume, and puts on his red, white and blue button up shirt, wrangler jeans and cowboy boots, and trades his megaphone for a microphone at FOX.

PROVE ME WRONG!

On March 09 2012 06:50 1Eris1 wrote:



Isn't there a Family Guy episode about Moore and Limbaugh being the same person?

On March 09 2012 06:44 churbro wrote:


Just as bad as Limbaugh? Lol.

On March 09 2012 06:54 Silvertine wrote:

People just love to make false equivalencies when it comes to Moore.

On March 09 2012 06:14 Defacer wrote:


But seriously, I remember that summer and the public opinion of Bush was at an all-time low.

Than this inflammatory film came out, and won the Cannes Palm D'Or, at the insistence of Quentin Tarantino to literally 'send a message to America'.

The amount of attention that this film got international really did galvanize the right, and supporters of Bush. And it's how this whole myth of the media being controlled by "Liberal Elite Media" and snobs originated -- and makes it seem credible.

As the GOP primary looks toward next week’s contest in Alabama, home of the harshest anti-immigrant law in the country, the immigration issue is certain to rear its head again. And Mitt Romney and the other candidates have a choice: double-down on anti-immigrant rhetoric, or begin to show a softer, more general election-friendly side.

Alabama’s anti-immigration law, HB 56, is designed to drive undocumented immigrants out of the state. Similar to Arizona’s infamous law, it requires law enforcement to determine the legal status of virtually anyone it deems suspicious during a lawful stop, detention or arrest. The law has additional provisions that, for example, force employers to determine the immigration status of job applicants and prohibit landlords from renting to undocumented immigrants. A federal appeals court blocked a small portion of the Alabama law, including one section that required public schools to determine the immigration status of students. Critics say it has cost the state billions in GDP.

The Alabama primary comes just as the effects of the GOP primary’s immigration rhetoric are becoming clear. On Monday, a poll from Fox News Latino indicated immigration was a key contributor to the Latino community backing off its support for the GOP. The poll showed that Latino voters favor President Obama over the GOP field 6 to 1 — that’s better than Obama did with Latinos in 2008, and means Republicans are doing worse than John McCain did. In head-to-head match-ups with Obama, no Republican candidate got more than 14 percent of the Latino vote.

The issue is particularly prickly for Romney, who’s tried to win conservative bona fides by positioning himself as the furthest-right candidate on immigration. If Romney wins the nomination, Democrats will be ready to confront him with his harsh rhetoric. Romney’s positioning on the far right is something he is “going to regret,” said Sen. Bob Menendez (D-NJ), speaking to reporters on a conference call Thursday. “He is locked into these extreme positions and Republicans have seriously undercut their chances of making any inroads into the Latino vote.”

Among the Romney remarks Democrats are eager to replay: He characterized the popular Dream Act as a “handout” and touts “self-deportation” as the “answer” to the immigration problem. Depending on whether Romney praises Alabama’s even tougher law, Democrats could gather more fodder to use against him.

On March 08 2012 05:10 DoubleReed wrote:
I live in a very liberal part of a liberal state (go Maryland! Yay same-sex marriage) but politics rarely came up. I do remember my history teacher getting really angry at Bush for his pronunciation of Iraq (it's "ee-rock" not "ai-rack") but that's about it. But especially when it came to economics I remember people had fairly mixed views on things.

And no, it's not Democrat or Republican. It never was. There is good and there is bad. There is effective and there is more effective. Things may not be black and white, but real people get fucked over by policies. Conservatives are on the wrong side of social issues, and we have lots of proof to back us up. They have none. But social issues are easy. Economics and foreign policy are absurdly difficult. We can't have case studies and such and there are almost no control groups.

It's not about extremes imo. It's just about idiocy and bad reasoning. Michael Moore is on the left but he's slimey lying jackass. You need to call out your own side sometimes to legitimize your own views.

On March 09 2012 09:54 Eschaton wrote:
If only Bachmann's campaign could rise from the grave to represent the GOP, and The People. She did win the TL poll, after all.

I kid, I kid.

On March 09 2012 10:25 Defacer wrote:


Honestly, I feel bad for Republicans. It's like every Republican with the audacity to run for president is a whackjob or two-faced hypocrite.

On March 09 2012 10:31 1Eris1 wrote:



Nah, all the smart/good ones are just waiting till 2016. Contrary to popular belief, Obama's not doing as bad as they say and well...2016 is going to be a weak year for Dem candidates

On March 09 2012 10:35 LarJarsE wrote:

You should add this to OP
..For the sake of polls. and numbers.

On March 09 2012 18:04 Mordanis wrote:

This is very dependent on whom Obama runs against:
'gainst Romney, maybe
'gainst anyone else, yes
'gainst sane and intelligent (and educated in economics) candidate, nope

Really though, why do we always elect lawyers, when we don't trust them anyways? At least you know that economists are going to serve themselves rationally, whereas lawyers... who knows?

On March 09 2012 18:04 Mordanis wrote:

This is very dependent on whom Obama runs against:
'gainst Romney, maybe
'gainst anyone else, yes
'gainst sane and intelligent (and educated in economics) candidate, nope

Really though, why do we always elect lawyers, when we don't trust them anyways? At least you know that economists are going to serve themselves rationally, whereas lawyers... who knows?

On March 09 2012 18:04 Mordanis wrote:

This is very dependent on whom Obama runs against:
'gainst Romney, maybe
'gainst anyone else, yes
'gainst sane and intelligent (and educated in economics) candidate, nope

Really though, why do we always elect lawyers, when we don't trust them anyways? At least you know that economists are going to serve themselves rationally, whereas lawyers... who knows?