EPTOn January 17 2012 10:14 radiatoren wrote:
We agree on this. It was mostly to try and let you explain it in another way, so you do not come off as completely insane.
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On January 17 2012 09:14 bOneSeven wrote:
Either I've done a terrible job at expressing myself or you've got a terrible understanding of my post . This is not what you should derive from my post . Actually, It's so weird to read like it seems that I explained stuff about apples and know you explain my I don't like pears ...
Talk about twist and turn ;D Lol dude hopefully you were on eatable when you replied to me :D
On January 17 2012 07:20 radiatoren wrote:
As I read it, this post is extremely disturbing:
1. So you trust in god because he is someone your friend, the preacher likes?
2. Basically you are saying that if facts are not in the agenda to help you understand "a particular view" you do not trust them? So no fact-bullshit, just propaganda for x, where x is something you find reasonable or your preacher finds reasonable?
3. The video shows arguments for your particular view, but there is no real information in it?
On January 17 2012 06:34 bOneSeven wrote:
1. I don't trust "Joe Rogan's" view on politics because he doesn't have one. What I've said is that I trust the guy that a guy I respect likes. His "love" for Ron Paul is not derived from politics but rather smelling that lack of bullshit, at least compared to the other guys.
2. Trust educated people ? What does that even mean ? Trust educated, smart and honest people ... It's probably hard to discern all of these characteristics really so that's why I said I don't really trust "educated" smart people because it's not in their agenda to help me understand a particular view . Or at least I don't believe it is anyone's desire to do so. Especially trusting an academic person seems rather tricky to me because of the evolution of his ideology in a particular environment which I don't like that much. It's a personal thing obviously, it's rather retarded to repeat again that it's merely my perspective and if it doesn't help you, just ignore me.
3. In all fairness tho you can't make strong arguments in 2 minutes so you know ... everything he has said simply .. if it's true ... He said that F = mg without explaining it, so there's nothing for "us Ron Paul supporters" to gain from that video..
On January 17 2012 01:06 HellRoxYa wrote:
How is it an ad hominem attack when he discusses the ideas which he finds savage? I have no idea how you managed to stitch together so much drivel. Furthermore, if Chomsky or educated people's opinion in general doesn't matter to you then why the fuck does Joe Rogans? If you're not smart learn from people who are. If you are smart, educate yourself. Taking Joe Rogans views on politics as your own is as smart as taking a hobos advice on finances. If anything you are making an ad hominem attack on Chomsky, rather than discussing what he actually said.
Absolutely agree, but thankfully the video was about Pauls views and what Chomsky thought about them rather than Chomskys own.
On January 17 2012 00:59 bOneSeven wrote:
I love how the comments are censored. To be more accurate there aren't any because you can't post.
I don't like that guy. Why ? "I think Ron Paul , I would have dinner with that guy but his ideas are savage". Really ? Really ..........? You would have dinner with some1 who has savage ideas ? This is the kind of mentality who stops guys like me from not supporting Ron Paul because everyone who comes to it just bring ad hominem arguments and they have the rationalist reductionist sent, which I dismiss completely.\
I'm probably not the guy to talk to about Ron Paul because I really don't care enough to do all the research about his policies and how they would actually affect things in the country because I'm not an American . But coming with such a video is worse than that "let him die" video.
Plus I don't know who that guy was so he has zero credibility from my side . Yeah , wikipedia won't do any good for me. I don't think there is even a guy for example who I'll trust like that anyways .
For me for example it's ok to know that people like Joe Rogan or Bryan Callen support him ... Yes, the fucking fear factor guy and the guy from The hangover...because they don't take themselves very seriously. Let's talk about real politics ? What the hell is that supposed to mean anyways ? Conservative guys never get along, liberal guys never get along, libertarian people never get along. Literally all ideologies have fights inside them , no1 agreeing on anything and ALL OF THEM having false premises about the nature of the human being. Yeah ... I'll put my money on a rather free society, not a nany state who teaches us we are not responsible for our actions and get bust into our houses at every given time without a warrant if there is a strong enough suspicion .
Oh , initially I didn't come to reply to that but , this is what's up recently , and I was thinking like ... What the hell !? : http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/14/romney-gives-cash-to-struggling-supporter-at-rally/
On January 16 2012 21:40 kwizach wrote:
I thought I'd post this video here, it might interest Ron Paul supporters:
I thought I'd post this video here, it might interest Ron Paul supporters:
I love how the comments are censored. To be more accurate there aren't any because you can't post.
I don't like that guy. Why ? "I think Ron Paul , I would have dinner with that guy but his ideas are savage". Really ? Really ..........? You would have dinner with some1 who has savage ideas ? This is the kind of mentality who stops guys like me from not supporting Ron Paul because everyone who comes to it just bring ad hominem arguments and they have the rationalist reductionist sent, which I dismiss completely.\
I'm probably not the guy to talk to about Ron Paul because I really don't care enough to do all the research about his policies and how they would actually affect things in the country because I'm not an American . But coming with such a video is worse than that "let him die" video.
Plus I don't know who that guy was so he has zero credibility from my side . Yeah , wikipedia won't do any good for me. I don't think there is even a guy for example who I'll trust like that anyways .
For me for example it's ok to know that people like Joe Rogan or Bryan Callen support him ... Yes, the fucking fear factor guy and the guy from The hangover...because they don't take themselves very seriously. Let's talk about real politics ? What the hell is that supposed to mean anyways ? Conservative guys never get along, liberal guys never get along, libertarian people never get along. Literally all ideologies have fights inside them , no1 agreeing on anything and ALL OF THEM having false premises about the nature of the human being. Yeah ... I'll put my money on a rather free society, not a nany state who teaches us we are not responsible for our actions and get bust into our houses at every given time without a warrant if there is a strong enough suspicion .
Oh , initially I didn't come to reply to that but , this is what's up recently , and I was thinking like ... What the hell !? : http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/01/14/romney-gives-cash-to-struggling-supporter-at-rally/
How is it an ad hominem attack when he discusses the ideas which he finds savage? I have no idea how you managed to stitch together so much drivel. Furthermore, if Chomsky or educated people's opinion in general doesn't matter to you then why the fuck does Joe Rogans? If you're not smart learn from people who are. If you are smart, educate yourself. Taking Joe Rogans views on politics as your own is as smart as taking a hobos advice on finances. If anything you are making an ad hominem attack on Chomsky, rather than discussing what he actually said.
On January 17 2012 01:06 xDaunt wrote:
I really can't stand Chomsky. He lives in fantasy land, which hardly provides a sound basis for any type of policy.
On January 17 2012 00:53 HellRoxYa wrote:
I don't usually enjoy Chomsky but he's pretty spot on.
On January 16 2012 21:40 kwizach wrote:
I thought I'd post this video here, it might interest Ron Paul supporters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B0Q109uQ7o
I thought I'd post this video here, it might interest Ron Paul supporters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3B0Q109uQ7o
I don't usually enjoy Chomsky but he's pretty spot on.
I really can't stand Chomsky. He lives in fantasy land, which hardly provides a sound basis for any type of policy.
Absolutely agree, but thankfully the video was about Pauls views and what Chomsky thought about them rather than Chomskys own.
1. I don't trust "Joe Rogan's" view on politics because he doesn't have one. What I've said is that I trust the guy that a guy I respect likes. His "love" for Ron Paul is not derived from politics but rather smelling that lack of bullshit, at least compared to the other guys.
2. Trust educated people ? What does that even mean ? Trust educated, smart and honest people ... It's probably hard to discern all of these characteristics really so that's why I said I don't really trust "educated" smart people because it's not in their agenda to help me understand a particular view . Or at least I don't believe it is anyone's desire to do so. Especially trusting an academic person seems rather tricky to me because of the evolution of his ideology in a particular environment which I don't like that much. It's a personal thing obviously, it's rather retarded to repeat again that it's merely my perspective and if it doesn't help you, just ignore me.
3. In all fairness tho you can't make strong arguments in 2 minutes so you know ... everything he has said simply .. if it's true ... He said that F = mg without explaining it, so there's nothing for "us Ron Paul supporters" to gain from that video..
As I read it, this post is extremely disturbing:
1. So you trust in god because he is someone your friend, the preacher likes?
2. Basically you are saying that if facts are not in the agenda to help you understand "a particular view" you do not trust them? So no fact-bullshit, just propaganda for x, where x is something you find reasonable or your preacher finds reasonable?
3. The video shows arguments for your particular view, but there is no real information in it?
Either I've done a terrible job at expressing myself or you've got a terrible understanding of my post . This is not what you should derive from my post . Actually, It's so weird to read like it seems that I explained stuff about apples and know you explain my I don't like pears ...
Talk about twist and turn ;D Lol dude hopefully you were on eatable when you replied to me :D
We agree on this. It was mostly to try and let you explain it in another way, so you do not come off as completely insane.
I guess I stop understanding everything now ... Then again I'm having massive head aches from walking around with only a shirt and a blouse on a fucking winter snowing day + sleep depravation from making a fuckton of essays for uni ...
I'm not insane in the way that I don't really attach myself to a particular ideology or even a simple idea .... But anyways, if you wanna talk about insane people, most of them are extreemly intelligent and can totally trick you into thinking they are rather smart normal people ... So on a forum debate you could only spot dumb guys, not insane guys :D IMO . Fundamentalists aren't insane imo, they are just dumb
