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Cush
United States646 Posts
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Reyis
287 Posts
well it isnt the USA only and yeah you or current USA government shouldnt be blamed for the American weapons ranging from the good old American colt1911s to newly received German G3s that are being used by those people nowadays. we dont even need to mention how the east have gotten their hands over ak47s and the each cell leaders and closest ring of people has the training from the Soviet officers of военное училище(and American mercs of sandhurst/west point etc) and which is being traditionally thought to the newcomers every passing day. when people do say USA did gave those people power, you better believe it or just read up the history of arms trade and the market outside the USA dating between the world war 2 to this day. you can find the proof you have asked for in there. "manifacturing weapons and aiding third nations to win a war with those weapons is definetly not USA or Soviets fault or a cause for the terror nowadays." sure thing joe... | ||
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Barack Obama
27 Posts
On August 17 2011 10:35 Cush wrote: Rick Perry is going all the way. Texas has created more than 40% of jobs in the past 2 years. With that behind him, nothing can stop him. Of course you jump in here with your opinion as if you've made a groundbreaking statement. Did you even stop to think whether what you wrote would have already been mentioned and comprehensively debated in the previous 20 pages already? But then again, most voters are just as ignorant as you are and don't care about facts and go with soundbites so therefore it is very likely that Perry will win. He pretty much relies on people like you for his votes. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
He's the most moderate candidate with an amazing track record as Governor of Utah. Plus he has has a lot of experience with China (probably will become a major issue in the next couple years) being the U.S. Ambassador. | ||
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
On August 17 2011 10:35 Cush wrote: Rick Perry is going all the way. Texas has created more than 40% of jobs in the past 2 years. With that behind him, nothing can stop him. You should check out the actual unemployment rate and the percentage of adults employed. I believe it is worse than New York. Saying Texas created the most jobs therefor elect Perry is misleading. Texas has heavy population growth; they need more jobs just to keep the employment\population ratio the same. On August 17 2011 10:45 Gamegene wrote: Quite scary how little attention John Huntsman is getting. He's the most moderate candidate with an amazing track record as Governor of Utah. Plus he has has a lot of experience with China (probably will become a major issue in the next couple years) being the U.S. Ambassador. He is waaaaay too moderate for a party throwing their weight behind Bachmann and Perry. | ||
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Senorcuidado
United States700 Posts
On August 17 2011 09:23 Barack Obama wrote: The exact same things Bachmann would do - tax cuts for the rich. Jesus Christ. People like Paul because he's old and feisty, but the economic policies he'd like to see are only a slight variation to people like Bachmann's. Whoa whoa whoa. Let's slow down. Ron Paul is NOT Michele Bachmann and I am offended at the comparison. He doesn't want tax cuts for the rich, he wants lower taxes for everybody and a government that lives within its means. I know that's the party line, but he's the only one that means it and he's the only one that has any credibility. There is a legitimate argument for low taxes and small government, but no other Republican makes that argument. Bachmann thinks that 2+2 will equal 5 if you just try hard enough. Right now, our economic and taxation systems are designed to redistribute the wealth to the rich. That won't change under Bachmann but it will under Ron Paul, the first step being abolishing the FED. Pretty speeches and cosmetic changes to the system won't fix anything. For the record, I oppose the tax cuts for the rich because we do not have a small government and they won't create a small government. At the same time that we cut those taxes we were increasing spending at an incredible pace. That is not sound money and it exacerbates the deficit problem. If we decide that we want a government that takes care of us in so many ways, which is fine, we need to be willing to pay for it. I get the strong feeling that many of these Tea Party folks don't really want the small government they advocate, they just don't want to pay for it. Regardless, the tax cuts for the rich just increase the gap between rich and poor, and they're based on this failed idea of "trickle-down economics". I love tax cuts, I think we all do, but handing them out the way we are doing is not helping the economy and it's not good for most of us, despite the lies we are told to the contrary. Lower and middle class taxes should be slashed if we want to stimulate the economy. Demand will create jobs, not giving free money to the rich. I once again refer you to Warren Buffet's article for a great explanation on why he doesn't need tax cuts. There is also an argument for a real socialist system of government (which Ron would disagree with I assume), where we pay higher taxes and get more services for them, but we aren't doing it right. We aren't getting shit for the taxes we pay, and that is the real problem. Whether you are libertarian or socialist, I think you can agree that our foreign policy is a gigantic problem and until we deal with it we won't have the government that we want at home. Michele Bachmann won't deal with it, Barack Obama won't deal with it, neither will Romney or Perry. Ron Paul must win the Republican nomination so that we can have this conversation about real fundamental change. Big government with high taxes and more services, or small government with low taxes and less services. What we have now is a disaster because we are trying to be both, plus our foreign policy is unsustainable under either model and our politicians are bought. That reminds me, campaign finance reform please...  | ||
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cfoy3
United States129 Posts
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Senorcuidado
United States700 Posts
On August 17 2011 10:46 Romantic wrote: You should check out the actual unemployment rate and the percentage of adults employed. I believe it is worse than New York. Saying Texas created the most jobs therefor elect Perry is misleading. Texas has heavy population growth; they need more jobs just to keep the employment\population ratio the same. He is waaaaay too moderate for a party throwing their weight behind Bachmann and Perry. Yeah that's the tricky thing about statistics, they are freaking liars. I don't know toooo much about Perry's record but I do know that those numbers are pretty misleading because of the other factors that contributed to the job creation, like population increase. I don't have much against Rick Perry yet, other than that stupid "day of prayer" stuff and his sound bytes about religion and its role in general, but he also has a bit of a record of compromise and bi-partisanship in his past so maybe he won't be as bad as Bush. I would be interested to hear some more Texans' opinion of him. I liked John Huntsman but he doesn't really have a chance, he is too moderate for the party. I stand behind my statement that if nothing dramatically changes (read: electing Ron Paul) we are screwed in the long run but choosing between Perry/Romney and Obama doesn't feel very epic. It will be more of the same stuff either way. | ||
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xHassassin
United States270 Posts
As far as I can see she's just another Sarah Palin. Completely uneducated. | ||
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GLLvz
Norway122 Posts
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.Wilsh.
United States133 Posts
http://www.breitbart.tv/nbc-news-sharpton-repeats-black-cloud-deception/ | ||
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cfoy3
United States129 Posts
Nice to see you again from the debt ceiling discussion. I am glad you are a fellow Ron Paul supporter.No more kenysan economics we need to change to Austrian. The ones who predicted the finacial collapse. | ||
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arbitrageur
Australia1202 Posts
On August 17 2011 03:41 Kaitlin wrote: [/QUOTE]So, this is what you were "taught", huh ? Did you apply any critical thinking of your own ? How about: Consider some of the greatest minds and success stories throughout history. Were they "highly educated" by the system, or were they self-educated, such as Abraham Lincoln, Bill Gates, Albert Einstein, etc. I'm not convinced that the most intelligent people are the ones with the PhD's, but the ones with the best ideas. Don't republicans have a lower expected IQ? http://www.sq.4mg.com/stateIQ-income.htm Dno about the scientific validity of that source. This makes sense considering so many of the most popular republicans seem to deny the scientist's account of anthropogenic climate change and evolution. | ||
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On August 17 2011 10:46 Romantic wrote: He is waaaaay too moderate for a party throwing their weight behind Bachmann and Perry. It's quite a sad thing when we rant about how nobody compromises or how "the two party system is a failure blah blah blah" and we give more attention to fringe lunatics on the right. Let's be honest here: Bachmann and Perry are both hot gas given attention for being controversial and outspoken, and rewarded from the Tea Party for it. Reminds me of a certain VP nominee... | ||
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Romantic
United States1844 Posts
On August 17 2011 11:30 arbitrageur wrote: Don't republicans have a lower expected IQ? http://www.sq.4mg.com/stateIQ-income.htm Dno about the scientific validity of that source. This makes sense considering so many of the most popular republicans seem to deny the scientist's account of anthropogenic climate change and evolution. It might just be southern states have large African American populations. I think we need white northern vs white southern IQ and northern black vs southern black IQ. IIRC Republicans tend to be more highly educated than Democrats, so that IQ thing is a little puzzling. Alternatively you could actually use randomly selected R v D and give them IQ tests. Doing it by state is odd. | ||
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
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Eknoid4
United States902 Posts
On August 17 2011 11:34 Romantic wrote: It might just be southern states have large African American populations. I think we need white northern vs white southern IQ and northern black vs southern black IQ. IIRC Republicans tend to be more highly educated than Democrats, so that IQ thing is a little puzzling. Alternatively you could actually use randomly selected R v D and give them IQ tests. Doing it by state is odd. Education -> democrat Wealth -> republican | ||
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On August 16 2011 22:50 SpiffD wrote: Bachmann/Palin You must really want to see the world burn. Edit: With that said, I'm voting Paul. His views correlate the most with mine and with those that withstand the test of sanity. It's the only choice on the table for a libertarian, but a damn good one at that. | ||
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Supamang
United States2298 Posts
On August 17 2011 11:38 stevarius wrote: You must really want to see the world burn. Why so serious? Sike. For real though, I kinda want to see them win. If they fuck up hardcore maybe the crazies will stfu for a week or so. Think of how much we could do with a week! Tho for a serious candidate, I hope for the love of God that Ron Paul wins it. He seems like a geniune guy whos actual beliefs arent insane | ||
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ZeaL.
United States5955 Posts
On August 17 2011 10:35 Cush wrote: Rick Perry is going all the way. Texas has created more than 40% of jobs in the past 2 years. With that behind him, nothing can stop him. Texas still has higher unemployment than a few states like NY and MA, 1 out of 4 Texans doesn't have health insurance, most of the "job creation" is really just population growth. Not saying that you're wrong, just that the 40% of new jobs should be taken with a grain of salt. Not that the average voter is willing to dig deeper on a subject than they are required to. | ||
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