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Leave the animal rights and treatment discussion out of this topic. Thanks. -Nyovne
SigmaoctanusIV
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States3313 Posts
August 12 2011 14:34 GMT
#381
That was actually pretty hard to read, It was really depressing. I got chills reading about their cramped spaces Poor bears they are so cool. T___T RIP
I am Godzilla You are Japan
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 12 2011 14:35 GMT
#382
On August 12 2011 23:32 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 23:30 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:20 mustache wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:15 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:12 Judicator wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.


Because there is a disparity in the treatment of the situation...dog fighting goes on through the US, very little action until shit went down with Vick, farm animals treated inhumanely, nobody says anything until their own personal health is at risk. Don't be selective with your memory.

Like I wonder how the response would be if this happened elsewhere and didn't involve a bear (like a chicken instead).

To be certain, this story is absolutely sickening. But I do think that this "Chinese people are so inhumane" mentality has gotten the better of the entire Western world... you don't see sweeping generalizations about any other country's people when something unfortunate occurs there.

On August 12 2011 23:14 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:10 wussleeQ wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.

Saying that the chinese have little to no regard for human life can easily perceived as being racist.

A little bit, but that's the way it seems to me. China has a looooooooooooong way to go before I respect them as a country concerning both human and animal rights. Not everyone in China is like that I'm sure, but they have such a grouped mentality that it seems like the majority don't care. Otherwise, there would be protesting.

There is. All over the internet.


actually you always see sweeping generalizations about countries when something occurs there. Are you new to the web? or global news in general?

Really now. Did we call out Americans in general as inhumane for the whole dogfighting incident? I think not.

But dog fighting is illegal and torturing bears is apparently not, so how are you gonna compare the 2?

How does legality change how inhumane an action is?
:)
Nesquik
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom600 Posts
August 12 2011 14:36 GMT
#383
Depressing, so much bad news at the moment and reading this is a real shock. Disgusting to say the least at what they made the animals do.
Oh IMMvp won agian but EGHuK getting Ro8 is a way bigger deal - Gootecks
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 12 2011 14:38 GMT
#384
On August 12 2011 23:35 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 23:32 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:30 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:20 mustache wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:15 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:12 Judicator wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.


Because there is a disparity in the treatment of the situation...dog fighting goes on through the US, very little action until shit went down with Vick, farm animals treated inhumanely, nobody says anything until their own personal health is at risk. Don't be selective with your memory.

Like I wonder how the response would be if this happened elsewhere and didn't involve a bear (like a chicken instead).

To be certain, this story is absolutely sickening. But I do think that this "Chinese people are so inhumane" mentality has gotten the better of the entire Western world... you don't see sweeping generalizations about any other country's people when something unfortunate occurs there.

On August 12 2011 23:14 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:10 wussleeQ wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.

Saying that the chinese have little to no regard for human life can easily perceived as being racist.

A little bit, but that's the way it seems to me. China has a looooooooooooong way to go before I respect them as a country concerning both human and animal rights. Not everyone in China is like that I'm sure, but they have such a grouped mentality that it seems like the majority don't care. Otherwise, there would be protesting.

There is. All over the internet.


actually you always see sweeping generalizations about countries when something occurs there. Are you new to the web? or global news in general?

Really now. Did we call out Americans in general as inhumane for the whole dogfighting incident? I think not.

But dog fighting is illegal and torturing bears is apparently not, so how are you gonna compare the 2?

How does legality change how inhumane an action is?

It means it's not condoned by the majority and it's a criminal action that can then be punished... getting at least some kind of justice and stop the people who do it.

The action itself is just as inhumane of course.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
Tarot
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada440 Posts
August 12 2011 14:39 GMT
#385
On August 12 2011 23:26 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 23:21 wussleeQ wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:14 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:10 wussleeQ wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.

Saying that the chinese have little to no regard for human life can easily perceived as being racist.

A little bit, but that's the way it seems to me. China has a looooooooooooong way to go before I respect them as a country concerning both human and animal rights. Not everyone in China is like that I'm sure, but they have such a grouped mentality that it seems like the majority don't care. Otherwise, there would be protesting.

I agree that they do have a long ways to go in human and animal rights but I was quoting Technique's post because of this earlier post

On August 12 2011 21:23 Technique wrote:
Chinese have no respect for animals at all, that's pretty much a fact... hell they hardly have any respect for human life.


Which I, personally think is a very racist thing to say by generalizing my race as heartless.



On August 12 2011 23:19 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:10 wussleeQ wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.

Saying that the "chinese" have little to no regard for human life can easily perceived as being racist. that seems to be something that you're overlooking.

Well if it's true, it's true... can find many examples as well.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=9a5_1273298423

So according to your logic, I'm a babykilling, bear bile collecting murderer?

Edit: I'm done getting trolled.

I don't know you and i don't think every1 is like this, but i do think people in China do not speak up for what they believe is not right... hence why many of the animal testing is drawn to China... hardly any1 is protesting against it over there... and if people do protest it's shut down and won't get in the news.


I think you're overestimating China's level of development. Animal cruelty is the least of the issues of an average Chinese citizen.
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
August 12 2011 14:40 GMT
#386
On August 12 2011 23:35 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 23:32 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:30 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:20 mustache wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:15 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:12 Judicator wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.


Because there is a disparity in the treatment of the situation...dog fighting goes on through the US, very little action until shit went down with Vick, farm animals treated inhumanely, nobody says anything until their own personal health is at risk. Don't be selective with your memory.

Like I wonder how the response would be if this happened elsewhere and didn't involve a bear (like a chicken instead).

To be certain, this story is absolutely sickening. But I do think that this "Chinese people are so inhumane" mentality has gotten the better of the entire Western world... you don't see sweeping generalizations about any other country's people when something unfortunate occurs there.

On August 12 2011 23:14 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:10 wussleeQ wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.

Saying that the chinese have little to no regard for human life can easily perceived as being racist.

A little bit, but that's the way it seems to me. China has a looooooooooooong way to go before I respect them as a country concerning both human and animal rights. Not everyone in China is like that I'm sure, but they have such a grouped mentality that it seems like the majority don't care. Otherwise, there would be protesting.

There is. All over the internet.


actually you always see sweeping generalizations about countries when something occurs there. Are you new to the web? or global news in general?

Really now. Did we call out Americans in general as inhumane for the whole dogfighting incident? I think not.

But dog fighting is illegal and torturing bears is apparently not, so how are you gonna compare the 2?

How does legality change how inhumane an action is?


Because it shows a country supports the inhumane action rather than condemning it. That makes a world of difference in how the people of said country views the action. They are encouraged to do stuff like this.
Hark!
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10196 Posts
August 12 2011 14:43 GMT
#387
damn this is saddening... makes me want to cry... such cruelty.
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SurroundSound
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
106 Posts
August 12 2011 14:44 GMT
#388
i like the question the OP asks...makes me think about how similar our brains are to animals and how we really are just animals..

on another note

i love bears
Its not John Hancock...Its Herby Hancock
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-12 14:51:25
August 12 2011 14:45 GMT
#389
On August 12 2011 23:38 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 23:35 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:32 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:30 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:20 mustache wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:15 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:12 Judicator wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.


Because there is a disparity in the treatment of the situation...dog fighting goes on through the US, very little action until shit went down with Vick, farm animals treated inhumanely, nobody says anything until their own personal health is at risk. Don't be selective with your memory.

Like I wonder how the response would be if this happened elsewhere and didn't involve a bear (like a chicken instead).

To be certain, this story is absolutely sickening. But I do think that this "Chinese people are so inhumane" mentality has gotten the better of the entire Western world... you don't see sweeping generalizations about any other country's people when something unfortunate occurs there.

On August 12 2011 23:14 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:10 wussleeQ wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.

Saying that the chinese have little to no regard for human life can easily perceived as being racist.

A little bit, but that's the way it seems to me. China has a looooooooooooong way to go before I respect them as a country concerning both human and animal rights. Not everyone in China is like that I'm sure, but they have such a grouped mentality that it seems like the majority don't care. Otherwise, there would be protesting.

There is. All over the internet.


actually you always see sweeping generalizations about countries when something occurs there. Are you new to the web? or global news in general?

Really now. Did we call out Americans in general as inhumane for the whole dogfighting incident? I think not.

But dog fighting is illegal and torturing bears is apparently not, so how are you gonna compare the 2?

How does legality change how inhumane an action is?

It means it's not condoned by the majority and it's a criminal action that can then be punished... getting at least some kind of justice and stop the people who do it.

The action itself is just as inhumane of course.

So you are assuming that because bear torture is not illegal in China, then most Chinese people must be okay with it?


On August 12 2011 23:40 Deadlyhazard wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 23:35 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:32 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:30 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:20 mustache wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:15 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:12 Judicator wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.


Because there is a disparity in the treatment of the situation...dog fighting goes on through the US, very little action until shit went down with Vick, farm animals treated inhumanely, nobody says anything until their own personal health is at risk. Don't be selective with your memory.

Like I wonder how the response would be if this happened elsewhere and didn't involve a bear (like a chicken instead).

To be certain, this story is absolutely sickening. But I do think that this "Chinese people are so inhumane" mentality has gotten the better of the entire Western world... you don't see sweeping generalizations about any other country's people when something unfortunate occurs there.

On August 12 2011 23:14 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:10 wussleeQ wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.

Saying that the chinese have little to no regard for human life can easily perceived as being racist.

A little bit, but that's the way it seems to me. China has a looooooooooooong way to go before I respect them as a country concerning both human and animal rights. Not everyone in China is like that I'm sure, but they have such a grouped mentality that it seems like the majority don't care. Otherwise, there would be protesting.

There is. All over the internet.


actually you always see sweeping generalizations about countries when something occurs there. Are you new to the web? or global news in general?

Really now. Did we call out Americans in general as inhumane for the whole dogfighting incident? I think not.

But dog fighting is illegal and torturing bears is apparently not, so how are you gonna compare the 2?

How does legality change how inhumane an action is?


Because it shows a country supports the inhumane action rather than condemning it. That makes a world of difference in how the people of said country views the action. They are encouraged to do stuff like this.

It's not they are "encouraged to do stuff like this," but rather that this is their only method of making money. I'm not saying that I don't wish there were laws against animal rights violations, but you have to realize that if the Chinese government were to impose laws against animal torture then tens of millions of people would instantly lose their livelihood.

EVERYBODY on the web (as in, Chinese sites) condemns inhumane animal treatment, but there's a reason (albeit a pretty "meh" one) that there aren't many animal rights laws.
:)
Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
August 12 2011 14:46 GMT
#390
On August 12 2011 23:45 synapse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 23:38 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:35 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:32 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:30 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:20 mustache wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:15 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:12 Judicator wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 22:59 Deadlyhazard wrote:
It's always stories like this that come from China. Do they not have animal cruelty laws there? I'm guessing not.

Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.


Because there is a disparity in the treatment of the situation...dog fighting goes on through the US, very little action until shit went down with Vick, farm animals treated inhumanely, nobody says anything until their own personal health is at risk. Don't be selective with your memory.

Like I wonder how the response would be if this happened elsewhere and didn't involve a bear (like a chicken instead).

To be certain, this story is absolutely sickening. But I do think that this "Chinese people are so inhumane" mentality has gotten the better of the entire Western world... you don't see sweeping generalizations about any other country's people when something unfortunate occurs there.

On August 12 2011 23:14 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:10 wussleeQ wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
[quote]
Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.

Saying that the chinese have little to no regard for human life can easily perceived as being racist.

A little bit, but that's the way it seems to me. China has a looooooooooooong way to go before I respect them as a country concerning both human and animal rights. Not everyone in China is like that I'm sure, but they have such a grouped mentality that it seems like the majority don't care. Otherwise, there would be protesting.

There is. All over the internet.


actually you always see sweeping generalizations about countries when something occurs there. Are you new to the web? or global news in general?

Really now. Did we call out Americans in general as inhumane for the whole dogfighting incident? I think not.

But dog fighting is illegal and torturing bears is apparently not, so how are you gonna compare the 2?

How does legality change how inhumane an action is?

It means it's not condoned by the majority and it's a criminal action that can then be punished... getting at least some kind of justice and stop the people who do it.

The action itself is just as inhumane of course.

So you are assuming that because bear torture is not illegal in China, then most Chinese people must be okay with it?

Well feel free to link me to all the protests there have been in China against animal cruelty?

I'm not saying every1 is ''okay'' with it, i'm saying no1 seems to do anything about it.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 12 2011 14:49 GMT
#391
Drop the cruelty talks fellas.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Olsson
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden931 Posts
August 12 2011 14:50 GMT
#392
Fucking retarded trolls coming in:

"Hurp-duurr well KFC chickens are treated like this and nothing is written."
"Dog fighting is illegal but this is crueler so we cant compare the 2."
Naniwa <3
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
August 12 2011 14:57 GMT
#393
On August 12 2011 23:46 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 23:45 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:38 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:35 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:32 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:30 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:20 mustache wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:15 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:12 Judicator wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
[quote]
Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.


Because there is a disparity in the treatment of the situation...dog fighting goes on through the US, very little action until shit went down with Vick, farm animals treated inhumanely, nobody says anything until their own personal health is at risk. Don't be selective with your memory.

Like I wonder how the response would be if this happened elsewhere and didn't involve a bear (like a chicken instead).

To be certain, this story is absolutely sickening. But I do think that this "Chinese people are so inhumane" mentality has gotten the better of the entire Western world... you don't see sweeping generalizations about any other country's people when something unfortunate occurs there.

On August 12 2011 23:14 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:10 wussleeQ wrote:
[quote]
Saying that the chinese have little to no regard for human life can easily perceived as being racist.

A little bit, but that's the way it seems to me. China has a looooooooooooong way to go before I respect them as a country concerning both human and animal rights. Not everyone in China is like that I'm sure, but they have such a grouped mentality that it seems like the majority don't care. Otherwise, there would be protesting.

There is. All over the internet.


actually you always see sweeping generalizations about countries when something occurs there. Are you new to the web? or global news in general?

Really now. Did we call out Americans in general as inhumane for the whole dogfighting incident? I think not.

But dog fighting is illegal and torturing bears is apparently not, so how are you gonna compare the 2?

How does legality change how inhumane an action is?

It means it's not condoned by the majority and it's a criminal action that can then be punished... getting at least some kind of justice and stop the people who do it.

The action itself is just as inhumane of course.

So you are assuming that because bear torture is not illegal in China, then most Chinese people must be okay with it?

Well feel free to link me to all the protests there have been in China against animal cruelty?

I'm not saying every1 is ''okay'' with it, i'm saying no1 seems to do anything about it.

see my response to deadlyhazard; most of these protests are on big chinese news forums

also, sorry Nyovne, i'll leave this topic forever ^^
:)
Ickalanda
Profile Joined November 2010
United States50 Posts
August 12 2011 14:57 GMT
#394
Mammals are all very caring and have strong emotions for one another. That is why we are able to have animals like dogs live with us unrestrained, while other types of animals have to be controlled in order to be kept as pets. I believe these actions from the bear because it is easily what a person may do in a similar situation.
By the numbers boys!
Techno
Profile Joined June 2010
1900 Posts
August 12 2011 14:58 GMT
#395
Wow
Hell, its awesome to LOSE to nukes!
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
August 12 2011 14:59 GMT
#396
On August 12 2011 23:50 Olsson wrote:
Fucking retarded trolls coming in:

"Hurp-duurr well KFC chickens are treated like this and nothing is written."
"Dog fighting is illegal but this is crueler so we cant compare the 2."


Im with you. Cant stand these people.
Judicator
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States7270 Posts
August 12 2011 15:01 GMT
#397
On August 12 2011 23:46 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2011 23:45 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:38 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:35 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:32 Technique wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:30 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:20 mustache wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:15 synapse wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:12 Judicator wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:07 Technique wrote:
[quote]
Very little rules yes and also very little protesters against stuff like animal testing, hence why animal testing is kinda drawn to China.

But of course if you make a comment about it, you are perceived racist, so funny.


Because there is a disparity in the treatment of the situation...dog fighting goes on through the US, very little action until shit went down with Vick, farm animals treated inhumanely, nobody says anything until their own personal health is at risk. Don't be selective with your memory.

Like I wonder how the response would be if this happened elsewhere and didn't involve a bear (like a chicken instead).

To be certain, this story is absolutely sickening. But I do think that this "Chinese people are so inhumane" mentality has gotten the better of the entire Western world... you don't see sweeping generalizations about any other country's people when something unfortunate occurs there.

On August 12 2011 23:14 Deadlyhazard wrote:
On August 12 2011 23:10 wussleeQ wrote:
[quote]
Saying that the chinese have little to no regard for human life can easily perceived as being racist.

A little bit, but that's the way it seems to me. China has a looooooooooooong way to go before I respect them as a country concerning both human and animal rights. Not everyone in China is like that I'm sure, but they have such a grouped mentality that it seems like the majority don't care. Otherwise, there would be protesting.

There is. All over the internet.


actually you always see sweeping generalizations about countries when something occurs there. Are you new to the web? or global news in general?

Really now. Did we call out Americans in general as inhumane for the whole dogfighting incident? I think not.

But dog fighting is illegal and torturing bears is apparently not, so how are you gonna compare the 2?

How does legality change how inhumane an action is?

It means it's not condoned by the majority and it's a criminal action that can then be punished... getting at least some kind of justice and stop the people who do it.

The action itself is just as inhumane of course.

So you are assuming that because bear torture is not illegal in China, then most Chinese people must be okay with it?

Well feel free to link me to all the protests there have been in China against animal cruelty?

I'm not saying every1 is ''okay'' with it, i'm saying no1 seems to do anything about it.


There is a fundamental difference between cultures here. Chinese people like handling problems like this internally, for better or for worse. They don't want to flaunt it for the whole world to see and discuss. It's just the way they like to handle their problems. You can say it's good or bad one way or another, but it's just how it is. Just because you don't hear about it or read about it doesn't mean the population does not care.

Very different than how Western societies deal with their problems of a similar nature.
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Profile Joined June 2011
Armenia52 Posts
August 12 2011 15:07 GMT
#398
What's infinitely more disgusting is the fact that whenever something like this happens liberals never miss an opportunity to attempt to send people on guilt trips about eating meat and to bash fast food corporations. Even though almost all of them couldn't care less about things like meat consumption or animal cruelty and only pretend to do so in an attempt to make themselves look superior to others, which is their main and only ethos, constant inflation or the ego with complete disregard for things like common sense or objective facts.

I'll just ignore the fact that complaints about "western" animal cruelty most of the times quickly boil down to bashing fast food franchises exclusively as if they were the first, last and only people ever kill something for food. I won't go too much into why vegetarianism is highly impractical at best and highly retarded at worst. In a nutshell, all organisms, to some degree, feel. Feel free to watch the plethora of documentaries explaining how plants have a pseudo nervous systems and react when being damaged by releasing chemicals and all that stuff. If your goal is attaining food without making anything suffer and if you're eating anything other then soil, then you're either a moron or a hypocrite.

People aren't mad because "bears are cute", people are mad because this is a completely nonsensical thing to do. Stuff like tiger balls and snake blood is entirely bollocks, the only reason why people have the illusion that it works is that the vendors often times secretly sprinkle the respective organ with real medicine so that it has the desired effect when ingested. The only thing they're doing is contributing to the extinction of already endangered species, something that will contribute to the degeneration of the ecosystem, which is something that will eventually bite us in the ass in the long run.

But I suppose that this, and countless other acts of savagery that "developing" nations commit, are "part of their culture" and therefor should be permitted with extreme prejudice. I dread the day when anything short of not letting a non white person come to your house and fuck your sister will be considered bigotry.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
August 12 2011 15:09 GMT
#399
On August 13 2011 00:07 blahblahblahwhatever wrote:
What's infinitely more disgusting is the fact that whenever something like this happens liberals never miss an opportunity to attempt to send people on guilt trips about eating meat and to bash fast food corporations. Even though almost all of them couldn't care less about things like meat consumption or animal cruelty and only pretend to do so in an attempt to make themselves look superior to others, which is their main and only ethos, constant inflation or the ego with complete disregard for things like common sense or objective facts.

I'll just ignore the fact that complaints about "western" animal cruelty most of the times quickly boil down to bashing fast food franchises exclusively as if they were the first, last and only people ever kill something for food. I won't go too much into why vegetarianism is highly impractical at best and highly retarded at worst. In a nutshell, all organisms, to some degree, feel. Feel free to watch the plethora of documentaries explaining how plants have a pseudo nervous systems and react when being damaged by releasing chemicals and all that stuff. If your goal is attaining food without making anything suffer and if you're eating anything other then soil, then you're either a moron or a hypocrite.

People aren't mad because "bears are cute", people are mad because this is a completely nonsensical thing to do. Stuff like tiger balls and snake blood is entirely bollocks, the only reason why people have the illusion that it works is that the vendors often times secretly sprinkle the respective organ with real medicine so that it has the desired effect when ingested. The only thing they're doing is contributing to the extinction of already endangered species, something that will contribute to the degeneration of the ecosystem, which is something that will eventually bite us in the ass in the long run.

But I suppose that this, and countless other acts of savagery that "developing" nations commit, are "part of their culture" and therefor should be permitted with extreme prejudice. I dread the day when anything short of not letting a non white person come to your house and fuck your sister will be considered bigotry.


Dude, stop talking please. Don't you see the huge note on top of the thread? Just drop the cruelty discussion.
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Crigget
Profile Joined July 2011
Denmark38 Posts
August 12 2011 15:10 GMT
#400
Inb4 planet of the bears.

jk, this is tragic indeed =(
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