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acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
January 17 2012 02:52 GMT
#5661

They're throwing the questions to the candidates who are known for answering them. Why not throw the drug-war question to Perry, the "what would you do about poverty" question to Paul, and so on?


Economist, grey dude. I've got to see the transcript, but it sounds pretty accurate if the other debates are any indication
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
January 17 2012 02:58 GMT
#5662
On January 17 2012 11:52 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +

They're throwing the questions to the candidates who are known for answering them. Why not throw the drug-war question to Perry, the "what would you do about poverty" question to Paul, and so on?


Economist, grey dude. I've got to see the transcript, but it sounds pretty accurate if the other debates are any indication


I was just going to quote that in here. Thanks for pointing me towards The Economist's live blogging, helps give a bit of perspective on a lot of the candidates policies that I am uninformed on.

I have yet to really hear anything new, so I too agree with R.I.G.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 03:03:33
January 17 2012 02:58 GMT
#5663
You'd think being 2nd place would get him more than 3 questions an hour lol. Oh Fox News =D. Never cease to amaze me.

He also just blew that foreign policy question. Not blew it in that it didn't make sense, but it wasn't eloquent at all and that's what the sheep applaud for.
NtroP
Profile Joined July 2010
United States174 Posts
January 17 2012 02:59 GMT
#5664
Sounds like Fox news wants Gingrich to be the candidate still. Color me surprised when once again he doesn't do well in the actual South Carolina Primary.
turdburgler
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
England6749 Posts
January 17 2012 03:04 GMT
#5665
like i said earlier in the thread people wont support ging because he cant open his mouth without offending someone, so rightly or wrongly moderates wont vote for him, he cannot win an elections

even fox cant change this
durza
Profile Joined August 2009
United States667 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 03:07:30
January 17 2012 03:05 GMT
#5666
God Ron Paul makes so much sense sometimes, I wish his economic policy didn't appear to be so radical.
As I say that he seems to fall apart a little
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
January 17 2012 03:11 GMT
#5667
"I'm just saying we should invoke the golden rule in our foreign policy." (Paul) *Extremely loud, prolonged, booing*

Republicans aren't growing on me, I'll tell you that much.
NtroP
Profile Joined July 2010
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 03:19:12
January 17 2012 03:12 GMT
#5668
His economic policy would simply pull our currency out of the grip of the federal reserve and tie it to something more than hopes and dreams. I've seen the price of FOOD jump about 50%+ in the last 5 years. *edit* Now, I'm not sure if that would have happened with a different economic policy, but this current trend (going on 40 years or so) is nothing worth holding onto for dear life.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 17 2012 03:14 GMT
#5669
Romney invoked the theory of the Roman Empire...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
forgottendreams
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1771 Posts
January 17 2012 03:17 GMT
#5670
On January 17 2012 12:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney invoked the theory of the Roman Empire...


Could you to elaborate on what he said, or a link to the Economist debate transcript thing? Can't find it quite yet.
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
January 17 2012 03:17 GMT
#5671
On January 17 2012 12:12 NtroP wrote:
His economic policy would simply pull our currency out of the grip of the federal reserve and tie it to something more than hopes and dreams. I've seen the price of FOOD jump about 50%+ in the last 5 years.

come on that's impossible the inflation is only 1.5%... lol
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 17 2012 03:19 GMT
#5672
On January 17 2012 12:17 forgottendreams wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 12:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney invoked the theory of the Roman Empire...


Could you to elaborate on what he said, or a link to the Economist debate transcript thing? Can't find it quite yet.


Basically that if one creates an army so strong that nobody can challenge it.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Kiarip
Profile Joined August 2008
United States1835 Posts
January 17 2012 03:22 GMT
#5673
On January 17 2012 11:00 acker wrote:
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On January 17 2012 10:46 forgottendreams wrote:

It was a blow but in reality it was Gorbachev's underestimation of the forces of economic and political liberalization and his mishandling of the reform initiatives were far more important to the disintegration of the USSR than the Afghanistan War and Reagan's arm race.


That makes more sense, thanks. But just where do you think those forces of economic and political liberalization came from? The Soviet Party lost a whole lot legitimacy back home because they were both 1: aggressors and 2: losing. And the war itself cost a lot of money, money wasted on military expenditure that could have been used back home.

It certainly wasn't the only source of dissent or economic trouble, but it was quite large.

Edit: I'm getting conflicting reports on total cost to the Soviet Union.


The reason there was dissent is because Khrushchev stopped killing people. It would have never collapsed the way Stalin was leading it, the reigns were tight, strict, and it kept the people motivated with fear. Khrushchev significantly reduced the amount of political enemies that were killed, or exiled, and although Brezhnev did a bit better, the doom became inevitable at that point.

Then Gorbachev decided to come in and introduce an idea of socialism with a "more human face," and that idea fell flat on its face, because it was basically impossible, as the people could only be kept in line by fear.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 17 2012 03:25 GMT
#5674
Romney said Obama will cut 1 trillion from defense budget yet fails to say that Republicans agreed to the cuts if the subcommittee failed.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 17 2012 03:29 GMT
#5675
On January 17 2012 12:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney said Obama will cut 1 trillion from defense budget yet fails to say that Republicans agreed to the cuts if the subcommittee failed.

Like the republicans really had a choice? No sane person will ever mistake which party supports funding the military and which party is always looking to gut the military.

C'mon, man. I expect better.
NtroP
Profile Joined July 2010
United States174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-17 03:31:05
January 17 2012 03:30 GMT
#5676
On January 17 2012 12:17 Kiarip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 12:12 NtroP wrote:
His economic policy would simply pull our currency out of the grip of the federal reserve and tie it to something more than hopes and dreams. I've seen the price of FOOD jump about 50%+ in the last 5 years.

come on that's impossible the inflation is only 1.5%... lol


Um? I can go to the grocery store and quote some prices to you... I'll let google help me.

Prices on beef: http://www.mongabay.com/images/commodities/charts/beef.html

Chicken: http://www.mongabay.com/commodities/price-charts/price-of-chicken.html

I apologize for using one source, but if anyone else has been buying and cooking their own food in the last 5-10 years, I'm sure they can back me up.

Sorry for going off topic.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 17 2012 03:32 GMT
#5677
On January 17 2012 12:29 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 12:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney said Obama will cut 1 trillion from defense budget yet fails to say that Republicans agreed to the cuts if the subcommittee failed.

Like the republicans really had a choice? No sane person will ever mistake which party supports funding the military and which party is always looking to gut the military.

C'mon, man. I expect better.



Gut the military? The military in this country is massive even with the cuts it would still be the most powerful military in the world. The U.S. military is not in danger of being underfunded but in danged of excessive bloating.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 17 2012 03:36 GMT
#5678
On January 17 2012 12:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 12:29 xDaunt wrote:
On January 17 2012 12:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney said Obama will cut 1 trillion from defense budget yet fails to say that Republicans agreed to the cuts if the subcommittee failed.

Like the republicans really had a choice? No sane person will ever mistake which party supports funding the military and which party is always looking to gut the military.

C'mon, man. I expect better.



Gut the military? The military in this country is massive even with the cuts it would still be the most powerful military in the world. The U.S. military is not in danger of being underfunded but in danged of excessive bloating.

That's a matter of perspective. Only democrats share your view, and it's ridiculous for you or any other liberal to try and sluff off the blame/responsibility for military budget cuts onto republicans. It's your policy, so own it. That's all I ask.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 17 2012 03:39 GMT
#5679
On January 17 2012 12:36 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 12:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 17 2012 12:29 xDaunt wrote:
On January 17 2012 12:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney said Obama will cut 1 trillion from defense budget yet fails to say that Republicans agreed to the cuts if the subcommittee failed.

Like the republicans really had a choice? No sane person will ever mistake which party supports funding the military and which party is always looking to gut the military.

C'mon, man. I expect better.



Gut the military? The military in this country is massive even with the cuts it would still be the most powerful military in the world. The U.S. military is not in danger of being underfunded but in danged of excessive bloating.

That's a matter of perspective. Only democrats share your view, and it's ridiculous for you or any other liberal to try and sluff off the blame/responsibility for military budget cuts onto republicans. It's your policy, so own it. That's all I ask.


If only... The defense budget under Obama is greater than when Bush was President.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11603 Posts
January 17 2012 03:41 GMT
#5680
On January 17 2012 12:36 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2012 12:32 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 17 2012 12:29 xDaunt wrote:
On January 17 2012 12:25 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Romney said Obama will cut 1 trillion from defense budget yet fails to say that Republicans agreed to the cuts if the subcommittee failed.

Like the republicans really had a choice? No sane person will ever mistake which party supports funding the military and which party is always looking to gut the military.

C'mon, man. I expect better.



Gut the military? The military in this country is massive even with the cuts it would still be the most powerful military in the world. The U.S. military is not in danger of being underfunded but in danged of excessive bloating.

That's a matter of perspective. Only democrats share your view, and it's ridiculous for you or any other liberal to try and sluff off the blame/responsibility for military budget cuts onto republicans. It's your policy, so own it. That's all I ask.


Well how much do you need exactly? You already outspend all the defence budgets of the world combined. Who exactly can challenge American preponderance?
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